Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 31) (Top voted first)

is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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Michelle you will see Generics come December. It is a bit longer than we all wanted however PBS could not do their thing in the short amount of time they had (July 23rd - August 1st). Also there was a slight supply issue. I know Dox is saying otherwise and sounds like it is from info presented to him via local pharmacy/doctor.

All I can tell you is I have spent a lot of time looking into this matter, speaking with each pharmaceutical company (that is registered), The suppliers that are the in between of the pharmacies and the Pharma companies. Also e-mails back and forth with the media outlets that have reported on the generic approval. Had phone conversations with PBS and TGA. Lastly a letter to and from the assistant minister of health Fiona Nash.

From all that the conclusion is right this very second there is a green light for December having a generic form of Oxycodone slow release. (Not reformulated).

Michelle you are not alone. This new product ("Tamper resistant") is criminal. It is worst for your body and not as effective. Junkies are still using these intravenously and from what I understand, now prefer them as they are cheaper on the street. 5 Months down 3 to go :P Best wishes.

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Katherine, Im so sorry your husband is terminal, its a terrible thing watching someone you love dying in front of you, & are unable to do anything to stop it. I recently lost one of my closest friends to an aggressive breast cancer & I miss her a lot. Your right about not being able to know what someone is going through unless you've been in that situation. Ive been educating myself about the new oxy formula, & one doctor I found talking about it in the US, believes it affects those on long term high dosage the most. With opioid medication your tolerance builds up over time, & the dosage has to increase now & again, to give adequate pain relief. He found that in some people the tablet doesn't metabolise completely & therefore the person doesn't get the complete dosage. The other big problem found, is people developing stomach problems, I for one don't need anymore health issues to deal with so Im concerned about that. So with what this doctor researched I think its not noticeable to those with a lower tolerance, even though though may not get the complete dose they are getting enough to keep the pain in check. I hate having to take these meds but if I don't I have no quality of life. I will eventually die from E.C. (the disease I have) its contained in my bladder for now, but once it starts to spread it will kill of my vital organs. I try to make everyday count, even the ones when I cant get out of bed because of the pain, as you know life is short & each day we're alive is a wonderful gift. Good luck to you Katherine, I know its hard on you, but try to focus on the incredible life, you & your husband have had together & remember him as he was when healthy & strong.

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Hey Katherine, I know what your talking about, with your loved ones having pain relief for palliative care. The difference in that & chronic pain is vast, as for palliative purposes the dose is increased over a short period of time & the effects are very strong. When these types of drugs are taken for chronic pain the dosage increase is slight & your body is used to the medication. I was diagnosed 16yrs ago & im 46 now. If you met me you wouldnt have any idea i take oxycontin, i dont feel any effects such as drowsiness & dont know what it feels like to be high. The only effect i have is it dulls the pain, which is a big part of why i find it the best option for me, besides being allergic to most other pain medications. I havnt had an increase in dose for about 4yrs & i only increase it when i really have to & my pain specialist thinks i need to. I dont like having to rely on medication of any kind, & i tried everything possible before i gave in to my doctors advise to go onto a narcotic pain reliever, I would hardly ever take a panadol before this. When you are faced with excruciating pain at 30yrs old & no way of fixing it, you have to make a major decision of how to treat it. I love life & do everything i can to live it to the fullest, but after years of no diagnoses, multiple surgeries trying to diagnose it, a hysterectomy which left me unable to have more kids (i have a daughter), being told i have infections & given antibiotics i didnt need & waking up(if i got to sleep) with pain increasing everyday & no end in sight, I was at the point i considered ending it all. That was where i got to before i decided to take it, im grateful theres these types of medications, because i wouldnt have been able to cope with the pain & im able to have a bit of a life because of them. Before i got sick i trained & rode racehorses, ive had heaps of bad injuries from falls & kicks & have a high pain tolerence which i never had more than a panadeine forte for but the type of pain i have now is a whole other beast so i really had no choice but the pain meds. I hope this helps you to understand the difference between palliative & chronic pain treatment & use of oxycontin & the way it effects people. Best wishes to you & your family Katherine i hope things get better for you.

