T 194 Yellow Pill (Page 9)
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I have a T 194 yellow pill that says it's a percocet 10mg, but when taking it, it made me feel super weird and my chest hurt. Is this a possible side effect?

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MEJANE; all pain meds - The FDA isn't requiring Pharm. Co. to list what has been added to pain meds in fear of someone finding a way to remove it, or how it has reduced the effectiveness of pain meds. Pain meds only help with about 20% of pain relief. It's the ability of the brain to change the feeling of pain to a good feeling, that is what helps make life worth living to someone in pain. The government doesn't want people in pain to feel anything but pain. Some people are looking for a way to KILL themselves or someone else because they are mentally ill and their families want to blame it on anything but mental illness, God for bid that. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, people in pain aren't responsible for them.

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Re: Michelle (# 163)

You are 100% correct. Using us experimenting with our health behind our backs without our consent FDA & Gov’t indeed have changed the 20% reduction in percocet/generic effectiveness...ie; 10mg=8mg also adding harmful filler’s making us sick to detour effects of the effectiveness of petuitary gland production of good feeling endorphine/seratonins.

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Re: painpt2 (# 164)

The t194s I notice you use the "W" sometimes and the "R" sometimes. Now the "W" could be Walmart but when you say "W" bought out "R" I think you are referring to Walgreens not to be confused with "W"almart. "W" did buy some "R"s but not all "R"s. Some "R" are not "W" yet but are starting to sell the worthless t194s that make most people sick and don't relieve pain. Sometimes the "R" and the "W" are confused by people with speech impediments. Like I threw a "W"ock at a "W"abbit but you can never change the "W" and "R" in that case. In that case the "R" will never become a "W". The first amendment allows you to say Walgreen's perks sucks or Rite Aid's perks suck. Now "W"almart's Mallinckrodt 10/325 perks beat out most of what's on the market. Now Mallinckrodt's Adderall generic sucks. Doctors want it taken off the market but Mallinckrodt filled a lawsuit. Even though the FDA knows it's no good they cant take it off the market till the lawsuit goes to court. By that time they can make $millions off a worthless drug. So I'm saying the FDA f...n sucks. They don't protect people till a lot of people die or suffer a lot from bad drugs.

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Re: Michelle (# 163)

Thanks. I know it's not "all in my head." And it's not all in yours either.

Tonight I received a phone call from an out-of-state area code & a number I didn't recognize. It was some woman asking for me by name. I'm always leery of these kinds of calls & asked who was calling. She replied she was calling on behalf of "W" to inform me that on 3-27 my prescriptions from "R" will be transferred to the 24-hour "W" up the street. I told her I was aware of this & how I hate "W" w/ the fire of a thousand suns for them closing down this "R" location which, until last week, everyone working there had been told would remain open, just rebranded. (I wasn't rude to her. I just stated my opinion. She hung up.) Last week they were putting up the posters announcing the store is closing on 3-27. The two full-time pharmacists w/ whom I've had a relationship for nearly 10 years still don't know where they'll end up. One is the pharmacy mgr at the "R". If she & the other pharmacist are "assimilated" into "W", particularly if they're sent up the street to the zoo that's known as the 24-hour "W", do you really think she'll still be a pharmacy mgr? She sounded very worried. She's been at the same store for 16 years.

On a note (related to this whole topic), they ordered & received the former generic "brand" of Percocet they filled my script with a couple of times before filling it w/ this worthless yellow T-194 junk a month earlier. It's not great, but at least it helps some.

I still intend to check w/ my doctor about having something compounded.

