How Long After Taking Kratom Can You Take Suboxone (Page 2)
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Hi I have been on suboxone for four weeks, before that I was on methadone for five years. I decided to try kratom to stop the suboxone but it isn't really doing much and I feel really lethargic and headaches. I took about 4-5gram of kratom at 8am, it's now 1:40pm"..I want to take some suboxone, will I get sick? Precipitated withdrawals? I've seen some people say they take suboxone after kratom and are fine, but, there isn't much out there on the topic. I just don't wanna get sick for I have a three ur old boy and Christmas is in two days

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

The nalaxone is simply put there so you don't abuse the suboxone, otherwise it doesn't do anything, it's inactive. If you take suboxone or subutex too early after taking other opioids you will go into withdrawals early with or without the naloxone. I know this from personal experience. However, I'm in the same situation with the kratom, I don't know if I'll go into early withdrawal after taking kratom. I'm trying to get off opiates and would like to take some kratom in the morning followed up with a suboxone/subutex, but I'm worried about early withdrawal.

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Thank you for letting us know.

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Half the crowd says they're synergistic
The other half says sub will block the plant
Nothing conclusive they both affect my receptors bup does have the strongest agonist binding affinity

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BEING ON KRATOM FOR 2 MONTHS.. THE MAIN QUESTION IS HOW LONG TO WAIT TO TAKE SUBOXONE WITHOUT GOING INTO PRECIPITATED WITHDRAWAL. WENT THROUGH IT ONCE NOT PRETTY. SO HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO WAIT TO AVOID. PW

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Re: Kratomsucks (# 33)

I have not had to take subutex in a good while now..what I was trying to let others know that someone can take kratom along with suboxone and nothing will happen. Someone taking methadone or buprenorphine together will not experience much using kratom. It's almost impossible to feel the effects. It's just a very useful plant to someone without pharmaceutical meds in their system. HOWEVER if using this plant kratom to detox yes, u can keep using them together. You will not notice the effects at least for almost a month because of the long half life of these 2 medications. And at first it will seem like your kratom bill will be expensive because of the amount and having to dose yourself every other hour or so...but I repeat, after the meds have gotten out of your system finally, kratom will work much better and that's when you will notice the wonders of this plant. And stay away from buying at a local gas station or headshop. Order online from a reputable vendor like I do and u will get very good kratom. Don't buy them in capsules - buy in bulk powder form and if needed capsule yourself. I have found so many people stating kratom doesn't work, and there are many reasons why. If I could help anyone please let me know. I have had so much experience and trial and error too.

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Re: Charlene (# 32)

Nope you will be fine. I was on suboxone for two years n stopped for 3 weeks. I took Keaton on those 3 weeks everyday all day. About 30 g per day. I decided to take suboxone again because the Keaton was a waste of money and did not make me feel better. I took 8 g of kratom at 12 n took suboxone at 4 and I was completely fine. Great actually no precipitated withdrawals. Just felt great from suboxone. N to be honest I think I could have taken the suboxone right after the kratom. I was nervous about the w/d too so I came on this thread for help n finally said screw it n took the sub. Hope this helps!

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For anyone trying kratom while on methadone, buprenorphine treatment, or pain medications: You will not be able to feel the kratom trying to work for you right away. It's just a plant trying to fight pharmaceutical meds. However, you can keep taking kratom, and every day that goes by you will soon notice that you are not running to your pill bottle as much as you used to. So just keep at it and it will work. I could take a good month for all the subs or methadone to leave your body because of the half life they each have. Monthly you will notice your kratom is working and it's a beautiful thing not to have that crutch to have to hang onto anymore. So many people think "why isn't my kratom working?" Either you bought poor quality or gave up very quickly. Buy from a reputable vendor, reds for night, greens for the day. Don't expect it to work overnight. Remember, those two drugs have a long half life. Just because your methadone or buprenorphine gave you a bump of euphoria is not always a good thing ... it's just one addiction traded for a legal addiction.

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Kratom will not do much until you get buprenorphine or methadone out of your body. U can take it while trying to get off u will not notice it working because it's just a plant trying to fight these meds.but slowly every day eventually u will notice kratom working. That's a huge blessing to be off buprenorphine treatment. I have been on since 2005 at very high doses. So I have to say I don't think I could have done this without this beautiful plant that was given to us that grows from nature. Methadone and buprenorphine treatment is just another addiction to me. I have taken pills all my life. For a change I finally have a clear head and I dont have to rely on a sub to start my day..life is great

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Re: Kratomsucks (# 29)

Update! An hour after I took the sub I felt great. I wil be back on subs and stay off Kratom. I have an appointment tomorrow to get my script back. I hate Kratom. I felt like an addict again. I had to take so much trying to chase the feeling suboxone gave me. And no I don’t want to be high. I want to be a functioning member of society. I take one sub in the morning. And I go about my day never having cravings for anything else. I had to take so much Kratom and it didn’t do anything but give me a headache. If you want to get clean Kratom is not the way to go. I was spending so much money in one week for the price of going to the dr once a month to get subs.