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Dox, so what is your new long acting med that works so well? I would love to know. I need something that works, that's for sure.

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Michelle Sandoz has (as of the 28th of August) released a generic Version oxycontin. Sizes exclude 30mg. They are also not supported by PBS and are private script.

I have confirmed that with Sandoz customer support and they said that suppliers should have stock by the end of the week.

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Cheers John D appreciate the info, I could go hunting for it myself but just haven't had time. The time I do have spare, is generally when Im buggered & can hardly move because of pain, the last thing i feel like doing is chasing up on all this. I just hope after all this, that my pain increase was the change of formula, not just a coincidence (that its really me getting worse, thats causing the pain spike) To see if I have more damage & spread of disease, I have to have a biopsy & last biopsy I haemorrhaged, so Im in no hurry to do another one. Take care people.

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Dude your obviously not from australia we are getting the original OxyContin back in the 10mg 15mg 20mg 40mg 80mg generic version made by Sandoz and a few other generics are hitting the shelfs very soon. the OxyContin reformfoulated sucks with the "op 80" imprint on them the generics coming out are exactly the same formula as the original OxyContin tablets imprinted with for eg "oc 80" they will be hitting shelves here in Australia between October and December! My doctor has swapped me to MS Contin 100mg tablets twice a day 2x oxynorm 20mg instant release oxycodone capsules with no apap at all and 2x 8mg dilaudid/hydromorphone tablets a day for breakthrough pain and Valium 5mg for back spasm my dr has told me she will switch me back to OxyContin when they like the old ones again! And dude we don't have opana aka oxymorphone here in Australia it's not here yet but atleast we are not stuck with these horrible OxyContin reformulated op imprinted ones like you in the us and other parts of the world they have terrible side effects and don't work properly at all they do not get metabolised in the human body like the old forlmula

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Hey Christine you've really had a bad time of it, im so sorry you went through all of that. I also have some insight first hand of what you went through, not exactly the same but similiar. I was abducted when i was 14 by an absolute nut case- also an addict (find it hard to be sympathetic to them) & he kept me terrified & compliant for over 2 years. My parents looked for me & had police involved, so he made me tell them i had run away & didnt want to go home etc. this guy threatened to kill my family & i believed every word, i saw what he could do to people & he beat me senseless & raped me a lot. One day he invited my parents to see me, we sat in one room & he was in the next room holding a gun pointed at my mum the whole time. I had to be convincing or he would have killed them. I ended up pregnant & had a beautiful little girl, she was 2 months prem & i was really sick- i weighed about 45kg but my daughter although tiny was healthy. She was my champion, she gave me the courage & to get away. One night after a particularly bad beating (broken nose, torn kidney, broken ribs etc.) he was passed out drunk, i grabbed my baby & i ran out the door, & never looked back. My family were like a wall between him & me, he wasn't going to get through & when he came kicking in doors etc, they stood their ground & with the police helping me, i was able to have him sent to jail for a long time. He was let out after 15 years on parole, but 2 days after his release he did an armed robbery & was sent back, he will be a very old man if hes ever released.. my gp has had a thought that all of the abuse might have contributed to the disease i have, but its only a therory. I know what you mean about the court experience, they do make you feel like your in the wrong, when the defendant is painted as being a good person & that i chose to run away etc blah blah. Its wrong!!! You are very strong also chick, i really hope life gets better for you & the doctors can do more to help you. You are the winner with whst happened to you, your the tough one who lived, even though you could have died or had really devastating brain injury, you beat him! That takes guts & strength, that those types of men ( i use that term loosely, these are no real men) are bullies, useless scumbags & they are week as piss-excuse language, we & other women like us are survivors & we fight to live, because we love life, we love our family & friends. I wish you the very best Christine, & hang in there. If you still cant find a pharmacist to stock them, maybe go to your GP or Pain Specialist & ask them to help you find a chemist to dispense the generic. With a doctors backing you up & explaining why you need them, it should fix the problem. Good luck with it Christine, stay strong & enjoy the beautiful things in your life.

