Which Is Stronger 15mg Ms Contin Or 15mg Oxycodone (Page 2)
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I wonder what the difference is between 15MG MS Contin vs 15 Mg Oxycodone. Is there a substitute for MS Morphine..I take 2 30mg MS Contin twice a day and also with that I take 15MG MS Contin twice per day..which of course is 45mgs at a time..with 3 15mg Oxcodone for breakthru pain. I was taking 20 mg Oxycontin 3 times a day etc. But my insurance wasn't paying for the oxy. So what I take now is paid for. Do any of you have any suggestions of what would work better for the pain..since I changed to morphine it doesn't seem to do the trick..this is long..but any answers would be very appriciated..Thanks..

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They manufacture 5mg 10 mg 15 mg20mg and 30mg of oxycodone immediate release. The 625 is Tylenol which is horrible for your live.

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I got one for you guys. I have degenerate disk, osteoarthritis from sI (tailbone)-L4 and bursitis in my left hip. My pain is mid lower back shooting to the left side going down my rear and off and on down my left leg. I had a the nerves cut and burned year and half ago and it helped manage my pain with hydrocodone. This past summer I could tell the nerves had grown back. My PM Dr said he's getting out of "long term pain care" after being treated for 2 years and referred me to another dr. So this new Dr wants to do the same procedure. My plan was to get pain where I can bare it so I can do some physical therapy to at least get my core stronger to help with my back. However my hip Dr said exercise is bad with bursitis. So as a mother of 4 I have no choice but to keep moving so I went with having the nerves cut and burned again and figured oh well I'll just have this done every year. Well this time it didn't work. Maybe since it's a different Dr. My pain is horrible and now vs tingling in just my hamstring it's down to my smaller toes and they get straight up numb and don't get me started on the spasms and all the falling I've done since then. My follow up was only a week later. I told him I wasn't feeling any better yet. 4 weeks later I had another follow up and confused I told my Dr I don't feel any better, maybe worse. So he says the same thing as the Dr who referred me, he's getting out of "long term" pain care. He said he was going to refer me yet he didn't and I got busy planning my kids father's funeral and holidays. So on my next visit I told him all that happened. He did not act sympathetic at all. He only told me btw if you keep seeing me, I'm going to wing you off your pain meds starting today. I asked if that is protocol, he fails on a back procedure and vs fixing it knowing he did nerve damage making it worse, he's going to take me off pain meds too?

Seems harsh and to me he just wanted the thousands for the surgery and oh well for me he messed me up worse. What these so called doctors don't get is that those of us with high blood pressure, our pain level is what's going to kill us. I'm sure 180/110 is not healthy. And I don't drink so there is no knocking off the edge any other way. Yes aleve, advil work great. But they take so long to work and I have chipped 2 teeth biting down in pain. Everything was fine until couple years ago and all these dope heads started trying to feel high. I get the stopping letting people use multiple Dr and pharmacy, that's what was killing the addicts, not the doctors. I have read so many people's statements on different sites, these doctors are running scared. My 1st Dr was great. He cared and honestly I got chocked up I was losing him as a dr. I can't say for that Dr. These others are not trying to help, only make that money off of procedures/surgeries that çan make you worse and then cut you off your meds. After telling you that you have to use a cane the rest of your life at the age of 39 and issue you a handicap plaque how are they just going to stop treating you after the first thing they try on you? These chats are good for info and knowing your not alone but what are we going to do to take a stand. The dopers are still going to get theirs somehow but what about us truly in pain? Is there any kind of group out there fighting for us?

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Sort of a similar history in reverse. I had a hip done in 07, ended up with new leg longer than the other and instantly had back pain. Hip Doc blamed my back, others blamed hip...nobody accepts any blame. Anyway as my posts say, I had fusion in 09. Did jot work. Been on oxycontin since then... in June of this year I had a TENS unit implanted. They could not get the leads in the right place, so the stimulation cannot go below my upper chest..useless sadly. Not Docs fault, he is great....I had high hopes. So...now using an OTC TENS unit and have managed to resist higher doses of meds for three years now but is a tough road at times. It is a never ending slope so be very careful about increasing doses....