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Re: painpt2 (# 149)

I understand fully what your are explaining! Kmart has been my pharmacy for almost 6 years (when I originally prescribed pain medication & anti-depressants) they have always treated me with the utmost respect, never made me feel uncomfortable & always had my medications on the day each one was due to be filled. In addition, my generic Percocet was a round light yellow color & worked well for my pain. Now all the Kmart’s are closing. Right before they closed one of my other prescriptions which was always a small pink pill, one month suddenly was a white pill. I didn’t notice until the day after I picked it up & opened the new bottle when my other bottle ran out. I was immediately set back & thought perhaps they’d accidentally given me the wrong pill? It was early morning before the pharmacy opened, that was the first time I used google to research a pill. Boy was I shocked! I read the first 40 complaints about how ineffective my new medication was & many had written the pharmaceutical company and the FDA about the medication & none received any response! When Kmart opened I called the pharmacy mgr (who like you have, I had gotten to know & feel comfortable with over the years) he assured me the medication was “the same & simply a different company & not to believe what I read on the internet” so I took the medication the entire month. It was indeed ineffective! So the next month I took only that prescription to W & explained to that pharmacy mgr how Kmart had changed pharmaceutical companies for that one medication & it did not work for me. He had no issue filling it for me. (Oh & first I went to CVS where they refused to do it!) After about 4 months of doing this, I was out of town & didn’t return home until after 9 pm when that Walgreens was closed so I took my prescibtion 9 miles down the same road to the 24 hour Walgreens, they filled it but that locations pharmacy mgr is the one who rang me out & apparently he looked into my entire prescription history (I had been 100% honest with the other Walgreens about what & why I was doing what I was doing!) he very sharply informed me I could no longer fill this one prescription at W because he noticed my other prescriptions were filled at Kmart. I tried to explain to him exactly why I was doing this, just as I had explained to the other W pharmacy mgr! Kmart & a contract with a new pharmaceutical company & the pharmacy mgr there could not simply order my original brand! He did not care & told me I could not fill at ANY W! Wow!!!

Now, regarding these particular Percocet, I switched to a local grocery store & I don’t receive these but I also don’t receive my Percocet I received at Kmart for almost 6 years! My new ones don’t cause all these side effects however, I’m 100 % positive my new medication is NOT as effective & wears off much quicker!! I talked to my psychiatrist about this (he doesn’t prescribe my pain medication but I wanted to discuss if this was possible “in my head” and not true fact!) he assured me this issue IS NOT IN OUR HEADS! ALL GENERIC MEDICATIONS DO HAVE DIFFERENT FILLERS & MOST IMPORTANTLY & SHOCKING TO ME, ALL GENERIC MEDICATION CAN LEGALLY BE UP TO 20 % LESS ACTIVE INGREDIENT AND STILL PASS THE FDA & YOUR LABEL WILL STILL READ 10 MG even when the active ingredient may only be 8 mg! This makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU TAKE PAIN MEDICATION EVERY 4-6 HOURS AND EACH DOSE IS 20% LESS ACTIVE INGREDIENT (and has different fillers!) You can even find this information on the FDA website after you search it, you will find this information printed very small!!

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Re: FibroFighter2 (# 20)

It's all about money. They could care less about the customers. Ever since the government has stuck their noses into our medical affairs the people that actually need them are suffering. I know there is a problem with overdoses but the bottle is clearly marked. Why do I have to suffer because someone else abused them? I have taken pain relief meds for my back for 20 yrs and I still take 3 a day but since this all this stuff on TV and pressure being put on your Dr and this new stuff they are selling I've actually had to take 4 sometimes 5 to get any relief.

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JMJ (# 158) --

I let my doctors know that I changed pharmacies I also let them know that Walgreens had changed companies that they were getting their medication from and it made me very sick I was very honest with them. when you do it that way it's not considered jumping companies or Pharmacy hopping or what have you. I am very open and honest with my doctors. I try to let them know if something is not working for me be it a pharmacy or something that they are giving me. I find that that works best for me and usually when I give that advice to other people they seem to find it works best for them also.

