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I Have Been Taking Hydrocodone 10 And My Doctor Just Changed Me To Acetaminophen Codeine 3 (Page 5)
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Cynthia Says:
I have been taking Hydrocodone 10 since March for RSD the doctor changed me this week to Acetaminophen/cod3. The doctor said that the law made it where he can not give the hydrocodone any more. I want to know if they are the same? I was told they are the same. I'm scared to take it because I have sleep apnea and a real sensitivity to codone. I get breathing problems and rashes. Not sure what to do at this point. I can not take most opioid drugs.
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In order for Schedule II rx to be done electronically , the Dr and pharmacy must have approved software and state law must allow it. It is legal for a Dr to write 3- 30 day rxs for a Schedule II Med and give the patient all 3 rxs at that visit and the patient not have to call or return to the office for 90 days.
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
Let me rephrase your doctor can write cll script for 1 mounth and if deemed nessasary the patient can call in for the prescription at witch time the doctor can electronicly write the script but the paitaint has to physically see doctor every 3 mounths so has to see doctor 1 time physically then can call in next 2 prescriptions and then has to see doctor again physically but yes they vary rarely do this know ecsept in the va hospitals witch i know is vary commom becouse of over crowding and becouse i work with alot of veterns
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
And the patient never said she was doubling up on her meds she simply asked if they were equivalent which they're not what the doctor is doing is probably just being safe. being she's allergic to codien but there's no reason to lie about doses just tell the patient the truth iv had doctors tell me 90mg of oxycodone is equal to 90mg of morphine tell me in what way is that right of course i knew that wasn't tru and that i was gona have massive withdrawal syndrome. So i just started taking them rectaly increasing bioavalibility and it got me tru thank god but stuff like that lying about equivalent doses and cuting doses by 50% is basically forcing the patient into a bad position im sure you know people that this has happened to and they end up getting opiates off the streets it happened to my friend at the va hospital here in Albuquerque dropped his dose from 180mg ms contin a day and 90mg of oxicodone to half he went into withdrawal and sourced some opiates bam od dead, happens all the time. Have a backup plan people; save up as many backup meds as you can and save them to ween yourself down if something happens.
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
Dude your basically saying the same thing i did need to see doctor every mouth for new prescription for controled 2 substances altho your doctor can whrite scrips electronicly in certain cases for up to 3 mounths without having to see doctor but by just calling the doctor and he or she will electronicly write the prescription and the 3 mounths includes when you physicly see the doctor any way at very least its every 3 mounths alot of va hospitals do it this way becouse of over crowding and for peaple that live far from doctor
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BL Says:
Federal Law states a Dr can write 3-30 day rxs for a Schedule II. You must see a Dr at least once every 90 days for Schedule II. But the Dr can require you to come in more often.
You need to look up the actual federal laws before you post about them. They are in the Code Of Federal Regulations and also at the death website.
The Dr said 30 mg Codiene was equal to 10 mg hydrocodone, which is not true. But he didn't tell the patient to take enough codiene to equal the hydrocodone. The patient did that on their own.
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
Lieing about opioid paikiller dosseges is also potentially hazardous a doctor telling you 30mg of codiene is equal to 10mg hydrocodone is wrong and could potentially put the paitaint in the way of harm
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
Also a scheduled 2 drug requirs a doctor visit every mounth or at can be done electronicly but you only can get script for 1 mounth not 3 mounths
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BL Says:
It is not illegal for a Dr to lie to a patient. A Dr being obligated to release medical records under federal law has nothing to do with lying to a patient. And that is what the disclosure of health information means.
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
Reserch befor you post its 100 % illeagle in this day of age to lie to a paitaint now good luck proving that specialy for lieing about what pain meds he can give
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
Aside from the ethical mandate of truth telling in the modern age of medicine, physicians in most states are also legally obligated to disclose all relevant health information to patients. At least one exception, however, exists. Earlier this year, the Oklahoma legislature passed a law that prevents women who give birth to a disabled child from suing a doctor who misled them or outright lied about the health of their baby while they were pregnant — including cases where the fetus had a fatal anomaly that would not allow it to live outside the womb. Bill sponsors say the law is designed to prevent litigation by women who wish, later on, that their doctor had counseled them to abort. But opponents say it protects physicians who mislead pregnant women on purpose, to prevent them from having an abortion. - See more at: physicianspractice.com/difficult-patients/it-ever-ok-lie-patients
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BL Says:
Smith, hydrocodone combination meds became a Schedule II Oct 6, 2014. They can no longer be called in and you can't get refills. You also have to see your Dr at least once every 90 days. Any Dr can write rxs for Schedule Ii meds. There are no laws saying only certain Dr can write Schedule II rxs, although many drs tell their patientss there is
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Smith Says:
I had no idea that they made hydrocodone a schedule 2 drug. If that is the only drug that does work for you & the codeine gives you a bad affect in any way, like me- I can only take 1 pain med. - I go to a pain management dr. To get my meds . I thought that all people on controlled medicines - that is 1-4 of 2 -4 scheduled meds have to go to a pain mgt. Dr. By law now or certain Dr.s that signed up to do that kind of medication. You do have to go to mine every month & After 9 months - I go every other month. I have to take a urine test every 4 months to be sure I am taking them. Medicaid even pays for lab work. I went through too many side affects & bad drugs to finally find this one. Be sure you use the same generic!!!