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Hey Raf, steer clear of Luka I dont believe hes a pharmacist. You doctor is right to send you to a pain clinic, you need to be ascessed properly & see what can be done to help your pain, there are many options before having to turn to opiates. I have done pretty much all of them as i didnt want to have to take these medications, but i have a rare disease with no treatment or surgery options, im long term palliative care. If your lucky there may be something that can help, i know private are expensive so find out which hospitals in NSW have pain clinics & get yourself to emergency when your levels are out pf control, the doctors will be able to get the pain specialist to help you & get you into the pain clinic. GP's cannot give long term opiate medications without an authority & it needs to be backed by a Pain Specialist, if your pains as bad as your saying you might be able to save enough to visit a private Pain Spec to at least get ascessed, if your unable to get into public clinic. Its not your GP being unkind its the law. You cant ascess your own pain mate, beyond knowing it hurts, & you dont know whats the best course of treatment if your lucky you wont have to take this crap. No one legitiment should have any problems getting the Sandoz Generic Oxycodone modified release. Its been here in Vic pharmacies for 6 weeks & I guess will follow if not already be in other Australian States soon. If you cant get it, speak to your GP & Pain Spec & call Sandoz. Good luck to you all, i wish you the best.

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The old ER OxyContin would dissolve quicker thus got into your system faster. If taken via other methods of administration it released more oxycodone at a faster rate making it a first choice substitute for H users. The NEW ER OxyContin still uses oxycodone in large amounts but the cover makes it dissolve at a slower rate and if tampered with the drug turns mushy and sticky making it harder to liquefy. It's a great drug that does what it claims to do - a slow release of OxyCodone. It's safe, it works and I'm glad it's available

There will never be a generic version of the old OxyContin because it released quickly and easily abused by addicts. Anyone that thinks the new OxyContin is a hoax was probably not using the old Oxy as prescribed. I use the new version and it works great, I have 25 years of pain med experience and when meds are used properly they work fine. Say goodbye to the old OC forever.

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Hey Dox, i know all about these meds & it just depends on the person. My cousin has been on tramadol for years cause of his back which had all sorts of issues & surgery. He has chronic pain & the tramadol works for him. I was really trying to give people options besides the major opiod meds like oxycontin & fentanyl (which i wouldnt touch with a 30 ft pole at this point, thats my one saving grace for when im at the end & pain is out of control) i cant take tramadol as i had a seizure when i was given it in hospital but it doesnt affect everyone like that. The ketamin treatment is used more for those not terminal as it helps give the nerves a break from pain signals & can bring down your dosage of opiot meds. I dont know where you are, but the major hospitals in Melbourne have been using it for about 10yrs, including the Royal Childrens Hospital-where they use it for kids in early chronic pain to switch the pain signals off completely. It sometimes takes a few treatments to work completely but is very effective esp for bone & soft tissue pain. The only time its used for terminal patients is as an extra med at end stage to keep you comfortable, but even then its not used that often. It would be a great option for you Dox esp as you are young & have a long life ahead of you. Id be looking into it, as if you can break the pain signals & cycle to your nerves, you may be able to get off these meds altogether which would be the best thing for you, if your pains controlled. the drugs your talking about like dilaudid & fentanyl are extremely strong & not what you'd want to take for the rest of your life! I cant go onto Targin as it hasnt had any trials in high dosage, & yes it has naltrexone but the naltrexone isnt realeased into your stomach its made to release in your bowel & not into the blood stream so it shouldnt interfere with the med. my doctor is an addictions specialist & knows more about all these drugs than most of the doctors in the world. Hes very highly regarded by even the top pain specialists. Ive had oxynorm but i dont use any breakthrough meds now. I have my dosage 3 times a day, which works much better & keeps my pain more even. Oxycontin is proven to not last 12 hours so taking it 8 hourly has better effect without fluctuations & the need of breakthrough meds. Has your doctor tried putting you on a low dose antidepressant? They are often used as a supportive med in chronic pain. You are on a lot of very heavy drugs Oxy, Valium etc. for a young, reasonbly healthy person & theres may options that may be better for you health wise. If they dont have these options where you live, maybe see if you can be transfered to a major city hospital in your state that will have a big pain department. They can also try nerve blocks & other non opiod treatments, which could make a huge difference to your life. I had an awesome night last night to see in the new year, i hope you did too. Cheers

