What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg?
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I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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Re: Ty (# 3)


Dilaudid takes effect very fast and there is something in it that gives you short term euphoria, that’s the addictive part. They are ALL addicting but dilaudud seems to grab you by the throat and own your soul you forget about everything but dilaudid.

If you want to stay pain free longer I agree with former posts, take an ER rxtendedbrelease and I would get off the dilauded the self life is only 4 hrs try something else.

To bad they removed some of the older ER meds the generic are terriable, you feel numb not pain managed.

Each person is different each doctor is different age, other problems like inflammation also make a huge difference. Remember these meds are hard in your heart not just your liver. Good luck. Less is more. Dilaudid is very insidious, only good for short term.

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OxyContin is a time released med and any time released meds don't work half as good as a immediately released med it's that plain and simple

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Re: Wounded Angel (# 544)

Just because something is classified as "schedule 1" doesn't necessarily mean it's dangerous. If you believe the propaganda, then you probably have never taken Kratom yourself; at least from a reputable source. IMHO, calling Kratom dangerous is like calling CBD/THC dangerous. I've taken Kratom for over two years and know others who've taken it much longer than I have with only very positive things to say about it.

Just for the record, Cannabis was also classified as schedule 1 at one point - so are you going to say that THC and CBD are very dangerous? I hope not. Anything can be perceived as dangerous in the wrong hands, albeit no one has ever died from taking Kratom by itself (nor Cannabis), so sometimes we have to question why law makers decide what's illegal and what's not... It usually comes down to profit potential and keeping pharmacies happy. They don't want competition from something they can't make money off of.

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Kratom can be very dangerous. Do your research before deciding on anything. From personal experience, depending on where you live, I would take CBD Oil or medical marijuana. Stay away from Gabapentin and Lyrica. Lyrica made me suicidal and Gabapentin landed me in the hospital for a month. CBD oil will also help with any withdrawals you might have. Withdrawals are the absolute worse. Best of luck to you!

“Kratom is now a Schedule 1 drug in Alabama, the same classification as heroin and ecstasy. Wisconsin, Vermont, Tennessee, Indiana and Arkansas have also banned the botanical supplement, and more states are considering the same course. The federal government, too, has worries about kratom. May 20, 2016."

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Try Kratom, a teaspoon in a kuereg reusable cup with coconut rynes to keep it from turning into cement.

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I wouldn’t do near it (again) when I was an addict 35 yrs ago I was introduced to Dilaud. I got so addicted within 90 days it took over every area of my life. My husband ODed and i would become a slave to those 4 mg pills.

They only have a 4 hr self life, well long story short many years later I wouldn’t go near them. No pills Or drug took me to my knees faster those those powerful buggers. Suggestion go on Opana or the generic hydromorphine ER extended release. You don’t get the rise and the crash. Good luck to you. They are STRONGLY addictive.

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I too have chronic back pain for years & I am on Dilaudid & a number of other meds. However, I have a pump implanted so I do not have to take orally. The pump is time released so I don’t have to worry about taking too much or forget to take it on time. Supposedly they say it doesn’t affect you like taking it by mouth. I do not feel any different and do not have any side effects. My dr can change what goes into the pump & also the dosage. Maybe you should speak with your doctor about getting a pump. (Only if you have to take it all the time)

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Doctors do not listen. A tip to the wise if you are on medicare. Read your statement after a visit to your family dr. Mine said based on a 25 minute interaction. I waited 45 minutes in a closed room last time after arriving 15 minutes early. She came in and spent 9 minutes typing into the computer asking the same ?s I had been asked when a aid weighed and took my blood pressure. I had a quick list of ?s I wanted to ask. It was obvious she wasn't listening and I called her out on it. Boy did her personality come through. She was walking out the door after I asked if next time I should just turn up 1 hour past my scheduled appointment. It happens every time and I said so since I was having problems and all she wanted to do was duplicate stats in the computer. Her explanation was she was spending so much time with other patients answering their ?s that she was running way behind and had to catch up when she reached me! She cheated medicare big time. Anyone else ever have this happen? They should be reported. I asked to see a different dr. in the same office next time even though I have seen her for 8 years. But boy could she talk on about her kid to anyone that would listen!