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The pharmacy CVS carries the med. But only the free standing pharmacy. Not the little ones inside of other stores.

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Sorry about your cronic pain. Been there myself. What you really NEED is a NEW DR. if you continue on this path you better start planning your funeral. I dont know where you live and what access you have to good Dr's but you need to find a new Dr. And get the problem fixed.

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I have been handicapped since I was 40 and I am 53 now. I had back surgery in 2001 and had my right hip replaced in 2007. I live in excruciating pain every day and I am not going to get any better. I can't believe how very difficult it is to get a pain medicine that works because it is a narcotic. If there is nothing that can help you get a little bit of relief what does it matter if you get addicted. I have been on morphine for pain at least 8 years and doctors are afraid to give you anything stronger. What are they afraid of?

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Good news..so far...I am a long time poster here after a failed Fusion in 2009. Last week I had a trial unit Implanted Tens installed (Boston Scientific) and so far I am seeing impressive results. I have been on 20mg OxyContin ever 8 with 5mg Oxycodone in between for years...and I am already certain I can start cutting that back very soon ! If one is of the type that can live with a Tens, it is a very healthy switch move for sure. Quite pricey, but covered by most insurance. Next week they remove the unit..then after a few days implant the controller under the skin, and I use a remote to adjust it at my discretion.

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Its all morphine in different forms....time release mostly.

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I was taking 10/325 hydro's every 6 hours and now the Doc has prescribed 1 MS Contin 15 MG 3 times a day, is this equivilant to the Hydro

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Take a higher dose. Say ms contin 10mg q 8 hrs. I'm sure that will help. Ask your doctor.

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I'm sorry to say...there are very few good pain docs out there...I had one accuse me of taking suboxone with oxy 30s...I drove home and for all the suboxone I did not take and he still was very rude to me...said it was not logical...not everything needs to be logical...the docs are getting really nervous to give these meds with the FDA crackdown...I know 7 that were just arrested for selling scripts...over a million in a year...so you can talk as honestly as you want...docs will just say its not good to take that much medication...I hope you can find a good one...I was in a terrible car accident and its a chore for me to walk, stand, sit, lay, etc...and this doc I see does not get my pain at all...I have been totally honest with him...

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Well, better open a pharmacology book if you're a nurse! I'm a nurse and oxycontin is NOT short action morphine, or morphine at all! It's long acting oxycodone (Percocet without Tylenol) fyi, most of all the long acting opiates now have abuse deterrent fillers, epoxy, plastic, etc that do not work as the old ones did, and cause many sensitivities! For long acting, go w the fentanyl patches. Soon, thanks to our government involvement all pain meds will be useless! Many are made in India, China, etc without proper regulations and that's what our people get! Research it, and join the rally to congress petitions some of us have started! It's not only pain meds either, some of these factories don't even have hand washing facilities! Our FDA needs to hear from chronic pain patients and get out of our doctors business! The number of suicides due to this have increased, especially the elderly! This is the most un american sick mess I've seen in 27yrs of nursing! Pain is real, addiction and dependency are different! This stereotypical attitude is the same as our mental health system, BROKEN!

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Oxycontin is a time released oxycodone ms contin is time released morphine

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Sadly it is very true that the cold and wet winters are really tough for us chronic pain folks. I moved to Oregon couple years ago and man did I find out. I am now about to undergo a procedure to implant two TENS wires and a transmitter in my spine.
A new version of an old system. Pain Doc is quite confident it will reduce pain and meds by a substantial number. I hope so. As with most of us, the pain has gotten consistently worse since my first post here about 5 years ago. All the result of a fusion of L5-S1 that only made things get much much worse. Am currently on 20mg OxyContin every 8, with 5 mg Oxycodone in between as needed..( always needed)

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Insurance won't pay for 2 Ms cotton 100 mg per day what can I have the Dr perscibe me that will be close to that I need help just to get by each day

