Tramadol Shortage (Page 55) (Top voted first)
UpdatedDoes anyone know of a pharmacy with tramadol available? I tried ordering it but everyine keeps telling me its out of stock and not available until after the holidays. I run out of my rx today and can't wait until after the holidays so any help is appreciate it.
I'm speechless after reading LawLady's current posts... I'm interested in seeing if David has a rebuttal to this.
Nmo, Amen
I've noticed David hasn't responded to any of our replies. I would never intentionally attack someone and the reason for this forum in the first place is for people to feel welcome and I think that is why I was so taken by Davids words/statements. If he wanted to join in and be of help or need help he could have found it bec. honestly, out of all sites I have ever been to, I have felt the most welcome and the most helpful people I could have imagined. I too have made friends along the way who know what having no insurance is like and the nightmare of being in pain from a debilitating pain issue. It is a constant struggle. If I could just go without and be happy with aspirin, I wouldn't be here. I'm sure all of us have tried damn near all methods at this point. I hate arguing with someone I don't know and obviously everyone wants to all get along, but people like David really piss me off. I'm not defensive bec. I'm a junkie (btw David, define the word junkie. In my experience, that generally involves I.V. usage and I personally wouldn't judge that person either)). It's bec. spending this much money isn't a good experience at all, but when you have pain... you'll pay it. Even if someone on here is a junkie, i.v. user, what gives you the right to judge? Ever think this could be the site that could help someone who is going threw a struggle and wants help or wants to change? Grow up and think and do your home work from here on out and being more respectful of the kind, helpful people on here. They've been my saving grace. I'm for sure done with my comments now. I feel better. Some things you need to know.
The reason they went over their PayPal limit is because of everyone giving out their name and telling everyone about their cheap prices. It used to be a very small, unknown site that sold 1,000 for $165 and they've already doubled that. Now thanks to all of this word of mouth, it will undoubtedly double again. They have no reason not to now. Thanks a lot, people! Keep the site to yourselves!! And no, no one sells tramadol for anywhere near that low of a price and now no one will.
Seriously, STOP telling everyone about real medical. You're ruining it for the loyal customers that have used them for years. And you're not doing yourselves any favors either. You won't be able to get that deal anymore, I guarantee it.
oops. Your right Ruby. I didnt realize how many r on this site.....Now with the new laws it was bound to change anyway... nothing good last forever... thats for sure...
Those laws only extend to the US. It does not apply to other countries, and it probably won't, at least not for several years. Tramadol is over the counter in the country you're trying to order from- that's why they can sell them so cheap. But when they start getting tons of orders, the price goes way up. So the laws are irrelevant. They aren't affected by them at all.
What new laws CP?
There are no new laws here that effect other countries, like the one you're trying to order from, CP. so that wouldn't effect that site at all. And what news laws are you talking about exactly?
I don't blame Ruby for asking that her source not be shared actually. The main reason she is so protective is probably not related to price as much as it is supply. Ruby's source can only have so much $$ going through its Paypal account per month. The more patients, the more money, the quicker the source reaches its limits and then it's long time patients are SOL. The other reason is that naming your source and giving info is not always going to someone that really needs the meds. It is going to moles on the group who are law enforcement trying to reach these sources. Regardless of whether or not they are legit, they will still be investigated. Then the source gets mad because one of its patients has put it's name out there and will no longer do business with you. This happened to me recently although I was not the person who have the info out. Generally I would have no problem sharing my source, but after that disaster, I won't. That may be selfish but how do I know who I am giving my sources info to is actually a person in need or is really just an undercover? While I'm some states prescribing tramadol without a face to face is legal, in many it is not. If these sources are sending to those states that have legislation prohibiting it then they are not in accordance with the law and they will be busted and even those persons who are in states getting it legally will suffer because the source is busted and can't provide to anyone. So keeping my source to myself is not because I want all the tramadol a to myself, it is because I wish to protect my source from persons who act like they need help and gain our sympathy but are really here for a legal investigatory purpose. If you have been around long enough to get the contact info of the reliable sources you are lucky...because you will find the willingness to share will decrease because each and every person is sure to go through some sort of delay due to investigations and these long time sources won't accept new customers for fear of dealing with undercover. My advice is if you have trouble getting a script first and foremost....1. Get a shortage stash...I have 900 tablets stored in case of that event as last December I was hurting bad. The taper down process, depending on how many you take a day, should be over months. 2. Order from the online sources until you start getting phone calls asking to refill-they give your info to the people that call, those people get commission. You can switch over to using the callers and will find they can come through when the websites will not. I get so annoyed at people who complain about the calls....those are the same people that complain when they can't get any and are mad that people aren't coming thru for them.
Bottom line...be honest with yourself, this is a non-conventional way of getting medication. There is an element of legality to it, especially when you are dealing with a medication that has been established as a controlled substance in some states. Keep your source to yourself not be selfish, but to protect your source from investigation. There are plenty of ways for people who need a source to find one. When you find one...break the bank and order a ridiculous amount and put it away in a safe somewhere only to be accessed in the event if the tramadol apocalypse similar to last December. Remember, of you are ordering a controlled substance through the mail, you are capable of prosecution as well. If you receive it through USPS...that is a federal offense. I think it is great that people share withdrawal alleviating measures like Kratom and loperamide...but as far as putting sources up here, I have to advise as a health care professional and as a legal professional, that you think very carefully about what the repercussions could be for yourself medically(losing your source if you give the info to someone who is an undercover and harasses your source regardless of whether they are legit or not) and think about yourself personally and professionally. If you are a health professional you risk losing your license or atleast being put through rehab and a lot of harassment for the stats licensing agency. If your family doesn't know about your tramadol use, think of how uncomfortable it would be to have to explain that you were arrested under federal charges and if you think your tramadol use costs a lot now, wait till you get the bill for legal representation in federal court. Try to taper down as low as you can go, the fewer you take, the less likely you are to have a seizure if you are "cut off" due to losing your source or going to jail for getting controlled substance through the mail. It is sooo difficult yo get off tramadol. I have never fully been able to do it. I have gotten to about 6-8 tabs a day and within weeks went back up to 40/day when supply gets better. It is a wonderful med for pain but it is horrible beast for withdrawal. Thankfully some sites like this one have provided for withdrawal alleviates and with those I have been able to get down to 12-18 day now and hope to go down even further in the next 6 months. I do wish everyone the best with taking this medication...just please remember the legal ramifications of putting yourself and your source out there publicly.
