Watson Is Now Actavis Generic Percocet 5/325 What Is Up With This (Page 17)

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I had been taking 5/325 generic Watson percocet for 4 years. Suddenly I get notified by Walgreens which I have insurance that there is no more Watson brand and I was given generic percocet 5/325 by Actavis. It is not the same at all. It has no pain relief for me. I used to break the watsons in half sometimes and never had a funny taste. I just broke one of the actavis white tablets in half and it immediately tasted like salt or alka seltzer? Has anyone had any issues with this drug too. Also, along with it not working right it has made my GI tract and stomach so ill feeling and cramping. This is not right how can they take away a medicine that someone has been on for 4 years without any problems and tell them to suddenly switch. Would a peson who has been on a certain heart medication for years be told to suddenly switch that he can't get that medicine anymore? I don't think so. I don't know what I am going to do but when it comes time to have my rx re-filled it will not be with Actavis and I will have to pharmacy shop I guess to see if I can find Watson. I am very depressed now and so unhappy I can't believe it.

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Martin, for me Mallickrodt isn't that bad. I do get some pain relief and I don't have any adverse side affects so far. I think my body is getting used to it, I would say the relief is 90% on a good day which isn't too bad. I think for me, it's better than endocet. I'm afraid to try that and be stuck with it for a month. If you ask me, I think it's like Aeon said. Because of abuse by some with the insufflating and so forth, the opiate formulas are changing.

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Hey Jan - why would they deny it if it's been all over the news? I posted a couple of wks ago that I too contacted Activus-spoke to several depts; they wrote back telling me that the oxycodone/acetomen were still the same but did not address the issue of the revised Watson formula was causing so many of us GI problems, did not work the same on pain, etc. I was sick for a month until I got my mail-ordered brand Percocet which I know too many cannot afford. I've been writing to all the news journalists who mention how we as pain sufferers are being seriously affected by these revised formulas. The pills do not digest the same so we are not getting the same pain relief dosage we used to. We are all being herded into having limited options - we can't even boycott because we need pain relief. Addicts will find theirs as always. Very stressful. Hope all have a good Easter.

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Hey nancy, if u look at my posts a few down, look up the artlcle I mentioned titled something about walgreens new secret checklist.....that would be a good reporter to write to....might give the reporter of that article a reason to do some more investigating. ...especially since one of the people he interviewed was a previous Walgreen s pharmacist.

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Hi Nancy, did you get brand name percocet and was wondering how it is working for you? Are the pills blue? A pharmacist in florida was beaten up the other day because a guy came into the pharmacy wanting pain pills. the pharmacy manager said that since the crack down on the pain pills in florida more pharmacies are getting robbed. He said even though the pain pills are shutting down legitimate pain people like us still need our medicine so even people like us will need our medicine and some will resort to robbery of the pharmacies. So much for shutting down the pill mills. The students who are in pharmacy school now said they are taught as bank tellers now - if someone comes in and wants pain pills assume you are going to be robbed and just give them what they want. Then in another news story yesterday a woman went to the pharmacy to get her pain medication re-filled and a guy over heard what she was getting and waited for her outside and threw her to the ground and stole her meds. So by taking away our Watson because of supposed druggies IS NOT going to solve anything - it is just making us legitimate pain people suffer in silence and in agony. I am still going through depression and every day when I can't get out of bed or can't do the things I used to do I think back to the days I had my Watsons. Then I think I wouldn't even be like this if they hadn't taken away my medicine - and so abruptly without warning I may ad. It is NOT fair and the fact that Actavis denies that their pills are not inferior is just a slap in our face because we all know with so many people complaining and still suffering, they are just liars. Hope everyone has a great pain free Easter

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The a333 is 10/325 a very poor substitute for watson 932 or real percocet

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I had been using Watson for about 2 years and just got my first Actavis last month and noticed it right away. Not as strong and crazy constipation. Making sure I don't get it again. Been using Walgreens but looking elsewhere.

