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Does anyone know what Watson did or why they changed their formula for Lortab 10/500? It used to be blue and when I picked up my refill today they are now white. I still have a few days of my blue left but I swapped a few so I can try the white. I'm waiting for it to start working and I took it over 2 hours ago. My rx is 1-2 every 3 hours not to exceed 7 in a day. (my pm dr wants me on a stronger med but anything above hydrocodone makes me euphoric and I can't function) The blue color lortab starts to work within 15 mins. I took my first white color lortab 2 hours ago, waited an hour and took the 2nd and nothing. I will wait 30 mins longer and switch back to the blue until I run out. This sucks. I'm a full time law student, disabled, single mom and can't use my dominate arm because the pain level is too high. (My shoulder dislocates every time I move my arm, even after 3 surgeries the last one being a bone transplant to the shoulder.) Sorry about any typos, I am typing with my left hand and don't have the coordination in this arm/hand that I do with my right. Thank you for any information that you can provide me.

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That's EXACTLY what my Dr said as well ("just take a Tylenol with it & its thesame as the 10/500 I've been on for over 14yrs")....except its NOT! These are like s***, I find myself taking doses closer together due to the pain, these are so super weak, you really do require extra doses for some relief, which is bad cuz your out of em faster. What REALLY trips me out is how they were 10/500 right?...ok now they're 10/325 which is a decrease of 175mg Tylenol right? Ok so NOW I got a Dr that tells me "just take 1 Tylenol to get the same effect" yet over the counter Tylenols are 325mg for ONE pill. So basically I'm intaking a total of 650mg Tylenol vs. the 500mg I was originally taking so in all rights, its like the Dr's &/or pharmacutical comp are trying to kill usv(or at least cause liver damage which causes severe pains requiring to need these so called "pain relief pills" this is all just a vicious cycle & were the unfortunate ginnypigs suffering while lining all those "fatcats'" pockets. Smh, its a crying shame how this country cares for us or lack thereof! Good luck to all you guys on these meds, my heartgoes out to you, your not alone. God bless.

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All lortab's have been changed as of jan 2014. pay no attention to these i***** that say it's all in your head. it's all in the difference in the pill. if you have taken these pills you are the expert on what they do and what they don't, so don't waste your time with some so called pharmacist that has taken a five dollar course in a two dollar school and has never taken anything stronger than an aspirin 81. these quacks that were instructed by the gov to make changes in the hydrocodone has formulated it next to poison, so going from one brand to another is not going to help all that much. it's all bad. now all the addict's have gone to the street and are now more of a threat to crime than ever before. Now people in real pain are having to be prescribed morphine or a stronger drug to ease their pain. Common sense was not looked into when a good working pain medicine was changed and reformulated by these i*****.

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They will just tell you that they are the same that all they did was take dye out. Just saying cuz I have already called mine.

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I feel sorry for all of you. My wife has been complaining about the new white ones also. I believe the recent comment about the DEA is accurate. I'm sure that there is a little bit of truth in most all of the comments. Fortunately for me, I stopped taking 20 or 30 lortab 10's per day and changed to 12 methadone 10's per day. This was a nice change that has worked well for me for over ten years. My head is much clearer now and I feel pretty much normal. However, the last two months, I have had a difficult time filling my script for 360 methadone 10's. My regular pharmacy has not "had enough" and I got the same story from twenty different locations. So CVS can stick it up their ass. I changed to a new pharmacy that manufactures the pills on location. The name of it is Precision Specialty Pharmacy(in Las Vegas). I recommend that all of you try to find a pharmacy that makes the pills on location. Once again, I would like to say that the DEA has a hand in all of this, because my Dr. told me that he was getting government pressure, and I know several other DR's that are cutting their patients back for the same reason. They(DEA) arrested a few Dr's here in Las Vegas. Good luck to all of you with the new weak white lortabs, and don't be afraid to try methadone. I swear by it.

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I meant 10- 500 strength

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Iam on morphine and it a schedule 2.I go to the the doc every 3 Months and Iam also on Hydro which sucks since they chage.So you can't say it is because it is a #2.

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ANGELA do u go to a pain dr or a primary care? my pain dr says i have to been EVERY 28 days for hydrocodone or any pain med..maybe this is only for pain clinics?and not regular doctors?

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I am wondering if anyone is having any other problems since they changed the Loratab to white....I have been getting abcesses...one on my c-section scar not going away with amoxicillian...and today I have one in my mouth...my friend who also started taking the white has one in his mouth...worried since we had the bad injections that killed many if possibly they are poisoning us...any ideas???