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Sorry, but as my doctor says, you cannot by fed. Law be taking two Instant Relief pain medications. This is why you read so many say I take MS Contin ( extended release Morphine ) w/ like a percoset, a hydrocodone based mixture that is IR, like not I, vicodin, etc.. Just thought I would being that to the table, I hope it helps, me I just take 6* 15mg oxycodone IR. I should be taking the doctors advice & take the MS Contin twice daily and only take an Oxycodone 15mg. Instant Release a fewtimesdaily as needed for breakthrough pain, I can say beyond a doubt, one would get better overall pain relief, no need to take Advil, or alve for extra OTC help. I don't wish to become addicted to Morphine as well & god knows it's hard enough just trying to secure my current 6* daily of oxycodone Instant Release 15mg. I have had the morphine & trust me for long term relief & more if a complete overall, longer lasting & less expensive, & also only taking two daily being that's 24 hours round the clock pain relief, each month I say no I cannot accept the help which I know also each month their will be days I said screw it & if the side effects ( being another addictive medication ) I often wish I would at least accepted the RX & not being in pain that is not covered by the 6* oxycodone even though it's 6* daily, in time they just stop being as effective & this is 99% why people end up on both an instant release & a extended release, but one doctor cannot write an RX for two medications that areInstant Release & also by the way, nothing taking orally is instant releae maybe 15-20 minutes you may begin to get a Lil relief but I just keep on where I'm at & tell myself, I DONT NEED YET ANOTHER PILL THAT MY BODY WILL EVENTUALLY BE BACK TO WHERE IM AT NOW & then all mg.'s.. Would slowly go up & up, I'm not an addict as the science evens looks at it, but I'm am dependent on the Lil relief I get taking just an IR.. Well, I hope this helped you & others as well, if anyone has a doctor that does prescribe both two types of IR, be careful because he or she is breaking the law & at anytime you could loose this doctor due to his or her utilizing the proper & legal ways of treating chronic pain. Best of luck, it's TRULLY ashamed we cannot just legally grow our own poppies for pain relief, but that would be illegal as well huh, how we are so controlled in today's modern society, & only Uncle Sam, can legally import poppies & or the straw from which they make these medications even the semi synthetic ones which would also be oxycodone, it's made w/ the opium poppy plants alkaloid Thebaine & it is looked at as being a true opiate, which is not the case, morphine is the main & most active alk. In this plant but technology is so down pat that they have genetically altered a poppy to either grow one or the other poppy plants w/ either larger levels of Thebaine or large amounts of Morphine, the badinage given to opiates is that of abuse & bulls*** to the people's, they want to control our every move, thought, & if your one not to than off to the slammer for you, s*** Thomas Jefferson use to grow both medicinal hemp & opium poppies right their in his home in Monticello ( northern Virginia mountains ) but the DEA even raided it a few years back for just as they always have done is plant a more visual poppy garden w/ poppies most used for the appearances & to recreate what it was like when he was in his home, because as skid & taking field trips to Monticello, there was always the poppies planted each year to show & cold illy beautify the land around the house & long winding porch & views of their garden. We cannot let our nation be owned by major corporations & drug company ( legal ones of course ) be ran by thugs in suits & ties & their Lil doughnut Lil blue dressed friends or should I say sheep, that march, & destroy by the command of whats now, the modern world, we treat our animals w/ better love & sympathy for pain than our own loved ones, the humans that found this most miraculous of plants, their is a book about it having been what is today posed as Aspirin but in the early two & a half decades of the 1900's we were allowed to grow our own medicine for pain but if you can control & tax & profit from something nearly everyone suffers from every now & then & that's pain, you control it & it's cures, well you control a entire world & nation. Good luck to everyone that TRULLY suffers from chronic pain & to all you phonies out there abusing these miracle drugs that help us in chronic pain to be able to even get up & around & live a more productive & free life, I REALLY WANT TO STRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE FEW DOCTORS OUT THEFE THAT ARE NOT SCATED OF BIG BROTHER & his threats to all in the medical profession, they gotta sell all the opiates being secretly flown into our country & thus why so many turn to it, because their doctors won't prescribe a legitimate form of pain relief & here in America ( I promise I would & have never tried or even seen it ) but it's just a tweaked out version of morphine having been put on steroids to say the least, we must & I stress this understand that opiates once in nearly every household in the early 1900's like aspirin is to our medicine cabinets of today. I have lived all over the US & the good poppies do & still grow in the wild, & trust me if we were able to grow our on foods & medical herbs & other healing herbs, corporate America & the foundation which supports it would crumble & the profit loss from arrests made, or finding a good doctor w/ whom you can talk to to get a piece of paper that if your on a tight budget your not going to be able to afford it & honestly as sad as it is, THE CRUEL WORLD DOES NOT CARE!!!! Be Good & God Bless America, I hope that all these laws will soon & one day be looked at as barbaric & stupid as they are, doctors take a hypothetic Oath & the first few words state that no patient should have to suffer in or from pain in a world of the science we have & opiates available to treat pain, trust me this is very very big business & it's only getting worse as each day out rights are being taken from us directly from under our feet, AMERICA WAKE UP!!!

