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Subutex puts me into withdrawal when i take it to early. I think its because i have been doing massive amounts of dope for a very long time. Subs used to work for me, they would get me well right away, But now on the first day to 3 days kicking dope, the sub doesnt help. And i take 2 of them. i know it does not have naloxone in it but it definitely blocks it still somehow because i have done dope after doing a subutex and i dont feel s***, not even get well. You guys do know that this has everything to do with each individual person. Yes most of us are the same for the most part but a lot of us are very different. Like my friend, when he is sick, subs get him groovin! But me, nope! Throws me into WORSE withdrawals. I usually have to wait until day 2 to take a sub without it f***ing me up bad.... I have no idea what happen to me because i remember when sub first came around, them good ole octagon pills! the originals!!! and i would take one and be groovin! i know from experience that it varies from person to person!
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Sober joe Says:
You are clean. Your telling me taking subs is like ****ing h! You are clean congratulations and stay strong. It's people like you that really piss me off!
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Darron Says:
I absolutely understand where your coming from. I've been an opiate addict for as long as I can remember and your only "clean" when you cut EVERYTHING out. I've been addicted to opiates and then started taking subutex and there's no difference....obviously your not subject to dangerous scenarios when your opiate dealer is your f***ing pharmacist. I actually went a year clean until about a month ago and i had pride in not using any 'maintenance' drugs like methadone, suboxone, or subutex. Anyone who has been severely addicted and then become clean with no substitutes knows. And I assume would agree as well. Try changing your lifestyle for better results rather than changing your drugs... There's a word for when you expect different results from the same actions - INSANE. No seriously, look it up.
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lords Says:
Alyssa is 100% correct but as our will power can be misguiding to us and us alone some are depended on advice from posts from the internet and or people and books now days the meaning of "CLEAN" can be added in to the class of a "white lie" is which has to meanings and in the eyes of the law is called "under treatment". peace...lords2112
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Nick Says:
Re: mgw (# 14) 
Being "clean" isn't a specific condition from person to person. Addiction doesn't come in one form for everyone. Being clean to you can mean one thing where it can mean other things to other people. So yeah technically if you put any kind of drug in your body then it's not clean...but clean to me is not putting a needle in my body. What you say...think...or do doesn't mean shish without action. Criminal is another one of those words that has different meanings. Don't be jello or butt hurt cause you cold turkey quit and others chose not to suffer. If both y'all have the same result then what's it matter? ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT THE RESULTS ARE... EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT...THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
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Jimbo Says:
Re: Alyssa (# 20)
Caffeine is mood altering also. So that coffee ya just drank this morning makes you "unclean" lol
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Cricket Lee Says:
Well Tom...
I believe in informing the ones who asks for help and informing the ones who are misinformed. I don't believe in answering in a condescending Smartass way 'Goofy'. Everyone came here for for the same reason...Answers. Not to be called names and talked down to. If anyone's is an I....It would be Y.
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Matt Says:
Here is another one of these people that do not know what their talking about. Not everyone is the same. That is what makes the world go around. Some people need to be on a maintenance program, some not. So if you are on a maintenance program and are staying clean from ANY illicit drug use, you are clean. Your life will change beyond your wildest dreams. Keep up the good work and stay clean, sober is the only way to live!
Matt
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Shanan Says:
I totally agree with you. Whenever you rely on any controlled substance you are addicted. I am currently on Sub's and I have a hell of a time finding them because I don't have health insurance. At 20.00 a pop my budget is rather slim! I take 1/2 a sub a day. I take them for the energy and of coarse, they lighten my mood!! Denial has never been my problem. I use them because they make me feel good. If I was really CLEAN, I would rely on God for my happy place, not some stupid drug. This is January, a good time to work the steps. I want to do the right thing, but it is hard to ween MYSELF off. I't shouldn't be to hard with my small daily intake. (should it??)
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Anne Marie Says:
No! the film dissolves under ur tongue, if u throw it out u won't get ur full dosage.
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Dirk Says:
If you intend to ingest methadone after suboxone you will be fine, it does not cause precipitated withdrawal.
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Kev Says:
You can use opioids after you take a sub, no problem. Might not feel the best though..However, Never take a sub right after the use of opiods. Please, please, from personal experience, it sucks.
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Trip Says:
I am trying this medicine to stop a twenty-five year addiction to pain medicine. I just took the first one. I'm not high. It stopped my accute pain, but I feel okay. No high, maybe, a little bit sedated. That's it! I sure hope that it works. I want to stop taking all drugs!!! God bless you, All!!!
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Greg Says:
EXTREMELY HARMFUL TO MIX ANY OPIOID WITH BENZOS SUCH AS VALIUM, XANAX, ATIVAN, KLONOPIN ETC. ETC.
ALMOST ALL OXY AND BUPRENORPHINE OVERDOSES ARE CAUSED BY MIXING BENZOS AND OPIOIDS.
Don't be stupid, stupid.
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Casey Says:
@Post #26,
Goofy is like saying silly. I dont believe that's name calling. My wife calls me silly all the time with good reason lol and I do not find it offensive. Maybe if you were called retarded or stupid or many others it would be offensive just saying.
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Annie Says:
It will help and feel as if it's a miracle drug! Then go about about a week and taper down and you're a new person! Trust me!
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jake Says:
I just got on the subutex and i take it in 2 doses (half in am and the other half at about 7 at night) and it does me good all day.
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Jst4fnlfs2shrt Says:
He's right, taking methadone with subutex is o.k., but I still wouldnt recommend it. Naloxone is the opiate blocker. Which is found in suboxone, not subutex. I would really suggest you noto mix the two, but if you do just make sure it's not the suboxone and the methadone. Because all you'd be doing is wasting the methadone and I'm pretty sure it would make you very sick.
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B right Says:
they don't you try to get off of them withdrawal bad doc no like they are the real pushers make money me no spell good lol jokes on us
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Adb Says:
Wow. What is wrong with you? I have been on suboxone for 6 plus years and methadone before for 5-8! The methadone when I detoxed down to one mg then finished made me crazy.. I heard things, I ended up in a psych ward. The suboxone is ok but I had surgery in 2015 to remove my gallbladder and the dr messed up and I didn't take any sub. For a few days before that I ended up on life support and about died. The only meds I could get to help was fentanyl. It was truly horrible. I haven't taken any drugs in so long and for u to talk s*** to all these people is just wrong. Hurray, you're clean, clean but I def. see that I can function perfectly on sub where as on 180mg of methadone I couldn't. The only downside is if anyone has pain like surgery I would advise to get on the subutex without the naloxone.
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