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Hey,K I do go to pain management, and also for the rest of you HYDOCODONE are a Schedule 2 Drug if they cannot call it in then it is a 2.That is what they told me.

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It isn't a II in all states. Not in California!! I am very lucky my PM calls it in- I just need a visit every 6 months!

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OMG R U SERIOUS? THE LADY WHO RUNS THE OFFICE SAID I MUST BE SEEN EVERY MONTH AN DHAVE BEEN PAYING THESE MFERS $200 A MONTH FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I ALSO GET A LOW DOSE OF MS CONTIN..BUT I NEVR WANTED IT..AND LAST MONTH THEY TRIED CUTTING MY NORCO AND INCREASING THE MS CONTIN I SAID NO I AM TRYING TO GET OFF THE MS CONTIN CUZ I CANT AFFORD TO KEEP COMING HERE EVRY MONTH N THE BIT#$ WAS LIKE U HAVE TO BE SEEN U HAVE TO STAY ON A LONG ACTING PAIN MED IF UR TAKE A BREAKTHROUH PAIN MED.! BS I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE LYING TO ME ITS NOT FUNNY

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I have fibro and cmps. I was diagnosed 13 yrs ago. I had been getting the watson yellow 10/325 and as long as I stay in front of the pain rather than chase it I function pretty well. Watson changed mine to the bright white pills. ever since I have been breaking out in hives covering my arms and torso. when I called the pharmacist he treated me like I was stupid. H sai they only removed the dye. How could he or any of us know for sure that they didn't add something else as a binder or to make it such a bright white color? I'm going to an allergist tomorrow. They can't test for medication allergies so it's going to be a painful month or two for me as I will have to eliminate all my meds, give them time to get out of my system and then add one back at a time to see which one I react to. Has anyone had this experience with the hives since the dye was removed?

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forgot to ad my pain dr office is a bunch of greedy a(*)#les they have been making me be seen monthly for over a year and only put me on ms contin so i HAVE NO CHOICE but to be seen every month i just found out i could have been getting 3 month REFILLS of the norco when i asked the manager she said no i have to be seen monthly cuz they are a pain clinic but i dont believe her.anyone know if this is true? i am so upset cuz i havent had a job since last summer and go through HELL to get to them every month and borrow money to go also now my unemployment is done and im screwed probably going to be in a homeless shelter thanks to this sickening governement cant get medicaid guess cuz im white its ridiculous and $30 a month to eat with lol so i have money to go ONE MORE TIME and i have been trying to get off the mscontin and last month the idiot dr tried to increase it and cut the norco without even tell me or talking about it! so had to sit there and argue and i told them in trying to get off the ms contin and the girl says YOU CANT! u have to get the long acting prescribed with the breakthrough pain med or theyll get in trouble which also i dont believe! can anyone help me i know if i tell them again that i cant afford to come every month their just gonna be like too bad cuz they dont care about patients only money. but i have nowhere else to go . so i was gonna ask for the 10.500 mg and see if hell give me 5 a day but im pretty positive that he wont cuz they are uncaring

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I belong to Kaiser. And yes- I only see my PM every 6 months. I am very very lucky. I am not flaunting anything. Trust me- I'd rather go a lifetime without this pain than to "be so lucky" to have my pain meds readily accessible unlike most. Yes- there may be a day when this changes. Every pain man. Dr has their own rules. Most WANT not NEED you to be seen monthly. It looks better on their end! Good luck to all.