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I was on suboxone for a year. Stopped 3 weeks ago. Started taking Kratom the day I was out of suboxone. Have been taking around 30g a day for 3 weeks. I hate Kratom. I feel like an addict again having to take it throughout the day and to be honest. It sucks. I took 1mg suboxone at 4:19 today after have by 8g of Kratom at 12pm. It’s been a little over 30min and no pwds. I don’t think I will get them if it hasn’t started yet

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

I have been on suboxone for over a year I mix kratom within minutes of taking my suboxone and am perfectly fine. But I guess maybe it is different for everyone

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

No the naloxone in the sub is so you won't administer it intravenously. The buprenorphine is what blocks anything else because it doesn't let anything else on your receptors. If you give any advice know your s*** please.

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I take 12 mg of Suboxone a day. Once I quit taking it how soon would kratom start becoming effective, meaning when would I feel any results from taking it?

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Thank you... Yours was the only answer I got in this!!!

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

SO WRONG! DO YOUR HOMEWORK OR GET MORE EXPERIENCED..... THE BUPE IS THE BLOCKER! THE NALOXONE OS TOTALLY OBSOLETE WHEN TAKEN CORRECTLY! SUBUTEX WILL CAUSE PWD JUST AS WELL AS SUBOXONE! FACT! BEEN LIVING IT! OP, MY ADVICE IS DO NOT TAKE ANY SUB TILL YOUR RECEPTORS ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY AND YOU ARE IN WITHDRAWAL! IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MONEY FAR AS THE NALOXONE IS COCERNED.... JUST LOOK UP THE PRICE OF IT!

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Re: Zack (# 21)

Same. It was a weird feeling for sure.

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Thanks for your input. It helped me out :)

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Re: Emily (# 1)

In my experience, I have been taking 45 grams a day for six months. I just recently got a suboxone script andI researched far and wide for the answer. I took about 28 grams today at 4:30pm. I finally gave in and took a whole strip at 11:20 pm. I didn't receive and pws but I felt something strange in my chest similar to congestion. Lasted 20 minutes. Conclusion is that you are able to take the suboxone with no adverse effects. I actually feel great and it's working phenomenal

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

Hey, so I read ur post and I can help u out. So I recently read about kratom also and had ordered quite a bit. I am also on suboxone as well, so I read some stuff that said it was cool to take it. So I did and honestly no withdrawal at all, but also u barely feel s***. One time I felt a positive feeling of well being. Idk if it was in my head or what but it felt good. I've been chasing that feeling takin a tablespoon at a time which is like 10 grams and nothing from what everyone says is u def would so I'm guessing it blocks it. I wish I knew how long I had to be off it for it to work but I just can't get myself to go without taking the sub. S***s rough lol. But that's what I've experienced. And oh yeah btw whoever said naloxone is for not being able to abuse suboxone or whatever is straight wrong. Naloxone is a blocker so u do not use other opiates and will put u in withdrawals if u use other opiates. Just get ur facts straight. But tomorrow im gonna take some more kratom. If u want to talk and get more info {edited for privacy} maybe we can help each other out on some questions. Thanks.

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From personal experience, like today and yesterday, I have found that taking suboxone after ingesting kratom did not have any ill effects. My friend has been taking kratom continuously for about 2 weeks and had taken some yesterday during the day. My friend got to my place at about 9pm last night and had 8mg of suboxone over a two- three hour period throughout the night. They actually ended up taking more suboxone than he/she usually does, whereas I am on suboxone 20mg, full time for 4 months so far. My last dose of subs was on Wednesday, and so Saturday is when I chose to take kratom, when I was starting to feel withdrawals from the subs. I took a lot (50g) of kratom over a 2-3 hour period (red Bali), which was such a nice treat to be able to feel. (Been an opiate addict for 10 years and am 4 months clean on suboxone with no slip ups) so this kratom was a super nice treat. Anyway my last dose of kratom was this morning at about 12:30pm (morning for me) like maybe 5g (just the leftovers in the bags from last night) and I took an Ativan. Slept all day... got up and took my 20mg of suboxone around 7:30 and I feel fine. I feel great actually. (It’s been an hour since I took the subs) And I asked my friend, who said they had taken kratom maybe 2-3 hours before they dosed the subs, and did not experience any withdrawals; though they did need to take more subs than usual to get a proper effect. So yeah, first-hand review from 2 people in slightly different circumstances but very different tolerance levels...yet still associated with the question asked. I hope this info helps. Curious to know how it goes for you. You should be fine.

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