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Hi all. I am so glad to have found this site and ur complaints. Well, not happy about ur complaints as I hate anyone being in pain, but I too was having all these weird side effects from Actavis and I'd take 3-4 10/325 oxy for 'some' pain relief. I never had this problem with Watson percs, vicodins, or Norco. But now that Watson bought out Actavis and changed the name back to Actavis, the whole generic makeup is different. My body is very sensitive to fillers. I used to have CVS order Watson for me b/c they stocked Mallies. For me, Mallies might as well be sugar pills whether generic vicodin or percocets. CVS, along with Rite-Aid are now stocking Amneal. If these are like mallies or Qualitest - those do not work for me. There is something in the fillers I am so sensitive to; so they either don't work or cause terrible side effects. I've asked the pharmacist at both places to order Watson or Actavis (b4 I found u all and given my probs are same side effects as you all forget Actavis) but they said they can't get them. (McKesson is distributor for both pharmacies and I called Actavis and was informed there was no back order, no reason why they can't be ordered. I don't know who is to blame. McKesson or pharms. Rite_Aid pharm told me earlier this week they are on back order for any generic perc for over 2 weeks now). I know the CVS CEO took it upon himself, to decide WHO gets pain meds and who doesn't!! Too many scripts by a doctor and both patient and doctor are banned! What does he expect from pain management doctors??? My pain management doctor would give me the scripts but my neuro has been doing for so long, he just fills in if neuro is unavailable. Also Obama-crap is mandating how these pain meds are made with drug addicts in mind rather than patients with REAL PAIN!! At this point, all of the generics suck for me, my insurance is going to have to pay for BRAND NAME only. For those of you on Schedule II meds, like percs, may I suggest you tell ur doctor u will try the generics but he/she will need to give you separate scripts for each trial. The pharmacist cannot do a partial. I get the scripts for 10 pills even tho it takes 4 scripts per month. At least I can taste test instead of wasting a whole month on something that will not work. One 10/325 Watson would be enough for day. Or I could trade off on some days and get by with just Watson Vicodin. Now 3-4 Actavis oxy and still in pain with serious stomach side effects. Unless you can find a small local pharmacy that may have Watson still in stock, Watson pain meds are just a memory. I note my local Horton&Converse were robbed last night for their pain meds. All these changes have made it worse for patients, pharms and I guess the druggies. Your tax dollars hard at work.

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I was engaged to a person of whom the father owned a large pharmacy. The unwritten rule is to deny having strong medications in stock over the telephone. If you go to the pharmacy and show them the legitimate RX and they do not have the brand you find best works for your conditions, ask them to tell you which location of their other pharmacies (granted they are a chain) have the brand you notice best helps you. IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT AND COURTESY. If you find they act rude or you notice they will not check for you or help with your query write a letter to the customer relations H.Q. dept of that pharmacy. NEVER tolerate the attitude from others that you are "abusing " or in any way not using your Meds properly, unless they have reason to think this, i.e. multiple RXs for the same med from multiple docs etc. You are to be treated as any other customer regardless of what your RX is for. When you are legitimate, you are any other customer, and will get all the attention a person needing a specific brand of any medicine prefers. YOU ARE YOUR BEST ADVICATE.