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Re: Poohsy (# 157)

Poohsy, good advice. If their is something in the ingredients that he is allergic to, the benadryl should offset that. Plus it would help if he could ask around to find out what brand is carried at different pharmacies, then he could make a choice. The pharmacies are reluctant to answer questions as to the brand of generic opioids. Usually have to ask in person, explaining that you have an upcoming script and need to avoid the Camber pills, due to upset stomach, headaches, etc. Being matter of fact, pleasant, well groomed is a must. Do not complain about lack of potency. Stick to possible allergy to fillers.

What I don't understand is how is it that people can just change up their pharmacy. Is it because it is a new script every month? I thought changing pharmacies is a big no no. That to change or shop for a better one, with a better generic is pharmacy shopping and not allowed. Is there a way to do this without being flagged as a seeker?

Of course, in my view we should be able to seek better generics and better service, if we are not satisfied with our experience at the one we have stated as our primary pharm.

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Re: Bert (# 156)

Ewwww, not good. :( I would take your new yellows back to your dr. and surrender them for a new script, obviously tell your dr about your negative symptoms, and hopefully he'll write you a new prescription, if that is a bit too scary, inform your pharmacist and ask them to order you the script from the original company. If they aren't willing, go to a different pharmacy. I hope that you get through this month and your nasty side effects subside. It's scary and downright unethical, what is happening to people who require and depend on pain pills to function and live a semblance of a normal life. My hopes and prayers for all. Fight for your rights as a human!!!

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Re: Bert (# 156)

Bert that sounds like the same thing we've all been going through unfortunately there's nothing you can do until you get your new script and go to another Pharmacy. my suggestion is to try and take maybe a Benadryl with them and see if that helps or at least calms it down just a little bit. I hope you get some relief. Good luck and remember when you go to get your new scripts to go somewhere else. I don't know where you live or if there's a CVS around but that's where I went. I hope this helps.

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Maybe you should go back and read these posts that we've posted. We're genuinely getting sick from the t194. Nausea, headaches, chest pains, etc. There are more, I could go on but I won't. I will let you go back and read these posts as you should if you want to be in the conversation. These things are making people sick. It's not that we're looking for euphoria, they're not helping with pain. We are not looking for a high. We are in genuine pain. That's why we are in pain management. I myself have been in pain management for 10 years. I know there are people who look down upon us because we have to take pain medication daily. People who think we are addicts. The difference between us and those on the street is that we get ours legally, we know what we're doing and we don't abuse them. As far as getting mary jane as you put it for help with pain, believe it or not there are some people who are allergic to that. He can't go to that for help. There are some people who are not interested in going to that for help. But then there are people who are addicted to that also. Perhaps you are. Perhaps you go to that for that euphoric high? Maybe you shouldn't call the kettle black before you look at yourself. Please read all of the other posts and you'll see that these are making other people sick. Thank you.

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Re: LaLa (# 7)

Same same for me. I have been taking Percocet and other generic versions of it for about 11 years. I just picked up the new YELLOW pills and have had what appears to be allergic reactions twice. I get all sweaty, feel week and tired, and like I have a huge gas bubble right where my heart is. Thing is, having been taking these several times a day for years now, I have little choice but keep taking them. Not sure what to do about it.

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The truth sounds like it was taken off its mommy's t*tty to soon and the only pain it ever felt was mommy slapping it's behind when it was 16 still trying to nurse.

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It's the war on drugs people. We are on the bottom of the agenda, anyone with cancer or serious pain. Why? Cause of those folks selling them and abusing them. Game Over!!!! Go to medical Mary Jane (420). If you are serious about managing your pain get a card, a doc, & vape your pain away. It works. The T194 work. Ahhhhhhh what's wrong, you ain't getting that euphoric rush. Game Over. That's what causing the issue of addiction. It has nothing to do with your pain. Now these companies like the tobacco folks are getting sued. Yup, attorneys need to get paid too and they find any loop hole to do so. I feel your pain, however this is the way it will be from here on out. You wanna fight back, boycott the damn pills and go to medical 420. It works... No more pills, no more worrying about your liver. God bless you all and I wish everyone good health and pain free. Don't complain, fight back. Throw them pills away and go holistic with medical 420...

