Can Subutex Be A Small White Round Pill With 8 On One Side And An Arrow On The Other (Page 4)
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My friend takes 8mg subutex and when he picked up his script today, they weren't the usual white tablet. They were white and the size of a 2mg subutex with an 8 on one side and an arrow on the other. Could his pharmacist have made a big mistake or are these just a different brand??

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Yes me to I never want to go back to drug life and it makes me sick when that's all people want it for is cause they r out of there dope but give it time they will f*** it up for the people that is really trying

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How do I get my doctor to hook me up with subutex? I need it bad. I am an IV heroin and opiate user. Please help me!

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it is a generic but the same

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It's the right thing.

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Have they started working? It was just today that I received the tiny ones. The thing about buprenorphrene(sp) is that once it fills all your receptors, that's it they are full. Where the higher dose comes in, I haven't figured out yet and I have taken as much as 8mg dose.

Thing about it is, I was ordering this stuff from India to the place I lived at the time. It came in tablet form and were blister packs. Many of the old timers can tell you about them. They were 0.5ug(micrograms) and sold as Temgesic i think it was called. But it was bupe alright. At the time I was taking up to 8 hydrocodone 10/325's. if I ran out I switched to the bupe and used 2 of the tablets at a time about twice a day as they just made me feel normal and lasted. So now I live in the states and use bupe for pain management but I am given the 8mg tablets that are to be taken as 1/2 trouce three time daily. I honest was a little upset at the small size as I chop them into 16-32 pieces each. And been working just fine. So I'm still confused about the dosages given. My Dr was oblivious of the temgisic use going back to years before Suboxone. I do think that Subutex has been around a long time in Europe. I recall reading something about that in an article about addictions towards opiates. Supposed to be the miracle drug. They were right...but I think the high doses does something to your receptors were 8mg is the normal feeling. I still take just chips of these and feel great.

Recently I went to see my grandma and only took one tablet with me thinking I would be there 4 days. She feel ill and I had to stay 2 weeks. The one 8 mg got me through the whole 2 weeks with change.

Hopefully people will look this up, and cut their doses. I'm not saying doc has to know as the extras will last and build up a supply for an emergency.

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So HATE ins. Companies!!

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I have been on subutex for a little over a year bcuz of my baby..I was on suboxone tabs for 3yrs before that and the tex are alot better. I get the big ones but I did get the small ones once r twice and they suck I think. But I heard they r coming out w a subutex film strip now and I wanted to knw if anyone else has heard that bcuz I really do not want tex strips whatsoever!

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I actually had a baby on subutex & he came out withdrawaling & the stupid doctor said that it was worse than roxys! I know what I've heard from doctors about it is true,(that it's safer) but honestly I didn't see anything wrong with him, he was a little fussy from being in the nicu but what baby doesn't cry! To be honest I think she was judging me on my past!!

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Hey Danielle-
Back in November, I had hit the donut hole in my Medicare prescription plan, which meant that instead of getting prescriptions covered at 80% (more or less), they were only paying 10% amd I had to shell out the other 90%, which, for Suboxone ended up being close to $600. I have been clean off of opiate drugs for three years this past July, taking only Suboxone for the chronic pain I suffer in my leg as a result of a bad motorcycle accident back in 2006 that left me permanently disabled. Anyway, the Walgreen's pharmacist checked prices for me, and we found out that if the doctor would switch me to generic subutex (it's just called sublingual buprenorphine), the out of pocket cost to me would only have been $149 instead of $600. So, here's what I did. I asked the pharmacist to print out all those price comparisons (between Suboxone, Name-brand Subuted, and generic Subutex), and I took them all to my medication shrink, and when he saw the cost difference, he switched me right over to generic subutex (buprenorphine) right away, and apologized for not doing it sooner!!!

