Tris Hydrocodone-acetaminophen 10/325 (Top voted first)

I’m SUPER conserned because my pharmacy has switched from the yellow Qualitest Norco to 2 different brands I must choose from: Tris Pharma & Lupin Pharma. They are 10/325 Norco. I have Trigeminal Neuralgia, fibromyalgia, back surgeries in past and I’m told in future. I can’t stand the idea of being in pain all month. Any advise on which brand to get? I have been given the white Watson brand and the other white ones that say M367 (I think it’s a 7 at the end) they were 10/325 non the less. The Watson brand was ok but the M367 was like taking nothing sometimes. Please help me decide. Those are the only brands I can find. I am so afraid I’ll be in pain all month like I was with the M367 and Watson brands.

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Re: Lynn (# 10)

I know! There is something going on. And listen to this...my CVS is refusing to fill my pain medication now! All because people have asked which generic or requested their old brand they had been getting for years. They say that’s a “red flag” of some sort?? I have no clue what that even means! It’s so strange. It’s no different than getting the pizza you want from the restaurant that has better pizza or buying Tylenol generic at one place because you notice it doesn’t work...so you go somewhere else to buy their generic because that place’s generic works! So now I have to call my insurance because they will only let me get medication filled at 1 place - THAT CVS. And guess why this is? All because I went to 1 and I repeat ONE other pharmacy ONE time to get my Tegrotl for my Trigeminal Neuralgia. They need to be able to “monitor my meds” so I’m in a “Lock-in program” with my insurance. Can only go 1 place for 2 Years! So now I have to call and see if there is anything they can do to get me “locked down” to a different pharmacy. I swear it’s so cruel. If you have pain and actually take your medication the way it’s prescribed- YOU GET PUNISHED. You are trash. I wish all those judgemental people could feel for just 2 min the pain I live in. That pain would probably just about kill them! I wish so bad I could do things other people do like go running or even bend over! Some days I can’t even bend over. The only thing that helps just so happens to be a “narcotic”. So if I have to take 1 pain medication that makes it so I can get out of the bed and get my daughter ready for school and function...what is the harm. Every other med is addictive too! Withdrawal and everything if you come off. I mean with a lot of those alternative pain meds you have to go get your liver checked. As long as you don’t abuse Norco and don’t take a bunch of extra Tylenol...You don’t need your liver checked every month! So what is the darn harm? Ok, some people will misuse - then let them be responsible for that! They are provided info and warned, they are grown adults. If they are gonna go out and be dumb and OD or whatever. That’s their own ADULT fault. They are adults...they misuse- then oh well!

I’m not one to believe in conspiracies, but this is the weirdest thing going on. Something is up. And yes I’m sure a lot of it is because docs are being basically interrogated over this stuff. But why? Why are docs catching hell? So many people are dying from turning to street drugs. Well wonder why? DUH!...they can’t get help for pain. I mean sure, a lot are just being dumber than mud; but people have been doing that for that for many years! Now, all of a sudden I see a man I knew -dead, leaving behind a beautiful wife and kids? This guy used to have it so together. Yes, he took pain meds for his back & the surgeries - because it’s all that helped. This man is dead all because his doctors left and new nurse practitioners took over and suddenly wouldn’t give him his pain meds. He could no longer work, function, play with his kids. His Pain was so bad he turned to something-anything to get relief. Now his kids are crying for their daddy. Left behind a devastated family. People that are in that much pain - enough that they seek medical attention and get on pain medication...then most of the time- they need it! And if left in that much pain with no way to get help but the street...people will go to the street! It’s terrifying. It’s so horrible. If someone shows no signs of abusing their medicine, they are lucid and never ask for it early & it’s obviously keeping them as productive as they possibly can be, with their pain disorders - my God (and I mean God like seriously we need his help!) Why take that away? People need to get together and speak out about this. Kinda hard to get together & do that in pain - but somehow we all need to. Thank you all for your advice. :)

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I’ve been on generic norco 5/325 since 2011. My pharmacy switched me to this Lupin brand last month. They make me feel off & make my stomach hurt. I’ve asked my pharmacy to please use Qualitest instead and they’ve assured me they will when I refill them. I don’t use CVS or Walgreens or any retail chain for that matter. I go to a mom and pop pharmacy and I find them to be more customer friendly and nonjudgmental. I have called around in the past to Walgreens, CVS, etc., trying to ask what brands they carry and they treated me like an addict who setting up to rob them. It’s really upsetting that we as patients get judged for trying to manage our pain.

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Call around to drug stores and ask questions that have a yes or no answer to find the manufacturer you want and let your current pharmacy know that you are firing them as they work for you... If more people would get out of the mindset that they need a specific pharmacy, then the pharmacy might get what the customer wants... Always check your scripts before paying and if they are junk meds tell them so and then if need be pull up medschat and show them.

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My wife went through a month of misery after CVS changed from QUALITEST to LUPIN for her hydrocodone 7.5/325. She has pretty bad arthritis. Once I researched lupin's FDA sanctions I pretty much went off on CVS. The next week they swapped out her blood pressure meds for LUPIN. I refused that batch without hesitation.

Lupin is shipping chalk pills if you ask us. Don't touch it.

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Re: Monty (# 2)

YES LUPIN IS THE WORSE!! DOES NOTHING FOR PAIN AND DOC WONT CHANGE IT FOR DIFF ONE NOW IN MAJOR PAIN.

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Do not get your Hydrocodone at CVS it is made by Lupin from India and it does not work. It barely touches the pain and I even had some withdrawals sneezing and diarrhea. Not to mention the itching which I'm sure now is due to the pills.

