Which Is Stronger: 30 Mg Of Morphine Sulphate Er Or 10 Methadone (Page 6)
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I am in a confusing debate with my ex husband: Which is stronger, 30 mg of morphine sulfate E.R or 10 mg of methadone?

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For anyone coming across this thread in future the following link may be useful. Its a very detailed conversion.
compassionandsupport.org/pdfs/professionals/pain/methadone_dose_conversion_guideline.pdf

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I don't know where this person has got their information but it is completely WRONG! And potentially dangerous.Please do not listen to this person! The type of morphine and dosage will affect the conversion. For example - Oral methadone to oral morphine is roughly 2 to 3 times stronger i.e the METHADONE is 2 to 3 times stronger than the MORPHINE. Methadone also has a longer half life, making it easier to overdose. Please do your research when looking for conversion and remember that many factors like route of administration, whether time released, tolerance, frequency of dose etc will all make a difference. There are online conversion charts - please use them. Double check your equations and run them by a friend to make sure! Most of all - don't listen to ignorant comments like this one!!

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I totally agree with everything you have said. I have had 4 surgeries on my spine. I have hardware in my spine both upper and lower,neck, left ankle and my right big toe. And I know that know one knows how extreme my pain is better than me. I am now on 100 mg of morphine tablets. It really pisses me off when a Dr. Tries to make me feel like im lying about my pain as if though he is actually feeling it. Therefore, I immediately inform the Dr. that I willl not be back and I make sure he understand, that he isnt the only pain Dr.

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You are so wrong orally hydrocodone is stronger than morphine. Morphine has a s*** oral bioavailability of 20% to 35% hydrocodones is 80 to 90%and metabolizes into morphine anyway. Morphine. Sucks unless iv worthless. Methadone oral bio is 80 to 90% and 100mg is stronger than 1000mg yes thousand of morphine

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Not so... Where do you get your pharmacy info? If you are going 30 mg of morphine, the equivalent would be 3 mgs of methadone.

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You are wrong about the half-life of both these drugs. Both are MUCH shorter. Look it up on PubMed or other online opiate charts on medical sites

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Find a pharmacy that perscribes medications to hospice facilities

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WRONG ...I'M ON BOTH OF THESE MEDS & BY FAR METHADONE IS MUCH STRONGER.

METHADOSE (LIQUID CHERRY):
1 PER 10 mgs
50mgs 3x day

MORPHINE: 1 PER 20 mgs
20mgs 3x day
EVERYONE'S METABOLISM DIFFERS THOUGH.

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I can't find a pharmacy that'll fill my long-running scripts for methadone HCL and morphine sulphate IR this month 1/25/14. What to do?

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BTW, I DO NOT RECALL EXPLAINING YOUR POST I WAS SIMPLY STATING MY OPINION, WHICH, THE LAST I RECALL WAS ONE OF MY RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. Have a nice day, sounds like you need to add a "happy pill" to your concoction of meds!

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Yes, I do. I am an RN, have been for 23 years. Served in the US Air Force for 20 of them. Btw, what is alladid? Or did you mean something differently. The half life for hydrocodone is approximately 6-8 hrs depending on your body's metabolic process and morphine has a longer half life of 8-10 hrs again depending on individual metabolism.

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thank you verry verry much !

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I have the same problem and switched to MS morphine (time release) with 0 problems.

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Same boat here my friend! They will only write me 30 mgs a day here in Alabama. I've been on MD now for 10+yrs woth no dorty ua's I n 4 yrs. Also have DDD and got the same reaction when I said that I javent had a new MRI in bout 10yrs. Duh, its called Degenerative! ! Ugh! These doctors need to walk a mile in mine! Then tell me that I will just have to bear it!!

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I hope no one misunderstood me. Methadone is then it at all good as a pain reliever.
It is unfortunately that it is starting to be prescribed more.
Hydromorphone works best for me.
Oxymorphone is also excellent, except it only cam in 1 and 1 1/2 mg injections for years. Before that (60's) they came in 10 mg blue tabs...mistakenly called blue morphine by street addicts.
Now that are back around. Called Opana and come in narcotic tolerant doses.

TANYA....DO NOT EXPLAIN MY POSTS.
I never once said or alluded that morphine was stronger then Methadone
Just looking at the half life of both drugs....it would make no sense to say that.
If I did....I should not be on this forum giving advise.
I have a medical background. (not a CNA) Do you?

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I take topamax for migraines works great been on everything as far as doans go im at 80mgs a day plus perc 10/325 for breakthrough pain works well l4/l5 problems for 6yrs mich pain doc started me on everything best was fetanyl patch but they are very expensive without insurance

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I've been receiving the Botox shots for migraines for almost a year. I was having 20+ migraines/mth. I'm down to maybe 1-2/mth now! I'm an avid believer plus if you have crows feet or wrinkles in your forehead, Botox will rid these automatically! Two birds, one stone!!!

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I was just prescribed Morphine 30mg x 2 on Friday. I was on Vicodin 10mg 6 times a day with Percocet for breakthrough pain. My second dose of morphine gave me very bad chest tightness and because the morphine was ER I would get the chest pains every 20-30 minutes. My Doctor said there are other medications to try. I'd like to research some he may prescribe so I'm informed about his next suggestion. If I had a bad reaction to morphine does that rule out taking morphine in any other form? What other medication is comparable to morphine? Many thanks for your help.

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I have been on methadone since 1992. I am now on 200 mg Q.D.
I also have to stand in line once a month. But I have to pay $234.00 for my methadone. I am a veteran. I have no insurance. But I have the VA Hospital. The doctors there do not give out more then two weeks of liquid methadone at a time. The clinic I go to once a month gives me 40 mg wafers. I think there is a big difference between Mallincrodt Methadose liquid and Jannson Labs 40 mg methadone wafers. One has time release , one does not. One last 24hours, one lasts about 12 hours.
I was diagnosed with prolongation of the QT interval in 2006. I still m on 200mg Q.D. The doctor at the clinic said that as long as I do not take one f the other drug that prolong the QT interval with my methadone, there will not be any problem.
He gave me the list of drugs that prolong the QT Interval. Ost, ther then Viagra are not at all common. Unfortunately doctors who know alot about methadone, are few and far between. Most doctors do not like methadone, so the do not read about it r prescribe it. Other then giving a patient 20mg B.I.D, or maybe T.I.D. for twenty days. They know nothing past that.
Frank, there must be a methadone clinic in your area that will give you methadone or pain management instead of addiction. Have you checked?

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Morphine is by far more potent than methadone almost regardless of strength! There are opiates out there that are stronger than morphine however, methadone IS NOT one of them. Hope that helps clear confusion.

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