Yes, you guys are missing something. YOU are going to suffer from telling everybody and their mom about a site with an amazing deal. That site will get a huge flux of orders and then they will start charging as much as all the other iop's. So you're not just ruining it for loyal longtime customers, you're ruining it for yourself. Get it?? If you're on a private forum, fine. But if there's an amazing gem with super low prices, don't post it on a public forum!
Roselyn: thank you! You said everything I was thinking! We're kindred spirits :) although prices do increase with influxes of new customers, you are also right about the supply issue.
WoW i think everyone should calm down and take a deep breath.... Now i was not saying any bad about Ruby and i know why she feels this way but how did anyone even find out about this pharmacy in the first place??????? Ok then if you dont want people to know then like u said yourself keep it private is all i am saying. We are all in the same boat here so lets not bicker among each other and lets help one another is all i am saying.
If you're confused as to WHY I'm saying a site will increase in price with more customers, it's because the site starts low to attract customers. Once more buy, they increase it. Then tons more buy and they can jack up the price to match competitors. So it's not me saying "don't use MY site", and it's "too bad, so sad" for YOU as well,so be snotty, but you're paying for it to.
Why does my dr keep telling me that the pain will go away when I quit taking pain meds.
Roselyn. Thanks for sharing that info. It's a scary thing knowing there are people out there pretending to be "one of us". I guess at times I allow my empathy overwhelm my decisions to help others as I live with degenerative disc. decease and sciatica, and so I don't stop and think that people could actually do that bec. I think of people needing help and so on. But, your advise is well appreciated and taken as I will be more careful from now on. Thanks again.
It sux to be hooked on this stuff. It controls my whole life. I want off so bad but I cannot handle the withdrawal. Kids, work, school...best I can do is taper down and hope for the best. I cannot stress enough how important it is to have an emergency stash set aside. Even if you have to break the bank doing it, you will be glad you did. I have a strong feeling that sooner than later tramadol will be added to the federal Controlled Substance Act list as a schedule I, then we will all be screwed. I will be forced to get off them then and will be very happy to have my tramadol apocalypse supply that's for sure. I hate sounding unemphathetic and selfish when I warn about sharing sources but it is true that this is the way the fuzz find the prescribers and harass them to the point they have to change their information completely and no longer will speak to some customers. I was told directly from my source in an email. "I don't deal with people who put my information on the chat boards" and now even though I wasn't the one that did it...I lost a source. So I do cringe whenever I see my sources up here and when a person says "tell them I sent you"...well that just sux because I know they are gonna get dumped like I was. Atleast we know there is a group of us and we aren't alone in our struggles. I wish the best outcome for every person that has crossed this board at one time or another, even those that are hateful and accusatory....they didn't find this board by accident ...no one would come to this board unless they wanted support or were looking for sources(for themselves or for law enforcement). So those that chastise I feel the worst for because they are in complete denial and will probably wake up and find themselves in the same position we have all come to be in. Like I said, I wish the best to every person who has become a victim of this wonderful yet devastating drug.
Roselyn, you're exactly right. You all may think its "selfish" and that you're only helping other people, but you're not. You're hurting yourself as well as everyone else. You don't plaster the name of a source like that on a public forum! It's extremely detrimental and not only because of the inevitable price increase, but for the source itself. The owner of that site doesn't want to be as well known as they now are. He's at risk of being shut down. So, think twice before you post something on a PUBLIC forum to "help". You don't know who these people are, and don't you think the legit people are going around spreading the name also? That's what happens to EVERY great source that's shut down in the past. People don't seem to understand that. So angikay, maybe you should rethink your comment. You're not helping ANYONE throwing around names of awesome sources. You know all of those solid sources that suddenly disappeared? Yeah, it was because of what you're doing- making a little-known source public. Thinking everyone here is just a tramadol user in need is not realistic.
Angikay,you're the one "beating a dead horse" spouting off about all of this like I burned your house down or something. You insulted me, I retorted with a logical comment. Let it go. And by the way, did I single you out at all as being the person who told people about ANY source?? You weren't even the one who posted it in the first place.
Roselyn, some of us are in pain and use online pharmacies because of no insurance. We get a prescription, we fill out questinaires and in many cases also speak to the doctors. So I don't worry about undercover agents trying to get me. If the govt decides it doesn't like the way these places operate, they will go after the olps or the drs, not the customers. I take my six pills a day, and am mostly pain free, but when the six a day doesn't work I add some ibuprofen. The point is to get the pain to a manageable level. Don't add paranoia to the mix. I have ordered from overseas and inwent thru the same protocal--if my package had been stopped, the pharmacy would have dealt with it because I had a prescription. I imagine the feds have enough to do going after people selling herion on the silk road. Why would they bother people who have a prescription?
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