How Long After Taking Kratom Can You Take Suboxone (Page 2)

Hi I have been on suboxone for four weeks, before that I was on methadone for five years. I decided to try kratom to stop the suboxone but it isn't really doing much and I feel really lethargic and headaches. I took about 4-5gram of kratom at 8am, it's now 1:40pm"..I want to take some suboxone, will I get sick? Precipitated withdrawals? I've seen some people say they take suboxone after kratom and are fine, but, there isn't much out there on the topic. I just don't wanna get sick for I have a three ur old boy and Christmas is in two days

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Re: Emily (# 1)

In my experience, I have been taking 45 grams a day for six months. I just recently got a suboxone script andI researched far and wide for the answer. I took about 28 grams today at 4:30pm. I finally gave in and took a whole strip at 11:20 pm. I didn't receive and pws but I felt something strange in my chest similar to congestion. Lasted 20 minutes. Conclusion is that you are able to take the suboxone with no adverse effects. I actually feel great and it's working phenomenal

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Thanks for your input. It helped me out :)

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Re: Zack (# 21)

Same. It was a weird feeling for sure.

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

SO WRONG! DO YOUR HOMEWORK OR GET MORE EXPERIENCED..... THE BUPE IS THE BLOCKER! THE NALOXONE OS TOTALLY OBSOLETE WHEN TAKEN CORRECTLY! SUBUTEX WILL CAUSE PWD JUST AS WELL AS SUBOXONE! FACT! BEEN LIVING IT! OP, MY ADVICE IS DO NOT TAKE ANY SUB TILL YOUR RECEPTORS ARE COMPLETELY EMPTY AND YOU ARE IN WITHDRAWAL! IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MONEY FAR AS THE NALOXONE IS COCERNED.... JUST LOOK UP THE PRICE OF IT!

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Thank you... Yours was the only answer I got in this!!!

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I take 12 mg of Suboxone a day. Once I quit taking it how soon would kratom start becoming effective, meaning when would I feel any results from taking it?

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

No the naloxone in the sub is so you won't administer it intravenously. The buprenorphine is what blocks anything else because it doesn't let anything else on your receptors. If you give any advice know your s*** please.

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

I have been on suboxone for over a year I mix kratom within minutes of taking my suboxone and am perfectly fine. But I guess maybe it is different for everyone

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I was on suboxone for a year. Stopped 3 weeks ago. Started taking Kratom the day I was out of suboxone. Have been taking around 30g a day for 3 weeks. I hate Kratom. I feel like an addict again having to take it throughout the day and to be honest. It sucks. I took 1mg suboxone at 4:19 today after have by 8g of Kratom at 12pm. It’s been a little over 30min and no pwds. I don’t think I will get them if it hasn’t started yet

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Re: Kratomsucks (# 29)

Update! An hour after I took the sub I felt great. I wil be back on subs and stay off Kratom. I have an appointment tomorrow to get my script back. I hate Kratom. I felt like an addict again. I had to take so much trying to chase the feeling suboxone gave me. And no I don’t want to be high. I want to be a functioning member of society. I take one sub in the morning. And I go about my day never having cravings for anything else. I had to take so much Kratom and it didn’t do anything but give me a headache. If you want to get clean Kratom is not the way to go. I was spending so much money in one week for the price of going to the dr once a month to get subs.

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Kratom will not do much until you get buprenorphine or methadone out of your body. U can take it while trying to get off u will not notice it working because it's just a plant trying to fight these meds.but slowly every day eventually u will notice kratom working. That's a huge blessing to be off buprenorphine treatment. I have been on since 2005 at very high doses. So I have to say I don't think I could have done this without this beautiful plant that was given to us that grows from nature. Methadone and buprenorphine treatment is just another addiction to me. I have taken pills all my life. For a change I finally have a clear head and I dont have to rely on a sub to start my day..life is great

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For anyone trying kratom while on methadone, buprenorphine treatment, or pain medications: You will not be able to feel the kratom trying to work for you right away. It's just a plant trying to fight pharmaceutical meds. However, you can keep taking kratom, and every day that goes by you will soon notice that you are not running to your pill bottle as much as you used to. So just keep at it and it will work. I could take a good month for all the subs or methadone to leave your body because of the half life they each have. Monthly you will notice your kratom is working and it's a beautiful thing not to have that crutch to have to hang onto anymore. So many people think "why isn't my kratom working?" Either you bought poor quality or gave up very quickly. Buy from a reputable vendor, reds for night, greens for the day. Don't expect it to work overnight. Remember, those two drugs have a long half life. Just because your methadone or buprenorphine gave you a bump of euphoria is not always a good thing ... it's just one addiction traded for a legal addiction.

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Re: Charlene (# 32)

Nope you will be fine. I was on suboxone for two years n stopped for 3 weeks. I took Keaton on those 3 weeks everyday all day. About 30 g per day. I decided to take suboxone again because the Keaton was a waste of money and did not make me feel better. I took 8 g of kratom at 12 n took suboxone at 4 and I was completely fine. Great actually no precipitated withdrawals. Just felt great from suboxone. N to be honest I think I could have taken the suboxone right after the kratom. I was nervous about the w/d too so I came on this thread for help n finally said screw it n took the sub. Hope this helps!

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Re: Kratomsucks (# 33)

I have not had to take subutex in a good while now..what I was trying to let others know that someone can take kratom along with suboxone and nothing will happen. Someone taking methadone or buprenorphine together will not experience much using kratom. It's almost impossible to feel the effects. It's just a very useful plant to someone without pharmaceutical meds in their system. HOWEVER if using this plant kratom to detox yes, u can keep using them together. You will not notice the effects at least for almost a month because of the long half life of these 2 medications. And at first it will seem like your kratom bill will be expensive because of the amount and having to dose yourself every other hour or so...but I repeat, after the meds have gotten out of your system finally, kratom will work much better and that's when you will notice the wonders of this plant. And stay away from buying at a local gas station or headshop. Order online from a reputable vendor like I do and u will get very good kratom. Don't buy them in capsules - buy in bulk powder form and if needed capsule yourself. I have found so many people stating kratom doesn't work, and there are many reasons why. If I could help anyone please let me know. I have had so much experience and trial and error too.

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BEING ON KRATOM FOR 2 MONTHS.. THE MAIN QUESTION IS HOW LONG TO WAIT TO TAKE SUBOXONE WITHOUT GOING INTO PRECIPITATED WITHDRAWAL. WENT THROUGH IT ONCE NOT PRETTY. SO HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO WAIT TO AVOID. PW

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Half the crowd says they're synergistic
The other half says sub will block the plant
Nothing conclusive they both affect my receptors bup does have the strongest agonist binding affinity

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Thank you for letting us know.

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

The nalaxone is simply put there so you don't abuse the suboxone, otherwise it doesn't do anything, it's inactive. If you take suboxone or subutex too early after taking other opioids you will go into withdrawals early with or without the naloxone. I know this from personal experience. However, I'm in the same situation with the kratom, I don't know if I'll go into early withdrawal after taking kratom. I'm trying to get off opiates and would like to take some kratom in the morning followed up with a suboxone/subutex, but I'm worried about early withdrawal.

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Re: twodogs (# 7)

How much Kratom does it take to help you feel better in the midst of withdrawals?

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Kratom works on the mu opioid, kappa and delta receptors. However, it seems to “clog” the receptors for a few days after use. Therefore, opioids don’t seem to work as well while on or immediately after use of Kratom. Chris McCurdy at University of Florida is leading expert on Kratom and has probably studied it more than anyone in the world. I think they just got a grant from gov to study it again. Look him up and read his articles if u want to know about Kratom.

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