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I was on Dilauded for over a year; three months interviencely and they when I left the hospital I had two liquid relills. When I got down to the last bottle, I was really deeply depressed. Physcology, it was a pain in the ass (actually in my head). It took about three months to stop thinking about. I’m. OK now but truth be told sometimes I wish I had some around. And this post is two years after I stop!

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Re: Coco (# 522)

I totally agree with you on the Kratom. I myself had spinal fusion with hardware. They put me on fentanyl and I was a mess. Wasn't myself and angry all the time. A year ago I took off the patch and picked up Kratom. Wow. I'm glad I did. I take green Malay with white maeng da and I'm out of pain for 24 hours. Totally awesome.

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I understand, I am on the fentanyl patch, and roxicet, but are you looking for the high? Or to help chronic pain? If you are going through your prescription before your time is up, you may be addicted! Or depending what the dr. gives you? With diluadid pills, you will not get the euphoria. But to me sounds like you may really be getting hooked! I’m here if you need to talk.

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I've been on oxycodone 30mg for 9 years now from a pain clinic. I have a few illnesses and a spinal surgery coming up. I'm also on 50mg Fentanyl patch for about the same amount of time I've been on the oxycodone. Once you start taking more of your medicine and run out before your refill comes for the next month? You need to talk to your Doctor immediately about this. Don't do this alone. You could seriously go into a coma or even worse die! This is a HUGE reason the laws of people on Narcotics and Doctors prescribing narcotics is getting harder on those who suffer. The Dr.'s have to know what's happening to you so they can adjust your meds accordingly. I was taking my Fentanyl patch has prescribed one every 48 hours. I also noticed if I forgot to replace my patch and it slipped my mind to put a new one on? I'd go into the most horrific withdrawals. Then I read more and more about the bad side effects of the Fentanyl patch and all the people dying using this drug. Those on the Fentanyl patch? The death poll got higher & higher! So I wanted to wean off both the oxycodone and the Fentanyl patch!. It was much easier than I thought it would be. However, this does take time to wean off. I did the same thing with both my meds. Each week I would go down another half a pill. With the Fentanyl patch, I would start placing a new one on every 3 days. I kept a journal on everything I did so I knew exactly what side to place the new patch on my body when it came time to change the patch and I always kept the old patch on when I'd place the new one on. Before I knew it I went from taking 15 Fentanyl patches a month down to 5 a month! Same with Oxycodone. I went from taking 6 per-day down to 2 1/2 per-day! Yes, my pain is very bad. But I do only what I can do and limit myself to what I can do. One day I may feel like doing more than another day. It's hard to live in pain 24/7. But these medications are strong.

If you say 40mg oxycodone didn't do anything for you? This tells me your body is used to a lot more narcotic. The Dilaudid narcotics? Is strong medicine. I'm given that at the E.R. when I land up in their for breaking a bone! If you don't tell your Dr. that you're taking more then you should of the narcotics your on? Then if you ever get into a car accident or something serious that brought you to the E.R.? Say you had to have emergency surgery? They put you under the anesthesia medicine to knock you out. They would go by what your doctor prescribes for you with narcotics. Then you may not go under has quickly for the surgery or even worse they give less anesthesia medicine not knowing you've been taking more then you should of the narcotic? This is why it's so important to always discuss with your Dr. how much you're taking with the narcotic your on. He/she can tell you to go to a pain clinic where everything is being monitored and you will be more under control for what you need to cover your pain! I've seen what this can do to you by taking more than you should? You could go into a coma or-or suddenly have a hard time breathing and not be able to breathe at all! These narcotics are very dangerous to play around with period. To many people are taking way more then they should and this is why it's not any longer up to the Dr. to give out narcotics it's the Government now who tells the Dr.'s what they can and can't do. So many people with horrendous pain are suffering because of people who take way more for a euphoria feeling than for the actual pain in itself! My advice Bottom Line? Talk with your Doctor at once! God Bless You and please do the right thing.