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I really feel for you Spanky, being in massive pain each day due to cancer or other disease is a terrible way to live. The pressure on your body fighting the disease is bad enough, without having to deal with the pain that comes with it. We are very fortunate in Australia to have governing bodies, that understand not all patients can tolerate the same meds & side effects from the filler ingredients happen & affect people. They put the control of these medications in the hands of the ones who understand them -doctors & pain specialists. I dont know how it works in the US, but here GP's cant prescribe opioids long term without an authority from the PBS which is the equivalent to your FDA, that is renewed each year & changed each time dosage is changed. The GP also needs a recommendation from your pain specialist. Its a good system that prevents a GP doing the wrong thing, & seeing stories of people dying in the US from these meds being given by their doctor unchecked, i dont think you have the same process in place. All i can suggest for you Spanky is to discuss other medications you can take instead of the Oxycontin reformulation. I know there are alternatives available, i hope you are able to take them without any problems (allergy, side effects etc) & they can match the dosage you take, without to much trouble. If you can get others to support you, perhaps sending petitions to your government & FDA pointing out the real truth about these meds, why they were passed at the exact time Purdues patent ran out in each country & how much they're affecting the people they were made for -you & people like you! Id also suggest you rally your doctors & get everyone else to have their doctors contact each other, to assess what is really happening, if anythings to change having a lot of doctors on your side will go a long way in having them listen & respect your concerns. Good luck with everything, I hope you kick that cancers ass, & find a medication that helps control your pain.

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I think that may be incorrect. U may only need an rx that says OxyContin. But sandoz OXYCODONE , isn't that JUST OXYCODONE ? CONTIN means continuo use release.
Straight OXYCODONE would be reg OXYCODONE WITHOUT the time release factor.
There IS a diff between OxyContin and OXYCODONE.
No matter what co. Is making it.
I know thr new formula that came out a few years ago made so many peeps sick, from the new time release factor in it.
Not trying to argue. But many people don't know that oxycodone is normal release take 1-2 every 4 to 6 hours.
OxyContin. ( CONTIN meaning continuos) is take every 10-12 hours or so usually. Depending on your dr.
Iguesswhat I'm saying is, ifur dr. Writes up OXYCODONE that is what u will get, a no time release or non continuous release OXYCODONE.
Just want peeps to get what they need.
Take care

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Hi Sandy, when I read your first post that I responded to, you said the formula was called "oxycodone by sandoz. "
What I was trying to say point out is, " oxycodone by sandoz" doesn't say time release anywhere.
Later in another post you called it
"Oxycodone by sandoz modified release" I just wanted to make sure that people didn't just ask for " oxycodone by sandoz" cuz it doesn't say it's time release, or modified released, or slow release. You were saying to ask fIr just oxycodone.
Nit all people know, that just plain old oxycodone is NOT time release.
Somewhere on the new written prescription it has to say time release or as you say it says on the box, modified release.
Just want to make sure they get want they are wanting, that's all. :)
Hope I'm not confusing people.

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Perhaps the "bad reaction" that killed her was an overdose of oxycodone. She did take 4-5 times her normal dose ... I'm not being unsympathetic, but am being realistic.

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Targin is for opiate addicts so you dont and cant misuse it. The dr knows that the nax in the targin pretty much completly stops the oxycontin from working. Sub and naloxone, ect. are used for opiate withdrawal which doesn't even work. Basically it puts your whole body into instant withdrawls. Even if your not an addict it will hurt a bit. The more you take the worse you feel. It does little for pain if anything. Dr's only prescribe that if you ask for it or he's planning to take you off it or thinks your abusing your tabs.

