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I found Subutex in my daughter's room with a needle. Do people really IV this? Why do people take it that dont need it?

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Wife of 27 year old addict. Unlike mostly everyone on this forum who keeps saying the naloxone is a blocker, it's actually the buprenorphine that's the blocker. I've been swapping between the two until I recently got into a doctor. I can tell you the only difference is that Suboxone gives me a severe migraine. Like lights out absolutely not even a whisper, cause my head will start throbbing and I will vomit. Subutex doesn't do this to me. I take it the way my doctor medically prescribes how to take it.

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John thank you. I've finally came across someone whom actually knows what there talking about. Yes I hope lots of people in this forum learned a lesson when they read your message. I hate because people are asking for Subutex which is 3.50 a pill at my pharmacy versus Suboxone which is 14.00 dollar's. Now couldn't it be possible that some just simply can't afford to pay for the Suboxone? I actually have been sharing my husband Subutex because its so hard to actually find a doctor whom is taking new patients. However last month I got into a doctor and was given Suboxone. I've suffered severe migraines. Also a rash all over my arms and legs. So I'm hoping I can get him to make the change for me.

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Who the hell cares about spelling and all this bull**** . Answer the damn question. That's all people care about, IDC how u sound. you answer my question ..then cool thanks ! ****ing people man....

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Damn Joshua, you're stronger than you think! You sound like a very smart kid and I hope you find your way. Don't kill yourself. Have you tried weaning off?

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I tried to quit cold turkey. Two weeks later the effects just got worse. I was having severe muscle cramps. The pain was so bad I decided to run through a sheetrock wall... several times. Did nothing but bruise myself. I hadn't any sleep in 3 days. I was getting severally depressed. The rls was brutal. I was rocking back and forth in the fetal postion like a nut job crying and begging God to make it stop. No energy. I tried to get exercise several times and could not breath after five steps, sunshine, etc. I always found ways to help reduce with perc WD. But not with sub WD. It was hell on earth. I broke and started looking. And I Also decided I will just kill myself if I ever have to to that again. I can't handle that, I'm just to weak. I understand why so many people kill them selves after quitting. The depression is horrible to. But the pain. I would just rather die. I'm tired of this life. I have been doing drugs since the age of 11. started with pot like most, did coke at 13 pill addiction at 15. I'm 22 now. And I'm not some bum or lazy junkie. I consider myself a very smart person. When I was 9 my dad and I worked together building house. I did that with him for a decade. I took the money from that and started studying my true passion. Electrical engineering. I bought myself several college textbooks on the matter. I had a 2 year college education self taught understanding at the age of 13. By the time I was 15 I was building complex logics systems. Built a calculator that could add, subtract, divide, multiply and turn it out into a LCD screen. The circuit was these ten 1x1 foot homemade motherboards on top of each other. Took Me three months of building, failure, couple fires on two of the boards and then success. It worked. I was so proud of myself, and again I was oy 15 when I built this massive system that is on intergrated circuits the size of a dime. Thing was heavy. Really gave Mr a aphreachiation of our small tech. Then CE the pills. Around that time my only girlfriend that I have ever had broke up with me, tore me apart. I started pills and got adicted. Got depressed and stopped most of my study's to chase the high. Through my dream and passion out the window, well also because I. Still to this day, cab not get funds for college. About a two years ago I started ti do sub. Managed to grow up some and get out of my depression. I started my study's up again. Scared TNG. Because I was horrified I would not be able to build and troubleshoot complexes system that I could have at a young age. And those feats partially came true. Took a couple months to get on track. Now I gave taught myself how to do micro electronics. I am having a blast working under my microscope. I'm trying to start up a logic board repair buissness. I fix Mac books on the side as well. Mostly water damage, no backlight, etc. I always have to troubleshoot the logic board and fix it under the microscope because the pieces are as big as a grain of dust. I fix issues apple says ate impossible to fix ir they charge $1200 and delete your data. Where I fix the same issue for $0.12 and you keep your data for a quarter of their price. Ape is the worst company, ever. They treat pair like crap. I'm also making it possible to mail your Mac books in. But my location is the worst for local businesses nor is it booming. Infact it is almost a joke. I wish I lived in a city and not in the middle of the woods in Tennessee. But I digress. Point I'm making is, even though I am a wonderful jack of all traces, u take prude in my work and try to do the best job for my customers. Be it building a house or advanced circuit troubleshooting and all this i have done only being 22. I would blow my head off if I had to go through that again. I'm just to weak. I hate typing on the phone. I can imagine the typos. I don't know what to for. I just want this nightmare to end.

