War On Chronic Pain Patients (Page 6) (Top voted first)

Thanks to all you drug abusers there has been an ongoing war on us legit chronic pain patients. Thanks to all who abuse pills and alcohol, because of you they wage war on us. Street drugs are cheaper so why do you all have to mess with the pills and make life difficult for us chronic pain sufferers? Are you stupid or just self centered? Britain uses our military to protect Afghan poppy for people like you, so quit trying to cook up the pills. We legit chronic pain patients would really appreciate it, not that you care, but maybe when you stop acting so self centered, people will actually begin to care about you. You reap what you sow.

To stem cell labs worldwide: We need you to cure degenerative discs and herniations for those that want to be cured instead of on pain meds. Make yourselves known. We need options. We know you have the cure. We need the FDA to help make up for lost time.

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Roro (# 5) --

Hello sir, or ma'am, I'm just bumping into a few comments here and I'm curious please...what do you know about these U/A's? Please if you can help me out greatly appreciate it. I'm a suboxone patient and I went to a new doctor, my older one retired. I have not done drugs since my treatment started in 2005..I never had a positive drug results in my life. And my first 3 visits were fine, after that every drug panel was coming up positive for everything, ya, I mean like a Christmas tree. I had to Google many of the drugs, I have heard of them but never even seen them in my life. I at first was accusing them of tainting them.... then I started thinking that the doctor was just money hungry because she was only 32 and fresh out of college and her policy was weekly visits, weekly scripts and weekly therapy. Call me crazy but I did it, I had to prove it wasn't me..now prior to the last visit the secretary called me and said if you're not clean the doc will be letting you go. I said but, but..she said we will work through this. I don't get it...well again I went the next day like before somewhat nervous I had gotten so afraid to pee, I have nothing to hide, except what they have put me in a state of depression I have never seen before. I begged for bloodwork they caved in. Because the last U/A was positive for PCP, barbiturates and one other..so on the very same day I peed I did the bloodwork..was I a happy camper it turned out perfectly just as I thought it would.. that is other than to find out she was letting me go as a patient of only 3 months...was it she was embarrassed of her mistakes?? I have no idea what I did wrong..so if there is something more to these cheap U/A's I would like to know. Thank you so much.

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Re: Donita (# 64)

You said it no matter what they come out with all about money they get you addicted it don't work you need more anyone get you off at if it's the world today I think I'm not a communist at all but sometimes I think somebody should just drop the bomb and let the world rejuvenate again like it did wait a long time many light years ago because something has to give you know what I got to deal with sometimes I just want to be dead if anybody else feels that way

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Re: sandy (# 69)

You say 10 mg two pills daily they base everything morphine related and morphine is not strong some medication 10mg kick morphine's ass so true but you're taking might help me because my three morphine do not help me think about it

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Re: marin5 (# 63)

Yeah that makes a lot of sense what you said but the thing is to whom

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Re: Alan (# 62)

Alan, you said "there's no good reason...." But there must be, we just haven't found it yet.

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I just got an email about Purdue putting out a new buprenorphine wafer..for pain patients... Being it comes from the Sackler family it has got to be fairly decent.

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Re: Dead (# 99)

Well, guess what? I too have a broken vertebrae, spondololthesis, stenosis, scoliosis, and arthritis. ALL I get is 3 ten mg. Hydrocodone a day! I suffer every single day in severe pain and cannot get any relief. I know others who are getting hundreds of 30 mg. Morphine pills plus hundreds of methadone pills and mixing them makes quite the cocktail for this one person because they're constantly nodding out, hallucinating, lying, and destroying everything in their path. This person obviously abuses the medication but the point is, these are the kinds who are getting over prescribed and there's no way they're in severe enough pain to warrant this much medication, no one is unless they're at an end of life cancer situation.