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Indeed. Measures are being taken by Walgreens to curb the use, legitimate or otherwise, of opioid medications and all Cll Meds for that matter. I recently read a letter they posted in the drop off area, and I quote; "We reserve the right to refuse filling certain prescriptions for pain medications..." meaning, they are covering themselves from possible DEA issues and giving themselves some leway for filling these scripts. I assume they are looking at the RX and if it is for an obscenely large qty or dose of Cll meds, as well as perhaps the patient being a new one whom is not their database, and/or paying cash. They can reject it and say "Sorry, we reserve the right to fill it..." And, well is this really a bad thing? I say no it is not. I am not for losing rights but I am for strict rules in the legal transfer of possible high abuse causing medications in lieu of those persons of whom may not need them, i.e. those that abuse. Abusers do not only make it more difficult to obtain needed necessary medicines by forging RX's they abuse the system. But this is not new info- you all know what the ramifications abusing meds causes to all who need them. I too am a member of numerous advocation groups, and have connections with pharmacies and the pharmaceutical industry with the practices that they are putting into implementation. In your sentence re. me using something other than the medication I am using- I find no reason to change. I have never had an issue with my pharmacy in many years. They know me by first name, and I know them by first name. A relationship must be formed with your doctor, and a professional relationship must be created among your primary pharmacy, and the lead pharmacists. They treat me very well, they order meds only I need without my request for them to order them and if any reason they are out, and another location is stocked with what I need, they call them and have them put them on hold for me to arrive with my RX. When you act and are professional in regard to your necessary pills, patches, or whatnot- you should be treated with the same level of professionalism.
To reiterate the steps being in acted by said pharmacy, it is a political/media story that they dont want aired or a result from such an act.
I now need to show my I.D. To have it filled, sight the backs of the RX, I then need to verify my address and phone number, then show my I.D. to receive the medication when it has been filled. Fine- whats the problem with that? Its much like the obvious need to make everyone show their I.D. to eliminate the rampant voter fraud we all have seen and heard about; It creates a legitimate and honest way to conduct business at hand. People that complain that proving that they are who they state they are, well- who can honestly tell me and say that there is no "question of legitimacy" here?
So, Be honest. Do what you need to, just dont lie about anything. Then- no problems will arise. If they do- not your fault. Contact a supervisor. If you have issues, call your doctor, if he has issues changing things to better help your and alleviate your legitimate situation, stop going to pill mills or flagged doctors.

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Hey Lola - Happy Easter!! Trying to have a good one but not doing well with Florida weather. Yes, I have my 10-325 Percocet and felt a huge difference, able to do things in the house and yard!!! My internal systems aren't yet normal from the Activus oxycodone, same symptoms everyone else seems to have. Reading everyone's experiences makes me think of the roller-coaster rides we are having to put our bodies through - it's scary to me. Drinking lots of water trying to get out whatever toxins I can from the Activus crap; been writing to journalists who happen to "mention" all of us who are pain sufferers and how we are being ignored completely.

The pharmacists - I feel bad for them as they are corporate employees being told what to do and now have to also work in fear. I object to those pharmacists that told me "oh, that's too much percocet for one person" that got me sooo upset I called the supervisor and told her they are NOT my doctors who have diagnosed me, examined me, operated on, whatever and they do not have the medical degree to determine what is "too much" for me. I also wrote to Walgreen's head office about that as well. Your stories about people being robbed - it's horrible, isn't it? Again, the druggies will always find a way.

I have a lot of time so I have already written to corporations, their board of directors, stockholders, etc., claiming their products are making me (and others) sick and more importantly, do not have the proper affect on our pain as it did before, basically warnings about legal suits that will inevitably happen as more people get sick for no reason other than their pill; also email all kinds of government agencies dealing with pain medications in any way, etc. The more we speak out, the more we might get some action that will help us get good medications without being targeted or treated like street users.

How are you doing? We will have better days to come - got to believe that!! My problems are so hard on my family and friends but we really just don't have much of a choice but to make good days the best we can.

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Aeon,

Everything you say is true. I'm starting to develop a relationship with my pharmacy, even though I've only filled there twice. I notice people coming in, and being called by their name. That made me feel good about the pharmacy. I hope to get to that point myself. I realize I can only do that, by staying with the same pharmacy for pain medication. The Mallinckrodt isn't so bad. This is my second prescription, and there are good days and bad days. Yesterday, was a really bad day but today is better. I had to take nyquil to sleep, which I'm not recommending but I feel better today. I know there is a lot of tylenol floating around in this equation, I've discussed it with my doctor. Anyway, like I said especially in the times were living in, it's best to find one pharmacist and stick with them if you can. When it comes to this class of drugs, we are being monitored very closely. I noticed a while back the request for identification. I guess next we will be getting our fingerprints scanned.

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Hi Jan, good to hear you are having some good days now since you have been on the Mallinkrofdt. I am going to have to re-fill my rx again in a few weeks if my doctor wont' listen to me when I see him on Monday so I wanted to know if you could tell me how you feel after you take one? Do you feel drowsy, anxious or having any weird feelings and do you feel a warm feeling like with the Watsons then you knew they were working? Any info would reallly help me as I as so many others are still in this seems like never ending dilemna. Hope everyone has had a pain free Easter.