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Thanx Jay, great info... The hospital I'm going to, the Alfred is really good... I was transferred there after i got MSSA that turned into blood poisoning & septicaemia causing an abscess near my spinal cord & nearly killed me.... Thankfully this operation I'm having was moved from local hospital into the Alfred due to all my complications etc. its the one hospital I can say with certainty takes good care with patients.... & the only one where i haven't had ongoing complications, they really care about you as a person not a number. I had 2 teams caring for me Infectious Diseases & Neuro Spinal Specialists, they were amazing from the minute i arrived, id been in the other hospital for a week with them doing bugger all to save me... My kidneys had shut down, i barely had a blood pressure reading, the infection was rampant & around the abscess infection was eating away the muscle near it...this was 2mm from my spinal chord. As soon as i arrived at the Alfred they had a team of doctors ready, bags of blood etc & the right antibiotics to start me on, & operated 8 hours later to remove dead tissue & abscess... I don't remember much of it, but was told later. I spent 3 weeks in hospital there & another 2 months of hospital in the home on IV antibiotics, i don't know what the hell was going on at Frankston but they could well have killed me if i wasn't transferred then. Im really glad they decided its to hard an op for them & I'm so happy with my surgeon at the Alfred I just saw... Didn't even think about tablets for stay there until this weeks bugger up. Pleased in a way as thats the last thing id need... on top of them struggling with pain control as it is for me when having surgery. I hope your ok now Jay, what did you have done?

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Hi Sandy, there should be conflict of interest between the three meds. Lyrica is a anti-seizure medication that can help with chronic pain but you can knock if off if you want to as it will make you feel very tired, over time it accumulates. The Panadol Osteo you get 'over the counter' so don't need a script, so only the Oxycontin is of interest to them and three 80mg is quite reasonable. Try and opt to stay on this, even without the Lyrica if you have too (which seems a bit nuts to me...) DO NOT let them change you to Methadone. I too, know what you are talking about. Tell them you have been on it in the past and you are 'allergic' to it, that it made you feel awful and that you are settled nicely on the current dose of Oxy and you never want any increase but are happy on this current dose. That should satisfy the powers that be. Good luck. Why not tell your nice doctor how stressed this made you feel and see if he will reassure you it will all be OK. Do you see a pain specialist? Might be a good idea then they have to follow his directions. Good Luck.
Cheers
ps...I agree that Jeanie should do all in her power to help herself, you, myself and Michelle are all trying to help her find the strength within needed.

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Dear P450,

Thank u so very much for that. It appears that only u and I suffer for this condition on this forum. I have an auto immune disease, still not sure if I am type 1 or 2 but I know, I am one of them.

I cried as I read the symptoms. I thought the hair growth one was funny but sadly true, the hair on my legs has stopped growing. The condition sounds exactly like what I have. What I don't understand is why had my gp and my pain clinic doctor did not even pick it up. The best solution for me, so they tell me is to get off pain medication altogether.

I have told then about my legs and the kind of pain I feel. So they do know everything.

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It is ONLY in the USA that Oxycontin (& countries served by Purdue Frederick) that the awful gummy 'OP' 'EX' and 'CDN' rubbish is sold. Here in Europe there are no changes to original brand which is made by Bard & distributed by Napp and Mundipharma. I believe Canada calls it OXYNEO but there are so many places to get normal 'OC' pills I dont know why all people needing REAL OC do not get them from other countries. As far as I know only the US has banned real Oxycontin. Also the purple 120mg tablets have never been sold there in any form, the old oblong blue 160mg were withdrawn worldwide over ten years ago. However my advice is simply find a pharmacy outside of the States or Mexico. Real OC are sold in Canada alongside the Purdue garbage. I have been prescribed Oxycontin for almost 15 yrs so know what I am on about.

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