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Re: Dead (# 77)

Sounds like my sibling. They've never held a job that was strenuous or had to lift heavy items. Never held a job longer than 5 yrs, the total no. of yrs. they worked out of 60 is only like 6 years. They kept getting all these unnecessary surgeries then they had a major back surgery and they never had anything wrong with their back other than having bad posture. They weren't diagnosed with Scoliosis as a kid, I was! They fought to get disability for 5 years and finally got it! This person abuses pain medication to the core!! They're seriously messed up mentally, don't know if it's from 35 yrs of abusing narcotics or what but they're screwed up. They think they're the ONLY person who has pain, their pain is worse than anyone else's and no one else deserves to be on pain meds but them! They say they can't move w/o their meds in the a.m., well duh I don't think anyone would be with all the pills they take. They told me one time they take 700+ mgs. of morphine per day plus 300 mgs. of methadone a day! When they came home from back surgery they didn't stay down, they went directly to doing things they shouldn't have done so it totally negated anything the surgery did! They have no responsibilities, are never accountable for all the crap and lies they tell about other family members, in other words they're a full blown rx. pain abuser and addict. These are the kind of people who shouldn't be getting mega quantities of meds but are. People who are suffering in real pain who don't abuse their medications have to suffer, how this person keeps getting these large qty's is beyond me!

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Re: Addiction (# 67)

And the truth is the more medication you take the worse the pain gets, this is a scientific fact, especially when you're abusing and taking large quantities. Don't get me wrong, no one can get relief on 2 to 3 Norco a day, this is a disgrace to someone with severe pain. We have some people who aren't really in a lot of pain who are getting rx'd huge amounts of morphine and other high powered opiates and I'm talking hundreds a month and then we have the other end of the spectrum, ppl suffering with too little medication who have legit diseases and injuries. It's so unfair to the people who are really hurting. Even though the CDC recommends the equivalent of 90 mgs. of morphine per day my doctor is only giving me 3 Norco a day, this is inhumane. I have severe arthritis, a broken vertebrae, scoliosis, stenosis and a cracked tailbone. Makes me irate that ppl who don't even have half the pain I do are getting over-prescribed.

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Re: Ty Dollar Sign (# 108)

I agree, My doc prescribes 5mg of Norco 4 times a day for RSD, severe back problems and extreme pain from a botched broken ankle surgeries (12 in all) but he is afraid to prescribe any more for fear of prosecution. I don't want to get out of bed most days and am very depressed that things are not going to get any better.

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Re: Sissy (# 12)

My heart breaks for you.
What route did you take? Did you find another doctor?

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Re: TnJack175 (# 111)

The buprenorphine film is called suboxone, however along with a lot of other people the naloxone in it is had to tolerate, at least that is what I have read, now in my case I take plain buprenorphine 8mg, x 3 daily..and when I started taking this medication back in 2005 they started you out on subutex 8mg x 4 daily for 6 days, 7th day on they would switch to suboxone 8/2, x 4 daily..it was prescribed much different than it is today, now the very 1st day on suboxone8/2, I noticed it was different.....so different that I called the doctor to ask why and did I get something that might have been a wrong medication?....they said that I'm on the right one...so I decided to look further into the medicine..back then not much was really known about it and very few doctors prescribed it or even knew about it..all I could find out is that only two groups of people were prescribed (subutex). If you were pregnant or could not tolerate the naloxone....not only was the subutex way cheaper but it also works better..so I decided to make my doctors appointment and get the subutex instead of suboxone...it was hard he wouldn't budge much but after several attempts saying I had allergic reactions to naloxone I finally got my way....

I'm still on the (subutex) 8mg x 3....I remember back then even telling a doctor that I don't even get headaches or any aches and pains..he just smiled and great..back then it most definitely was not even thought of to be a pain pill like today.....now I'm on it because I was on pain medication and I live here in southwest Florida, pain management doctors and pharmacies connected together giving patients all the pain medication they wanted with no problem at all..well I got it but not like a lot of other people who had guts to just come out and ask for whatever they wanted with me I just accepted whatever...it's really a long sad story I have, and have paid the price of addiction....I also cannot get off this medicine for nothing. tried and tried, the only thing I haven't done yet is admit myself into a 28 day stay...I'm 59 and I don't think my body can handle another withdrawal.

My last attempt was June of last year...I went to the same pain management doctor that used to give me some of the pain medication from back in the day. My prescribed detox medication was percocet 10s, x 4 daily alongside a few other comfort medications...after 9 days I was so I'll and lost a lot of weight that my husband had to carry me into his office before his office opened is what the doctor told me to do on a Sunday evening when I spoke to him last....and since he only prescribed suboxone I accepted it until I could get back into my other doctor for the subutex..oh I don't like the suboxone at all..at least with subutex for me it an energy-intensive on top of it being way cheaper..I have insurance they will pay for either....buprenorphine 8mg, just came out with another new generic guess who puts it out? Of all companies Purdue,....its called Rhodes 8mg, and it's the best ever..there's only one other company we have is hikma 8mg, the rest are not so great, you should look for the medschat group a guy named goozer wrote it and he is the go to guy for information, he's very knowledgeable about medication and this new Rhodes that came out in Oct 2017.....sorry I got carried away with this topic but I like to guide anyone who asked me about it to be able to guide anyone to the good buprenorphine out there.