-Joshua

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If they won't put an effort in to type better than a ten year old, and make it comprehendible. Then I'm not going to put in the effort to decode it. And I can tell if it's not their native tongue and they f*** up. I will put in a great effort to decode. Then I give them advice and encouragement, all because they tried and actually care. If someone doesn't care about their sentence structure then I don't care what they have to say. Communication is what puts us above other species and our tools. It is what built this world up. You may not care. But I do. Don't step all over it and disrespect it. It is part of us.

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I have been clean for a year and 3 months and NO BODY WILL STOP UNTIL THEY R READY JUST STAND BY HER AND SUPPORT HER AND GET HER HELP.BUT DON'T PUSH OR SHE WILL PUSH AWAY. I AM ONLY 25 & DID HEROIN FOR 7 years. I am just now losing my cravings without being on ANYTHING I WILL PRAY 4 YALL....

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I am not a doctor but have had many years dealing with opiates whether personal use or friends using. I have heard of friends abusing subutex. Haven't witnessed it or done so. I think it is ridiculous to use a medicine that is made to help and reduce the withdrawal of opiates as a way to feel high. I prefer suboxone strips because it does block any opiates from reaching your receptors. Furthermore making using pointless. Best of luck to anyone fighting addiction. It is a hell of a disease!

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Yes but it is horrible for your veins. Can lead to horrible blood circulation and things associated with that.

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Hey, if i have to get drug tested, how long will Subutex stay in your body?

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Hi Brenden i know this may be too late but was hoping you might be able to provide some suggestions to me in my situation. Please let me know. Thank you

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This coming from someone who talks about electrocution as an acceptable reaction to having their meds taken away. Please don't write such a long post criticizing people for writing ridiculous s***, then turn around & fit right in with them. You only make yourself around like an angry misguided person.

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understand I'm about 4 years late, but it depends on the amount you do together. ive tried all manner of them, and found out that if you take an oxy FIRST, THEN take a Boxe or Subutex it just intensifies the effect but is seriously dangerous and rough on your liver. if you take the 'Boxe or 'Tex first, THEN take an oxy the oxy will be nothing but a waste. the 'Tex and 'Boxe have some blocker in them that makes the opiate not reach the receptors(know i'm not being very 'medical' but this is just how I remember the Dr. explaining it, but that was also years ago). I've been on either 'Boxe or 'Tex, one or the other, for almost 5 years now and haven't touched an opiate or even felt the NEED to want one. but the one thing I have noticed after taking them this long is i'm not nearly as happy as I used to be and simple things send me into depression. this may be a mixture of personal things but I had personal problems before I was on them for that long and never became insanely depressed. it isn't an 'ALL the time' thing, but it does seem to happen more often than it did before when I was taking, at the LEAST, 5 Oxy 30mg's a day. Suboxone saved my life in a way, but I haven't been able to ween myself off of those though..... yet. we'll see.

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Does anyone know if subutex from Mexico is in a blue pill form?

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Hey, if I take subutex how long would it last for me?

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The difference between suboxone and subutex is that suboxone is a formulation of Buprenorphine and Naloxone. Subutex is just the buprenorphine. Naloxone is what they give you when you're overdosing to knock the opiates out of you which is why using opiates very closely to taking suboxone can make you sick. Naturally you can deduce that the subutex which has no naloxone is safe to use in conjunction with any other opiate.

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STOP just STOP !! Are any of you posters out of grade school yet? I don't think I've read this many illiterate posts in all my life. I would be embarrassed if I wrote like that. You're giving advice but you can't spell or form a sentence. The thought is nice but if the reader isn't able to make out what you wrote all is lost.

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Where does the pregnancy fit in? "Look dear, I found a needle and a white pill in Daphne's room. Go buy a pregnancy kit, she may be pregnant."

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People do abuse it, however it's not as effective or safe. She may have the needle for other drugs and the suboxone when she comes down.

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You will only go into withdrawals if you're still high from opiates.

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