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Re: David (# 534)

I personally hated dilauded for the amount of pain that I am in. I was on 20 mg oxycodone 3 times a day then the dr told me that he was going to put me on 8 mg dilauded 3 times a day to replace it he said it was suppose to be 10 times stronger (I'm not sure who told him that!). Now it started out with alternating with my oxycodone and it worked wonders. So I decided to give the dilauded only a try for 2 months. Boy that was the biggest mistake I could make. Dilauded seems to me and this is my personal thoughts, short acting for pain. I went right back on the oxycodone. I'd rather have a extended release medication in combo with the oxycodone which is what they have me on. Good luck. I'm not sure if my thoughts help any.

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Does anyone have additional feedback regarding the efficacy of Dilaudid vs Oxycodone for chronic pain management? I realize there are several different types of pain, all requiring different levels of therapy, doses and other underlying treatment modalities. So, perhaps a more important question would be - How do the equianalgesic conversion charts compare for these two pain medications? Or, what has your personal experience been like on either one or both Dilaudid/Oxycodone?

If you build a tolerance to Dilaudid, does the availability of Oxycodone's larger dosage range (5mg - 80mg+) allow for greater flexibility in pain management vs Dilaudid's 2-8mg dosage range?

Just interested in reading other patient's thoughts and feelings on this matter...

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Re: Glad2BAlive (# 7)

Amen to that. I live in severe chronic pain. In SC drs are being pressured to not prescribe narcotics. The most they might give you is norco or tramadol, both of which are worthless. Dilaudid is what works best for me but i cant get it anymore. They give me a script for 800mg ibuprofen or aleve which is useless with my pain level. I guess they expect me to just live my life in pain staying in bed. I hate to take any meds and wouldn't if i didn't have to.

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Re: floridadave (# 8)

YES IT WILL HELP YOU. DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE. ALSO YOU ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE A DOCTOR THAT IS CONSIDERING THIS AS A WEEN...YES GO FOR IT

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Re: Ty (# 3)

I was on both Dilaudid and Oxycontin for a long time. I have 4 herniated discs in my neck. I was also taking Lyrica at the sane time. I did get off all of them. I was not able to function. I wasn't able to work. I felt like a zombie. I just stopped taking them and it's hasn't easy. But I take nothing for my pain but at least I'm not living like I'm in a fog.

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Re: OpiateTexan (# 9)

Love your comments. I have suffered with chronic pain for about 13 years now. I recently went through a knee placement surgery that did not go as well as anticipated. Therefore I had to go through a second knee surgery 6 weeks later. I'm still in a lot of pain daily and if it weren't for the pain management medications I would not survive this. Fibromyalgia makes it a lot more difficult to tolerate pain. I have people in my life that do not understand the pain I suffer so they are very nasty towards me about it. So I agree if you haven't walked in my shoes then don't talk to me about what I should or shouldn't do regarding pain management.

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You got that PERFECTLY right! I'll do what I have to do to be able to just TIE MY SHOES! I am a believer in what Christ did on the cross for me so I have NO fear of overdosing and dying. In fact I know in my heart it would be better than all this NON STOP PAIN. Because when I get to heaven I get a New body and I and everyone else who has accepted Him as their Savior will NEVER experience pain again. And that's for eternity! And that's a long time! So if I have a bottle of Dr. Prescribed pain meds next to me and I'm in severe pain, I'm going to take one whether it's "time" to or not! So untill u walk a mile in my shoes......u can just leave me be!!!!!

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If you get that sick when you try and kick you are taking way too much. Just the fact that you run out. HOW MUCH are you really taking, I know because I take it. I didn't know if you take too much and then run out you can't . I was taking maybe sometimes 16mg's. Way to much at once. Mine are NOT time released. I cut back to 8mg's or 4 and I have no problem. Wean back SLOW and you won't be sick.

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