Sometimes, as recovering people, we get tongue-tied asking for meds or different formulations because we worry it might be seen as drug-seeking behavior by the doctors. However, if you arm yourself with the facts, and make a reasonable request of your doctor based on the dollars and sense, I bet you will have good luck. Also, one last thing: If you DO get switched onto generic subutex, ask your pharmacy for the TINY ones with the 8 on one side and the arrow on the other - they are about 1/4 the size of the other generic, dissolve in just under two minutes, and they don't taste awful like the big ones do. I also have found the tiny ones work better for me. Again, good luck with everything.

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Ive been clean 2years tg for subutex. And b/c of it im a happy healthy 25yr old 2 beautiful kids and soon to b wife also. I would have lost literally everything I live for. Where im from u only get subutex 2 ways pregnant or allergic to reg suboxone and im allergic. Subutex saved my life well possible death of heroin overdose. So to all of u clean and serious of ur recovery amen to you. Those who actually get on here talking about sniffing or shooting this med is insane and not fair to uS who had nothingg left no other options and I wasnt going on methadone with kids. I have energy everyday I take 1 in a half subutex daily. I get the white bigger pill. Some get the small ones but now most get strips and I hear they rgointo mint flavor. All I know is this drug saves lives not meant to b abused I mean did u even try taking it normal? I was addicted to sniffing my favorite thing and inever thought to sniff my subutex cuz it wasnt the point of me gettin on them it was to brake old addiction not make new addiction. But a friend in cali says they only give subutex but so many ppl abuse them they wanna stop giving them out to neone but pregnant or severe medically proven allergies (deadly) well thats how it is in mass neways. It took me a month of buying my script before my insurance approved dr.s medical reasoning. No refund paid in full. Nearly made me relapse cuz I couldnt afford it but got thru it. But this drug truely is a life saver and I will be a lifer and I dont feel ashamed to admit that. Have happy and safe recoveries to those who wanna be helped and get on living a normal life.

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i am on the suboxen strips for 2 years now.. i was never prescribed the tablets. i hate to admit this but a couple of times early on when i would cut myself short for the month i would buy a couple from someone else, she was prescribed the tablets, i really don't see that much of a difference. i mean maybe if i did it often but i really think that as addicts we are afraid of change and changing a medication that we have taken for so long and have grown to trust to get through the day is scary. i think if u give the films a chance and try not to dwell on it it may not be as bad as you think. also when i was first inducted they made me feel sick also but it goes away in time as long as i remember to eat im ok.
also about 2 months ago when i was at the pharmacy to refill i was asking about subutex prices and what not bc i am a cash pay and suboxen is a little pricey, the pharmacist told me that some company has started to make tex films and they would be out soon.....

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hi geoffrey...i just read your 12/24 post and have more questions, lol...i'm actually kinda smart, but when it comes to this stuff i get confused quick...i'm not sure which post of mine it is, but if you read the last 1 or 2 from 'Danielle' you should get a general idea of where i'm at and where i was...i have never taken anything besides the 8 mg subox name brand tablet and the name brand film...i was very lucky to learn about the suboxone the way i did...it was late september 2010, one day after my 40th bday, and i was in a place so bad even now my stomach sinks to my feet when i think about that night, and i'm glad I remember it because it keeps me vigilante and filled with a healthy fear...i had almost 5 years clean on my own, never heard of suboxone, and this time around i called a friend I'd lost touch with a year or 2 ago and suspected he'd had a bad go with pain killers...long story short, he gave me a few along with the name # & address of his doc...since 9/30/10 i've been off the killers...i was never aware of subutex until i joined this forum a little over a year ago...i wonder why my doctor didn't tell me about subutex...i think it seems more people take this over suboxone? i know that nasty ingredient in the subox is the stuff that's supposed to make it abuse proof, correct?

do you think my doctor would have a problem with my asking to try this other sub? I know it's a matter of time before my 30 day script gets filled with film...maybe it would be a good thing...im up for approval again (every 6 months) with my insurance, AETNA, to continue to cover my prescription which they've done for over 2 years...suboxone is the name brand only as you know, and while i have a $10 copay, i know this med is insanely high-priced, and perhaps I'll get booted in february and then my only real option would be subutex since i gather they have a generic....but i believe you may have said it was lousy? I must do some research here....thanks for any info u can provide...thank u....