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Re: TnJack175 (# 111)

Sorry one more thing is just a month ago I hurt myself I believe it is a SCIATICA I have googled it trying to diagnose myself, so even on my dose of buprenorphine 8mg x 3, I don't want to say it doesn't work for pain....it's hard to tell, because it definitely dose work for pain because after my first dose in the am I'm able to walk around throughout the day but to say oh wow I have no pain,. I could not say that....however I have asked my doctor about your medacine and was told by many doctors that what I'm on the subutex...........

Buprenorphine is way better for pain relief..so I have never tried it...I really would suggest that other post I told you to look for because the guy goozer is good and he takes it for pain...he is honest and knowledgeable, kind and will never guide us in the wrong direction..keep a look out i will find his post and the correct name for you

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Re: Charlene (# 113)

Hey Charlene, Oh Yes, keep me informed about this.. Thanks
J.

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Re: Jack175 (# 116)

Yes, I heard of belbuca when it first came out in 2015. I'm wracking my brain thinking about the doctor's name who I email about for information on it,. He wasn't a local doctor but I watched his presentation on the topic..I was interested in it... at the time I told him I was on buprenorphine 8mg x 3,..he told me I was better off with what I was already on because he said mine was stronger??....at the time I felt like I would go in and. Out of withdrawal symptoms do I was interested in a change...I had come to find out that at that time I just was on a different generic that just didn't agree with me so since then I have switched to the generic I'm on now and since have not any problems....now dont quote me on if mine is stronger or not because I don't know..I'm just quoting what the man told me to stay where I'm at now...However it seems whenever they come out with a new buprenorphine product I google it for some knowledge about it, since I have been taking it so long, I don't like the idea that I could possibly be taken this medicine to the day I die...it upsets me because back in 2005 when I started it several pharmacy's and doctors told me, don't worry it's not addictive and now several years later I find out it is very addictive and I wished I never started taking it..however good luck to you and I hope you do well on it..it's a shame what is going on to the pain patients and having such a hard time getting medicine for pain..nice talking with you..

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Re: TnJack175 (# 111)

Btw, as far as taking other meds along with the buprenorphine 8mg, I take 800mg gabapentin x3, cymbalta, and buspar, and flexaril x 3..wow that's alot of meds, and I probably left one out, due to brain fog, it's late. Lol..the cymbalta I just started about 4 months ago 90mg, and it definitely has helped with my pain,. I read mixed reviews as always some like it, while others don't. So far I'm good.

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Re: rammsteinfan (# 18)

For your problem you do not need anything deal with what I got your a pillbilly

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Wow! What an ignorant post! I understand your frustrations but to lash out @ people dealing with addiction whose stories you know nothing about & put them all into one stereotypical category of your own making is pathetic, judgmental, & shows the lack of knowledge you have on the facts. Of course there are addicts who get pills from Drs to abuse them which is a shame but just as often there are pain management individuals who become addicted &/or physically dependent on opiate pills & start abusing their medication, begin Dr shopping, & in many scenarios wind up turning to street drugs. It’s an epidemic in all types of facets & on all different levels. Choosing to have such irrational, biased, & disturbing opinions on such a serious topic as this, is disgusting but then to take it a step further & share your remarks to the public makes me truly wonder what you could possibly think you will gain from it? Empathy? Understanding? Maybe..had you kept your hate-fueled rant out of it. And maybe if your opinions were completely factual. To be so hostile & angry must be such a miserable way to live. People like you don’t want a solution, rather you’re self-seeking, self-serving, & self-centered attention seekers who only want to condemn others to feed your ego & false sense of pride. Addiction doesn’t discriminate buddy, unlike you! Unfortunately, there is only 1 outcome for people who play the blame game, point the finger, & hurtfully belittle others: YOU will eventually REAP what YOU SOW.

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