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Smith Says:
I am also allergic or have bad side affects to opiates .Almost all of them. In no way shape or form are codeine & hydrocodone the exact same drug. They are both opiates, that are related to the opium plant & they are both used for pain. They are not the same drug by a different name. Hydrocodone was much stronger for me & unbearable on my stomach & the constipation was like no other. Codeine # 3 is a very tried & true old drug that has been around forever. When they took darvocet off the market, Codeine 3 was the 1st one I tried. It is known for making you itchy but that sometimes goes away after you have taken it for a few weeks. For me it is not as strong as 10mg Hydrocodone. Codeine 3 also bothered my stomach. If the itching gets worse or unbearable & your breathing is affected at all, you should quit right away. That is way too severe of an allergic reaction. If it agree's with you but does not feel strong enough, it does come in codeine # 4. codeine # 3 & 4 both have Tylenol mixed in. That is usually the APAP part on your bottle. I have never heard of a rule like that because one is just as addictive as another. It may be your dr.s own personal preference? If the codeine has any bad side effects, there are many other medicines for pain but never take a drug called neurontin or Lyrica. A lot of Dr. are giving those for pain because they are not controlled. Neurontin or the generic name Gabapentin were originally invented for epilepsy. I have to say those were my worst reactions of trying so many. If you are totally out of luck, your Dr. May say forget it but you could try 5/325 Percocet ? It is not 10 mg. like the hydro. It's only 5 mg. oxycodone & 325 Tylenol - your Hydro does come in 5 mg. w/ Tylenol which makes it a bit stronger mixed w/ a little Tylenol for some people. I hope I helped more than I confused you. Feel free to write me back.
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BL Says:
It is not.illegal or malpractice for a Dr to.lie to a patient. I.don't know where you got your info but it is not correct. If you have the medical background you say you have you would know that
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Maxundergroundchem Says:
No they're not. It takes 60mg of codiene to equal a 10mg dose of hydrocodone. You're essentially taking half of what you were. there are bunch of liars, my doctors lie to me 24/7. Only if they new i have degrees in the pharmaceutical feild and 2 years into bachelor's for chemistry. I sit there and listen to that bulls*** coming out of there mouths and dont say nothing, but its just funny to me to listen and watch a doctor who took an oath lie to there patients about what they're doing. It is malpractice and illegal. they're sellouts. they dont wana risk loosing their jobs. people need to stand up. i left the medical profession due to the very things that are happening and anybody who says its not the doctors falt it is. they took an oath. Same thing with dea. their gonna get shut down due to a 0 out of a 100 score in 2004. Greed over and over and over. Dea has no business in medicine. Leave that up to the people who go to school for that.
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Derek Says:
I totally agree T3 is very weak compared to vicodin or percocet hydrocodone/oxycodone generic names but personally T3 doea not help with pain gives me horrible headaches the law has changed where any narcotic besides T3 can b called n for refills all have to be new scropts everytime like percocet has always been that way you never can have refills on it past or present hope this helps.
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BL Says:
Hydrocodone is an opiate. Tylenol #3 has 30 mg Codiene and 325 mg Tylenol. Tylenol # 3 is not as strong as hydrocodone. Your dr can still write rxs for hydrocodone if he is writting you a rx for Tylenol #3. But, a lot of drs are switching their patients from hydrocodone to tylenol #3 because hydrocodone combination meds became a Schedule II med Monday. Also there is Tylenol #4. Which is Codiene 60 mg and Tylenol 325 mg.
Schedule II meds can't be called in or refilled. You must see your dr at least every 90 day. You need a new rx every time you get it filled. A dr can write you 3-30 days rxs, but most drs aren't choosing to do this.
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