Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 5)
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is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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It's just sad in 2016 big pharma & the DEA take a abused drug that works for people with chronic everyday pain because it gets abused or makes broke people a lot of money, but doesn't beer, alcohol get abused and make people a lot of money too!!???? I still see them on the market! And Cigarettes etc. I could go on an on naming abused things, but there all still on the market!

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My mom. Died after. Ten. Years of mexaateice in duce fibroaes, i need. The old oc. I have had ro rake them for thirty years since my accident an the new op have. No effect.

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Soldier of One, overdoses are all ready higher than ever before because of the government getting big pharma to weaken all analgesics. Now addicts are taking huge doses and dying because their not getting a buzz on a couple of pills, but with that said chronic pain patients aren't getting an acceptable level of analgesia either because of watered down analgesics. We all know to well when the government gets involved in anything they make it worse and the innocent always suffer the most, but don't worry the government already has a bunch of one sided flawed studies they paid for with our money to get the results they wanted so they can tout a bunch of lies only an imbecile would buy into... I guess this is more Odumbo policy to make us ashamed to be Americans, it's actually working on me. As I'm ashamed to live in a country who puts the lives of drug addicts above legitimately suffering human beings. Don't forget this is the same imbecile who made Al Sharpton the head of race relations in America, next drug addicts will run all the pharmacies in the new Odumbo world order... I hear you on how our government is helping terrorists sell more street drugs and fund their cause, but if they were Christian terrorists selling drugs Odumbo would wipe them out!

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If the formula isn't changed back to the original then the result is more overdosing because pain pill addicts have turned to illicit drugs. This is a lesser of 2 evils here because the users are going to use until they want help but by changing the ingredients the users now have no clue of the strength or what it's cut with.

The other side effect is the billions of dollars going to drug dealers & our enemies in the middle east that can't wait to send the purest opiates on earth to the USA, we're under attack on another front which is our youth or next generation.

The damage done by users turning to illicit drugs & the needle is much more expensive when all of the costs are tallied up but the government in their feeble attempt to fix a problem have created another set of problems while funding terrorism & causing a market on the streets to explode.

I won't even go into the known carcinogens that are now in the new formula & for the people that really need these drugs it's another problem so more violence on the streets due to everyone wanting in on the products to uncontrolled doses from street dealers when the users knew the dose they were taking with the original oxycodone & we're funding the very people that want us dead, this money funds terrorism as the middle east produces some of the best opiates in the world & the Taliban along with other terrorists are enjoying unlimited funding to carry out attacks on the civilized world.

There is an easy way out for opiate addicts it's called suboxone which fools the brain by filling in the opiate receptors while the naloxone pulls the opiates out of the brain. Once the user has a grip they can switch to subutex which is suboxone without the naloxone so the brain's opiate receptors are kept level but there is a higher chance of relapse because no naloxone means the user can still feel high without going into withdraw.

Strange that all of these kids start out smoking or using marijuana products before stepping up to opiates, people don't realize that the THC content of modern marijuana is 2 or 2.5 time higher than in the 60s & 70s so this isn't your mom & pops hippy marijuana, this is a strong product & left wing policies have made a deal with the devil by making access to marijuana much easier but the money coming into the states is too good, but what use is the next generation going to be?

Our chickens are coming home to roost & I know a lot of amish families we're close with but they don't have all the problems this generation has so I wonder why that is? They have mental illness but no violence in their community so maybe we should look at what they're doing as it's clearly working better than what we're doing. The Amish don't steal or do drugs or kill in the name of God while we can't say the same of others so why is it the 500,000 Amish in the USA can get it right but we can't? I'm sure someone will dismiss them as religious freaks that answer to a higher power but from where I'm standing that's not such a bad thing.

We couldn't even field an Army if we needed a draft because this generation is obese, no skills, using some form of dope, they will be the first generation that we didn't leave the country better off than is was handed to us so maybe we should look at ourselves too.

I've seen opiate dependency & helped a lot of people get to a doctor that put them on suboxone then subutex & completely clean, being a pool player for a long time I seen a lot of people getting addicted so I felt it was my duty to help them clean up with a long law enforcement background plus military I feel looking out for our people & making this country better at the same time is a duty.

Change the formula back to the original & you'll see illicit drug use go down significantly with less overdoses, less medical costs, & impact street dealers & stop paying for terrorism, if this doesn't happen this wildfire will only get worse.

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Dear P450

I guess since shattering my tib n fib in both legs. I have been trying any kind of idea or therapy to get back to who I was. I realize now I was too eager to believe u and the whole CRPS thing, which I do not have at all!