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Hi Aeon....if u look down a bit, you will see a pist I wrote for others here to look up n read about walgreens pharmacy. Most of us use/used walgreens to get our script filled since they were the carriers of the Watson Percocet. Unfortunately, they dont make em anymore so we're out of luck. But read the article I mentioned below about walgreens. It kinda talks about the reason they can refuse to fill ur scripts n what came to that

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Hi Lola,

Yes, you do get that feeling after almost an hour. But that is how I felt with Watson. I have experienced good pain relief the last few days. Saturday was pretty bad though. I have been making myself wait longer between doses, and that seems to be helping as well. I've noticed if something is constantly in my system, it doesn't work as well. I can't say yes get Mallickrodt, because everyone's body is different. I was afraid of Endocet, because of past experience. I made 2 cakes yesterday, so I guess that's a good sign. If I can do some of the things I enjoy doing, I figure the pain medicine is at least helping. I hope you find something that works. At least we have something, I spoke to another person that didn't get narcotic pain medicine, because the doctor told them they didn't want them to become addicted. So be careful with these doctors as to what you ask for. Something is going on, and they are trying to stop prescribing narcotic pain medication.

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Hi everyone. She lives in Philadelphia and her last 2 scripts were both watson. I am going to have to assume they got a shipment of them.
Lola I went with brand name this time. They are also light yellow and they work great! I'm wondering if the blue dye is an issue for you? I just got my refill and figured I would try name brand and compare.

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I know I react to certain dyes and I can have an awful reaction where the pill won't even work and it will just make me sick. I wanted to lower the dose but I'm scared to try the blue ones. I may try the 7.5/325 next. I think they are light peach.

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Lola she uses Walgreens in Philadelphia. It doesn't make sense to me either because for 2 months she keeps getting watson.

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Gatorlawman,

Yes, I had to drop Walgreen's as well, when it came to pain medication. I still get my other medicine there, because its right around the corner. I have to go a little farther for pain medication, but it's only once a month. As I said, the Mallinckrodt is working fine for me most days.

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Hi Lisa M. Did you go with the brand name percocet 10/325? I have the 5/325 and the pills are bllue. I think the blue dye was what was making me sick and again another bottle is sitting on the shelf. I thought you were happy with the endocet? Didn't you mention that you were taking the endocet and that they felt like Watson with no side effects? I also tried the endocet and I was wrong in earlier posts they are not blue they are white. However,, they do not agree with me at all. I tried them again a few other times and the same thing I felt very ill like I wanted to throw up feeling but I didn't actually throw up just had that quesy spacy feeling all day. I won't take another one of those. Had an appointment with my pain doctor yesterday and he ended up listening and gave me a rx for percodan and it is by Watson. I don't understand why Watson still has percodan available and not the percocet - doesn't make any sense to me. I haven't been able to get to town to fill it yet but I will report on if it helps. I hope I can tolerate it otherwise I think this is going to be it for me as far as narcotics for pain control. I know I am not the only one that has issues with these generics because I read a post from a man that had been on Watson percocets for 10 years. 10 years that is a very long time. Over the years I guess he had different ones given to him in the hospital that were not Watson and he had bad reactions each time he said that the other generics have a certain ingredient in them and I can't remember the name of the ingredient, but it was sad because he said he knows for him nothing else will work because although he may get some pain control they ALL make him deathly ill except for Watson so he said he has no choice but to quite cold turkey. It was a depressing post and my heart went out to him I felt sad after I read that. to think because a drug company decides that is it they are not making it anymore so many of us have had our lives turned up side down. Martin, I know I sound like I am still pining for Watson and yes I am. It's because we were not even given any warning of what was to come and it was taken away so abruptly and not being able to find a substitute that is anywhere near acceptable is what makes all this so much worse physically and mentally.

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They didn't have endocet so they gave me brand. Yesterday was the first day with brand and It isn't horrible but I definitely prefer endocet over brand name. Thing is it is hard to find and I didn't even ask if they can order it for me but I definitely am asking. I heard CVS can order it also so I need to call and find out. After a few of the brand name I find them way to strong and I didn't like the way they made me feel. The pharmacy I used last month said they did order some but they haven't received them yet. They aren't easy to find and I will see if Walgreens can order them first since that's my pharmacy.

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