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Lupin was warned by the FDA about their quality of generics but apparently were still allowed to have them distributed here in the US!!

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-14/fda-warns-indian-drugmaker-lupin-on-repeated-quality-violations

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Do not get the lupin brand made me sick heartbeat was messed up exhausted feeling literally felt like I was losing my mind and did nothing for the pain

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I agree the Qualifest is the best and the Watson is ok. The Lupin is the WORST!!! I had my last two prescriptions filled at "CVS" and I mean my last. The Lupin is not coated, (makes it hard to swallow) starts dissolving in the mouth before going down the throat and does NOT last as long, breaks down in the bottle into pieces. Lupin is clearly a low quality medication.

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Re: Monty (# 2)

Thank you! I tried the Tris brand and it’s like taking nothing. This is terrible. I get all my prescriptions at CVS and I’m so disappointed in them for carrying such horrible quality medication. It’s so strange what’s going on with this medicine. I’ve been suffering all month. It’s absolutely terrible. There is no way it’s a placebo thing. Too many people are complaining online and at the doctors' offices. I would love to have this tested to see just how much of the active ingredient is in them. I know about the FDA allowing up to a certain amount of difference but, I’d bet there’s hardly any active ingredient in these Triss or the Lupin. And actually there is a way to find out if one works...that is why I came on here asking. People know what helps and they don’t want to be in pain. So if it were just in people’s heads that a certain brand works more than another then it must be people that don’t have pain and want to feel high. I know if my pain is really there or not and I was looking at the new brand positive with hopes it would be just as effective. It’s all I can do to even function in this kind of pain. I said the Watson brand didn’t work as good, but these are WAY worse. It’s exhausting! I feel so bad for all the people suffering right now due to their medication not being what they were prescribed & are paying a lot of $ for it to be. There is absolutely no excuse for it. Thank you Monty for caring enough to write back & actually caring. But an answer like Verwon gave is really a waste of his and everyone else’s time. Well obviously I have to try one. I wanted advice from people who actually have tried one or both of the brands. People in pain don’t need BS “advice” like that.

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Re: Monty (# 2)

Lupin is no good had the yellow ones now Lupin a month in pain

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I agree! Been contacting alot of ppl! State rep, govenor, senator next President Trump!! Seriously!

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Re: Lynn (# 10)

Watson was sold out to Actavis. I was getting my Hydro from Walgreens and the pill said Watson but the manufacturer was Actavis. Walgreens I noticed the last prescription I got filled they changed manufacturers again. Now they have Amneal and they are lousy. All your pharmacies are going with the cheaper manufacturers and we have to suffer because they are using less ingredients. It's not fair but this is what it has come to.

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My September and October precriptions of Norco 10 from Walgreens was very weak I went into withdrawals thats when it was all over the news about people being addicted im a chronic pain patient degenerative disk osteo my hip stenosis I was taking 3 a day doing fine manage my pain tell me why did I have to suffer for those who abuse the drug

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Maddie (# 15) -

Yes doesn't it seem odd to you that they're worried about junkies abusing hydrocodone and overdosing and dying and they keep quoting the number of overdose deaths. Junkies are going to find their overdose whether it's this or something else. But I don't see them regulating cigarettes and alcohol which the government makes money off of due to the taxes. Compare the number of drunk driving related accidents/deaths, alcohol abuse-related deaths, lung cancer/second-hand smoke deaths, but nobody is regulating this. The big companies that make the spinal cord stimulators and the implant things that they make a ton of money off of who would do good to not have pain medication so available - I wonder how much money they throw at elected officials for their campaigns. He will give you all this money but we want this in return.

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Re: Bettynaily (# 21)

Totally agree! I am very sensitive to meds and the change to Lupin as started them up again and does not cover pain well either. CVS says they have no choice. You would think after all of the complaints they could for something.

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Re: Monty (# 2)

I agree!!! The qualitest worked much better for me and now CVS has given me the white Lupin Pharma 10-325's and they at NOT effective at all!!! Will be asking for "name brand" next round if there is a next round with CVS.

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For me, Lupin's a yes. I guess I am the only one here thus far that Lupin works well for. I have been a pain patient for many years, and have had many of the brands aforementioned. Lupin works as well for me as any have. The only ones that didn't help me were the white Watsons. I guess everyone's chemical makeup is a little different, as for how we respond to medicine brands, but I am fine with mine.

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So I called Watson pharmaceutical this am, 1/8/18. Watson is not making generic hydros 10/325-APAP, Teva pharmacutical is taking over their generics, for this medication! Call Teva & get the NDC # for medication you are on or call the manufacturer of your current med, then call pharmacies with NDC #. You can get a NDC # for any medication you may be on! Hope this helps! I can't take yellow (allergic to dye) Norco, can't take Percocet, been on Watson's med for years, low dosage! I have all 3 arthritis', fibromyalgia, ddd, carpal tunnel, 2004 c-spine fusion, keep a headache everyday, bone to bone in lumbar, (1 disc completely gone), had inj's. in my spine & blacked out in the doctor's office, so he refused to give anymore epiderals, which is a band-aid anyway, only lasted 2 weeks! I will not take anything morphine based!! So I am limited as to what I can take!!! Good luck! I am contacting my state rep, governor & senator about all of this!! It's not right that our quality of life is in jeopardy because others abuse & od on street drugs!! Our meds are a necessity for our lives to be productive & to pursue our dreams!!! Thx!

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Re: Roro (# 18)

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