As for the hair on my legs that pretty much has stopped growing with the exception of a few amusing tuffs. There has been much trauma to my legs that I believe, my poor legs have no strength to grow hair. I would believe most people on this site would accept hair growth was greatly reduced in areas that have been subjected to great trauma but u as a nurse have very nicely I must add, described it as BS! Thank u for that.

I don't know why the skin on my feet has darkened nor got all shiny n why I am losing elasticity. I'm losing surface feeling n that tingling feeling is spreading. The throbbing pain, the dull ache. The cold that won't leave, its not fun watching your toe nails go blue. The jabs that feel like a hot poker. The leg spasms that I have no control over and always scare me because I am sacred of falling down, which happened again yesterday. This time leaving me with a bruised cheek (I somehow hit myself in the face) and now two very blooded knees that look all jacked up n all kinds of nasty.

Thank you Jay. As per usual your post is always helpful. I had a little read but need to do more. I will ask what my physiotherapist thinks.

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Posters,

Addiction is a separate disease, whoever said pain clients are physically addicts or chemically is WRONG. The word we use in healthcare is tolerant. The word addict used for a legitimate pain patient is malpractice.

Kashmir, the hair deal is highly BS does not happen, the pain with RSD is the worst. You need a physician who will treat your pain.

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Hi Kasmir, I was wondering, have you ever heard of a condition called 'scleroderma'? Scleroderma is a chronic connective tissue disease generally classified as one of the autoimmune rheumatic diseases. The word “scleroderma” comes from two Greek words: “sclero” meaning hard, and “derma” meaning skin. Hardening of the skin is one of the most visible manifestations of the disease. Here is a link to more information on scleroderma:

scleroderma.org/site/pagename=patients_VlyBrGSrSCd

Have a read and see if your symptoms fit scleroderma. Worth a read, if only to rule it out. It IS a lost of elasticity. It's very hard to treat anything until you have a correct diagnosis. If you think you may have this, you will need to consult an arthritis specialists. Good Luck Kasmir, hope this helps. Cheers!

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Dear P450,

Thank u so very much for that. It appears that only u and I suffer for this condition on this forum. I have an auto immune disease, still not sure if I am type 1 or 2 but I know, I am one of them.

I cried as I read the symptoms. I thought the hair growth one was funny but sadly true, the hair on my legs has stopped growing. The condition sounds exactly like what I have. What I don't understand is why had my gp and my pain clinic doctor did not even pick it up. The best solution for me, so they tell me is to get off pain medication altogether.

I have told then about my legs and the kind of pain I feel. So they do know everything.

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I want the OC OxyContin I understand they are OP I don't feel they work as well and I'm getting conflicting information as to rather you can now get my precription of of OxyContin to OC not OP now if so why do my local pharmacies know nothing about OC back?? With my precription where can I get OC'S??

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Robert, you are most likely being given the new oxycontin (reformulation) read back through these posts and you will find lots of conversation about it, including the lack of pain relief as the drug is not dissolving properly due to the 'glue type' formula they are using. I guess you are in the USA. Here in Australia we are very lucky to now have the generic formula which is a replica of the original oxycontin, without the awful coating on it. From reading, we have gathered it is almost impossible in the USA to get the original formula. If you are in Oz, then ask your doctor NOT to put a 'tick' in the box on your script that says 'brand substitution not permitted' then ask your phamacist for 'Sandoz brand generic Oxycontin'. You should not be denied this if the box is not ticked. Talk to you doctor about the generic, some doctors don't even know it exists! Tell him your pain meds no longer work like they did and tell him about the Sandoz generic. If you are in Oz, you can get it no problems and your pain will be relieved once again and you will feel better. If you are in America, my heart goes out to you all. We were in this position for six months but then the generic came out, I believe it came out in the US also but the company that manufactures the reformulation, managed to stop it being available. Disgusting behaviour, not caring about people in pain, only money. If you have RA (being Rheumatoid Arthritis) have you tried going onto 'Methotrixate' yet? My mother was on it and it helped her pain tremendously. It is actually a chemotherapy drug so it you go on to it, you cannot have alcohol at all. My mum stopped drinking so she could have pain relief (and she liked a drink, daily...) so speak to your pain specialist or hospital about it.
All my best wishes to you.

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The 120 mg limit is only affecting Medicaid right now in all states.. however my Dr. Told me if not fought now they will move it to medicare and on up... however if it gets to medicare the insurance people paid for out of their paycheck all their lives that thsee politicians keep calling a entitlement!!! That will not go over well.. it's not affecting enough right now and untill it does they don't seem to care..if we are bedridden we might not go vote....

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My Oxycodone 15 does not give me pain relief like it did .Something is different about the way medicine.Long time RA patient.