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I am an addict who has been in recovery for 14 Years and over the course of those years I have informed my pcp and any other medical professional of my prior addiction including the fact that I have been clean for 14 years and would like their help with my medical needs without narcotics if at all possible. But even real addicts have real pain. I'm not saying the others are not drug seeking but not all of us are as addicts. In the last four and a half months I have been in REAL pain brought on by spinal stenosis and two discs are completely disintegrated and I have a herniated disc pressing the sciatic nerve in between two bones that are trying to fuse themselves together. That creates a lot of pain and I am working with my PCP, a neurosurgeon and pain clinic professional to control my pain even with narcotics under supervision. We have used some non narcotic solutions some work some don't. Even though I have to take narcotics to control my pain I take only what I am prescribed when I am prescribed. I only take as many as the prescription allows. So not all junkies are drug seeking a lot of us are in real pain looking for a solution without getting hooked again

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Brain tumor 88 & Cervical spinalcord neck surgery 97, damage c-5.6.7 nerves. Was like gasoline was on me burning, was not relieved with meds completely. I development drop foot 1st. & forced to use cane. Worked awhile astrophy of muscles & balance too became a huge problem. & had use loft strand canes. With 5 kids @ time. Really fought to be mobile.Then lost balance more & legs stretching out & shaking because were so much spaticity. Began falling down became daily then over & over. Broke both shoulder rotor cuffs, now forced to use wheelchair. Long long long story shortened. Had many many diff meds Which none completely relieved pain. So for SOME of you here. IF your in such pain as you say. You'd be happy with some relief to let it be more tolerable. But MANY of you are just pumping us suffering from pain, for info about the best kinda drugs, for u to take or sell. Which makes it more & more difficult for people who really need it. Because doctors r becoming more & more strict on prescribing pain meds. Today I'm quadriplegic with pain pump & list mile long of health trouble. With pain level always high & am glad to get it to about a 6 or 7. So for all of you suffering from SCI, Cancer, diseases & list goes on & on. GOD BLESS YOU & never give up & for the junkies, it WILL catch up on you. & if you ever do got to REALLY need chronic pain meds the chance they will work for you. WONT. Sincerely

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Not sure if this help but I take 10mg OxyContin twice daily and was taking endone but my pharmacy ran out of it and gave me oxy norm telling me they were the same except capsules instead of tablets and its work outstandingly on me chronic pain. I only take one now fourth hourly if needed plus I started nuraphen again as I had my nerves burnt and its unsettled but yeah try Oxynorm

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Clock watcher are in pain. Learn something about chronic pain, they have learned to deal with it. They are not going to be in acute distress. And maybe laughing and visitors are a good distractions. Maybe an 8 is the best they will ever get at, and they watch the clock because they are trying to stay on top of it before it becomes a 10.

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