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And yes people, we know Subutex/Suboxone works and is well worth the try, if taken correctly. The man asked a question about the kind of pill his friend received, not for a counseling session. And EDDIE...you're right. I'm on the same page as you. You've taken both kinds so you actually know what I'm talking about.

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The post below was in reply to Kaitlyn's post. Probably shoulda stuck that in there...sorry.

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Apparently you've never had the NAME BRAND Subutex. Because if you did, you would know there's a huge difference in them compared to the generics you've taken. That said, you can't really post your opinion about them considering you've, once again, never taken them. And yes there's a huge difference between the size. The smaller ones have less ingredients ( those which interact with the buprenorphine causing a different effect in feeling with the larger 8mg tablets) than the larger ones. I think that's a bit OBVIOUS. Read up on people's comments about the small 8mgs and you will learn that more than the majority prefers the larger 8mgs as opposed to the smaller ones. There just not the same. If they were, they would all be the same size. The small 8mg tablets are simply made cheaper. The less ingredients put in, the cheaper they are to produce. Not many people are prescribed the small 8mg tablets, and there's a reason for that. It's not that hard to figure out.

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Yes You are taking the right thing! They Br subs just a different maker! Some people have said they are even stronger cuz they have less fillers in them! Read all the posts above mine to you! Good luck to you!

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itremble, i just read your post...hopefully you visit often and will read my post...i've been taking suboxone (i'm embarassed to say and pissed that i am embarassed, i shouldn't give a f***, but anyway) for 2 years and 2 months...it's better than what i was doing before and i know everybody says that, too, but nonetheless, it's my truth...i am taking much less now than i did the first year and a half...i was curious about what u meant about the nalaxone in suboxone? i think i just butchered the spelling of nalax but o well...my concern is that i guess they've stopped making the subox tablets...i think the strips are AWFUL. they make me sick...i have some. i got them for free thru the pharma co that makes them...i got 20 of them on 12/12/11 and here it is 12/19/12 and i still have 9 left. they've come in handy for emergencies and i always keep 2 in my wallet...the last time i had one about 3 months ago, i felt stoned out of my mind and could barely speak...i've never had subutex and im not sure i feel too good about it after all that i have read about it...im stock piling suboxone and trying to have as much on hand as i can, because i dread the day i go to get my script filled and told they only have the film.

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Please shut the hell up. Stop begging

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So here is my take with the small Arrow 8s. See I just started getting these as well and it seemed as if they weren't as strong as the larger Tevas or straight Suboxone.

I think the problem I was having and most others with the small 8s is that we are swallowing a lot of the concentrated bup. With the big pills you could let them melt over time.. and the release of the bup was steady.. it wasn't like if you swallowed once you'd loose 4mg.

So I am trying that now, because I have been eating these like candy. I haven't slept in two days. Argh.. in the shower, out of the shower, in the shower, out of the shower. Restless legs.. all I want is benzos now, but we all know that leads to darker places.

So, lets take another 4mg and just not swallow for 15minutes.. or try not.. to.. and hope I can sleep.

Also, the Suboxone is a scam.. People know how to shoot them regardless of the naloxone. It was just a way for big pharma to milk the money out of a generation that got hooked on all the pain killers they give out like candy to an heavily aging population.

I never met a herion addict that jumped into needles.. It was, and was for me.. nicking my parents back pain pills that got me started.

Damn.. almost swallowed...

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The n with arrow on one side and 8 on other they are 8mg
And there isnt any Naloxne in Subutex just (Bupinorphen) or however its spelled!! And i think they r better than the 54 411`s! O and FYI Naloxne is an opiot blocker which is in Suboxone Strips along with bupinorphen!! They r both made in 2mg and 8 mgs but they never give out the 2mg..... Suboxne is so hrd to get, and everybody I know thinks they wrk bettet, Dont take the strips unless Doc makes you, Trust Me!!!!!!!!!



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