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A few years ago the the state of Tennessee did the same with Opana vs oxymorphone when I pushes back I found that most doctor's did not know a generic version excited and that if the word Opana was on the script at all the pharmacy had to prescribe the plastic.. out of all pharmacist I talked to at time only one told me of the generic version and explained the A.B. rating system I had to have the doctor write oxymorphone only on the script. Easy enough I thought... what a joke ... no pharmacy carried or would order except for one I finally found. Which ment stuck with rude and over controlling pharmacy for a couple years sadly however heart burn gone with in a couple months! I have not looked into anything else but possible could have something out there with same situation hopefully! I will pass on info if I come across it. I more year left of a dictator-n-chief sadly I think it's gonna still be a fight after to many people are not educated and only believe the b.s. hype that they here. Sadly they dont know the true meaning of the word addiction either.. sure cronic pain patients Need Medicine.. however we are not mentally addicted.. our bodies become chemically dependent.. However, anyone could say the same for the morning cup of coffee the morning routine they use or tylenol... anything that helps a person is what they will use... do that make them a JUNKIE? People need educated.. let's take a baseball bat and beat them till they are bruised.. then hit it over and over after a year give them 2 days of correct meds for pain.. then take it away... wonet if they would take it like we are now? So sick of the political correct society that does not allow any mistakes either did we produce a generation of robots am I living in a nightmare? Where is common-sense? Keep educating the useful *****s I am old enough to not care what people think however when it affects me and loved ones push back is needed.. the more education the better I learned you talk polite but some people it still goes right over their head.. one lady told my mother "Anyone that needs medicine should be in a home" My mother shor back said I had been working 15 years and taking care of my children. So am I supposed to be in home and give my children away.. however would loose job and be homeless no home would take me without pay!.. I am deeply saddened how ignorant people have become.. one lady said "My mother didn't need to goto doctor with six kids etc..." I asked if her mom took a cough syrup over the counter at that.. she started to remember alot of cough syrup... I said Hello? That was laudnum (sp?) Strong and not regulated wow they had relief no wonder they had abilities to do all they did back then! Also percocet was called PERCODAN. Come on... people that have addiction problems is not new... if people wanna feel high they use whatever they can.. and been for 1000's of years.. read history books... the 1 percent of addicts did not blow us up... they did not all die obviously we are still here... how did we increase after Woodstock seriously! Sorry Ranting felt gratifying.

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Hi Jay, thanx for your support....yes i will be looking into this, im hoping this is an experiment which will fail in terms of lowering the overdoses....im sorry if this sounds calous & i mean no one harm, but legit pain patients like myself are being harmed because junkies have realised the generic is the old formula & are buying, stealing it (supposedly from people who are prescribed this) ive decided to try & ride it through for a few months, then see what the outcome is...... They've only stopped the people on higher doses from having the generic brand at this point. If it makes no difference to amount of overdoses by drug abusers, that gives me more ammunition when i start to fight this. Im going overseas for a month early next year & need to apply for permits etc for this, as going to Bali & Vietnam.... Want to be sure i have all the correct paperwork etc. dont need to get to customs & have any issues....so im not going to start fighting this until my return....if it gets nasty, they could hold up my paperwork or anything.... & it gives me a feeling there's something personal going on with the head of pbs. Those who abuse this drug, make it so much harder for those of us who need a medication such as oxycontin just to be able to move in the morning & get out of bed..... will keep you posted people, as far as i know this is a state thing, so those not in vic should be fine.

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Kashmir,

I am a professional nurse and published researcher I post on all trending posts if you want to read more on me.

Sounds like RSD now known as CRPS. I have this and it's a sick azz pain disorder 88 x worse then end stage cancer.

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Posters,

Methadone was created by one of Hitler's well paid scientists due to the SHORTAGE of poppy for opioids.

Lots of addicts posting wrong information. Methadone is the now cheapest LA medication on the market along with Duragesic the worst graduated withdrawal known to legitimate pain patients for addicts. Well if you voted Odumma you are now facing government rules on pain management and what you are bumping from those of us who are legitimate won't be available.

The 120 mg. morphine equivalent by the FDA is one.

States like California have prevented drug abuse by reducing strengths of Oxycodone and Contin available to the public, and addicts who literally break into pharmacies late night to get the higher strengths old Jerry Brown has blessed California with his stench but he protects ALL including pain patients who need unrestricted writing of opioids.