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KR I have been where you are, waiting for disability paperwork, paying 165.oo monthly for a phone follow up to get lortab 10. (well I actually just got approved for disability and used the$ for my dr.) even after being on medicare it took abot 1 year to even get to a dr. to rx my meds. I have 3 kids though b(puts more pressure stress on you because you can barely provide) I do know that by law my pcp could and did wite me lortab with 2 refills , thus only having a face to face every 3 months,so a doccan also call in lortab,aka hydrocodone, anything else mscontin, oxycodone in ny form or strength must be written and requires a face 2 face visit. In my state yes there are new laws requiring docs to put chronic pain patients on an ER form and a max of 4 breakthrough short term pills a day. for example I take 60 mgs mscontin every 8 hours I am only allotted 4 lortabs a day . I do know for a fact one docs office a pm here in my state got visit from the DEAguidlining thi practice to put any choic pain patient on an ER form with a a max of 4 breakthrough short acting meds. I understand however that these professionals pharmacists and docs do lie I cn understand why you feel so betrayed. The atson hydrocodone is garbage I believe we are being lied to and who knows really WHY they changed the ingredients!! it's a bunch of bull.. though.. I have always found relief and quality in Mallinkordft brand meds, and they have always had white hydrocodone, I go to Safeway for the 10/500 they work well for me. Also it's not really a blck or white thing. I am half of each but my white aunt who has worked hr but off aall her life usually 2 jobs at a time, she's now disabled, has to go to the free clinic, gets crappy care, thy wont give her any narcotics even though she used to get thm then an intrn doc took her off, she has disabling documented ailments, this clinic docs are key in getting pproved for her ddisaability and they are rookies, it it bs ppl like her work ALL their lives and gt his treatment it pisses me off. However there are ppl who barely work but are welfare recipients and get Medicaid right on application. it sucks not fair. Just hang in there do what you can...but there are all different ppl in all different races, states and countries going through it..thanks government!!

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Kr the mallinkrofd (spelling :/) 10/500 work for me and I had the new watsons they are garbage, I had some imprinted 176, weird no good neither..

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What state do you live in? I talked to the health dept in florida who also told me yes schedule 3 drugs can have 3 refills! then why the F has this pain management people been telling me I HAVE TO BE SEEN MONTHLY FOR IT? how ridiculous i told them i have been starving for a year now cuz its either eat or go to my dr and if i dont go to dr i cant get out of bed so i have been not eating right for a year now. I do not know what to do beacuse ive been on the SAME 4 a day norco for 17 months now and since the watson bs they do NOT WORK AT ALL unless i take 7 a day cuz i have the crap amneal brand, its the only one they have and i tried other pharmacies they wont fill for me pos aholes make me SICK treat me like a junkie whne i have lost everything and about to be homeless. u wouldnt believe what social security did to me friday omg, evil mfers. they truly r sick and evil. i never heard of the 4 max per day prescriptions so thats great i was gonna tell me dr that i have built a tolerance, but last time i did that he just put me on 2 ms contin a day instead of 1, but i CANT EVER get them filled so i need the norco increased this is part of the reason i lost my job last year cuz nobody would fill the ms contin and my pain was unbearable. is it only primary care doctors who r allowed to give refills? i am sick over this, i contacted my old primary care who is the one who STARTED me on vicodin 4 years ago i saw him regularly every 3 months for 4 years, and he wont see me again to keep me on the norco. i asked and he said he wont prescribe me pain meds, LOL my pharmacist knows him and said hes been prescribing pain meds lately again and he told me to contact my old dr thats the only reason i askd i worked for the government for 5 years and i am sick that i have to go through this bs,. now the hell my pain dr put me through last month is a JOKE and ive heard its what they do to FIRE patients..so i am scared to death to go to my appt tomorrow cuz last month they put me through HELL lied about drug tests, the lab lied, etc..yet 2 weeks later i passed a drug test for a job LOL ridiculous. so how do i go about telling this dr that my meds are NOT WORKING and need stronger, or more per day. this dr never talks about my meds EVER hes been the dr for last 5 months and not once has he asked me about my meds, he just tried to decrease the norco and increase the ms contin without even talking to me about it. it is a nightmare. but i did get an at home job that i wont be able to do unless my meds are increased for sure. im suposed to start next week and i cant sit at my pc for more then an hour now so this job is 8 hours a day on it idk how its gonna happen, i have no choice but to take it cuz i will be homeless if i dont i may be thrown out anyway since my rent was due aug 1 and i am broke besides what i save d for my dr and meds.

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The yellow watsons and the white watsons- the ones that are compressed are absolutely no good. It doesn't even help for a toothache let alone my back pain. I had the yellow ones 10/325 last month and I called the pharmacy to make sure those wouldn't be the ones I would be getting, so they say they are white 10/325 now. And guess what the whites are worse than the yellow. So now I have to suffer 30 days before another refill. Next time I will be calling every pharmacy beforehand to make sure I don't get either of those two. I have no tolerance issues and take them as prescribed.

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the doctors are so afraid their gonna lose their license, and yes I certainly can tell a diff, dea I'm sure is attemping to withdraw American's off it, because it has become an epidemic, so thanks to the junkies we will have to suffer!

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that is a lie because pharmacies wont tell you that info over the phone.

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