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Michelle, what about getting a petition going? If you go to change.org/start-a-petition you can start one up and I will definitely be signing it, people have got laws changed using these petitions, I have signed many of them and they are effective. Look into it, your a strong woman, eloquent and informed and very ill so what have to got to loose! Give it a go, if you get lots of support something can really happen. God forbid this happens in SA. I had to take antihistamines daily when I was on the 'poison' Oxycontin, six months of hell and I point blank refuse to take a drug that makes me so ill when a good alternative is available. My heart goes out to you Michelle, I am in shock for you, just can't believe this is really happening. When will they just leave us alone to live our lives in pain without caused extra pain! Stay strong my friend and know you are not alone. Cheers! (but not feeling too cheery - going to see my pharmacist and see if he knows anything about this).

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I think you have one answer, if your decreasing, some of your symptoms may be withdrawal. Do not go onto Methadone! Get another doctor as you intend to and stay on the Oxycontin, as you say if your being discriminated against now, it will be worse on Methadone. It costs the government a lot less, Methadone is extremely cheap as opposed to Oxycontin which is expensive. Methadone is a nasty drug but it has it's uses.

I am wondering about the change in colour in your feet, have you had your circulation checked out? You may have a blockage in a vein but if it is in both feet, could be a number of things including your heart so please do go and get a proper diagnosis, you can't treat it until you know what it is. The breathtaking pain you describe is common to sciatic pain, can go from the foot right up past the knee up to the buttock, does yours feel like this? It really is bad pain (I have had it several times, a nerve block worked wonders for me and cured it once). You might need a scan, preferably an MRI which will display any problems with your spine. Can you get a referral to see a specialist? Only a specialist can order an MRI.

As for people telling you to 'get over it' this is not something to 'get over' it is something to walk through, you have to feel the pain and walk on through the journey that is grief and eventually you will heal. Take no notice of those who say this, they are ignorant. Try keeping a journal it might help you get your feelings out and can be very helpful. You are in my prayers. Be strong but feel your feelings, there is nothing wrong with that, it is needed. Do take good care of yourself, please Kasmir.

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Hi everyone.....hate to do this, but i think its better to warn you. Recently in Victoria they have decided that anyone on high doses of Oxycontin must take the OP formula.....so im now back on the silicone crap....think i will have to change to something else as side effects are terrible. The reasoning is overdoses have gone up since the release of generic, & they blame that on the sale of oxycontin generics by patients prescribed it. My doctor tried to get an exemption but they wont do it, ive seen the lettter to vic doctors & its the guy that heads the department doing this. He wants the generic gone completely. I hope this doesnt happen with you all in other states.

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For me methadone was THE best medication for chronic pain. Especially for nerve related pain. For me I have peripheral neuropathy. Or PN. So painful. Started in my feet then slowly spread to hands. Then feel and legs then hands and arms. With shooting almost electrical type pain. I had to quit taking it tho. They added something it to that gave me heart burn too. Funny. Used to be the second I put the methadone tablets in my mouth, they dissolved INSTANTLY. I has to have a glass of water right there ready. Or I could taste it. Then I started getting bad heart burn and the pain wasn't being addressed. Plus my heart started racing. Took me a few months to put it together. But one day I was taking it and thought huh, that's weird it doesn't dissolve instantly like I uses too. Some days it would some not. I remembered that when I got my last refill I dumped it in with the previous months bottle. Still had some left over. So then I got to looking at them. The ones that didn't dissolve were taller, thicker and whiter and tasted kind of bitter. So I separated all those from the ones that dissolved and looked and tasted like they should have. Turns out even tho the new refill was made by same company, they were the ones that were making me sick. Heart burn, a weird heart burn too, racing heart and not treating pain hardly at all. At some point they changed the methadone formula. It almost sound like they put the same stuff in the old methadone formula that they put in the new OxyContin formula, so it would not dissolve. I don't know. Just a guess. But ever since then I can't take it anymore. But PLEASE you might try methadone, it is long acting naturally. Not cuz they make it that way. Also people don't realize that methadone was created in World War One for pain control. The army medics ran out of morphing and created methadone!! It was not created to treat opiate addicts. I didn't know that either. But they were looking for something that was inexpensive to produce and had long term pain coverage. It was till the late 1960s when viet nam vets started coming home after being addicted to opiates that they took recreationally while fighting over there. 2 drs in New York got the great idea to try treating these vetrans with methadone to help get off the other opiates. It was experimental. But it worked to a degree. Methadone gets a bad name. I thought the same till I my dr had me try it. I was kind of afraid of it. He have me methadone and them 5 mg oxycodone for break they pain. Turns out I didn't even need the break through medicine because the methadone worked so well. It gave me back my life. Until they changed the formula. Most people don't seem to be affected by it like I am. But if your hurting is give it a try. Do some research on it. Anymore if you take ANY pain med your thought to be a junkie. Very very sad. Like people with chronic pain don't struggle enough. Take care.

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