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I received these and I have not felt better. You all are looking to get that euphoric effect, the hell with pain relief. Once you admit that move on. I've been on all of them high as a damn bat (forget that s***) and I have some major issue like Cancer. These pills are fine. Why? They work and I don't feel any pain. I'm super focused, no itching. Hell, I feel sober and it's great without pain and being high. You all need to be honest here with yourselves. You're looking for that Ahhhhhhh euphoric feeling bull crap. These pills are just fine.

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Re: joe (# 14)

You're looking to feel high then.. Those Actavis A333 garbage got me away from walgreens, my pharmacy was out. Had to go. Walgreens did not give me Actavis thank God. I received the T 194 yellow endo. And let me tell you I have not felt this good in years. Pain was gone, I was more focused, had energy I have not had in years. Listen, if you wanna get stoned, consume marijuana. Tired of taking a pill to feel stoned and like non motivated and still have pain. There is nothing wrong with these ends if you are taking it for the right reasons.

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Re: joe (# 14)

Yes - I am the wife of a disabled veteran(since 1971) he has had severe(Or worse as he has aged) pain for several years. (Due to several falls from head injuries-he also has chronic pain from spinal injuries-he had a stroke in 2015) The hospital who did surgery in 2015 had him on percoset (oral -plus injection). Later in 2016 they moved him to hydrocodone/then ox ycodone w/acetyminophen. I think now they have changed him to the generic's. I am so upset to see (after all his suffering) that the doctor's have the ability to do this for a Veteran. (the Veteran's of our country deserv e what they exceptionally require for their pain and suffering if it is the best for them daily!

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Re: JMJ (# 145)

Yes, even after my experience w/ "R" pharmacy the past 9-10 years, when I told one of the two pharmacists who's been there forever yesterday that I was getting no pain relief from the Camber "brand," he kind of shrugged & seemed baffled. He didn't say in so many words that *I* was the only person who has complained, but I'm sure I'm not. After all, "R" is now "W"!

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I posted a few weeks ago (#68) about my experience w/ the Camber "Percocets." It was not good. Just to update, I went for my 3-month nurse visit at my doctor's office yesterday, part of the contract w/ my doctor to prescribe a 30-day supply at a time. I was chatting w/ the receptionist/office manager on the way out & commented that (1) my pharmacy of choice ("R"), which was recently bought out by "W", had dispensed this Camber "generic brand" last month & how ineffective they've been, and that (2) if this refill wasn't effective I would be talking w/ the doctor about compounding something similar. She said, "You wouldn't believe how many patients have said the same thing the past couple of months, and the one thing in common in most cases is 'W'." Of course, "R" is now "W," but I've had a relationship w/ the two staff pharmacists at "R" for nearly 10 years. I know them by name & they me, even the two pharmacy techs. Those folks couldn't have been nicer over the years. Never have I felt "judged" by any of them for having an opiate script filled.

Flash forward to yesterday afternoon when I simply dropped off my script (that isn't due to be filled until Monday). I had already called & asked a couple weeks ago if they could order (and actually get) something besides Camber. The lead pharmacist said they'd received some Rhodes "generic brand" which, while it wasn't the most effective I've ever tried, beat the heck out of Camber which didn't seem to make a dent in the pain. So they confirmed yesterday they have the Rhodes & will fill it w/ that "brand" Monday. We shall see.

On the way out, after being told last month that "this" "R" location would remain & just be rebranded "W", long-faced workers were putting up big posters near the front of the store that said this location would close on 3-27. I marched back to the pharmacy & asked if this is really true! Yes, they said, and they don't even know where they're being transferred. The posters (and the pharmacist confirmed) all their scripts are being transferred to the 24-hour "W" up the street. I absolutely HATE that store! It's like a zoo all the time, and the staff there is SO rude!

I can't remember if I mentioned this before, but for a few months this past summer & fall, I was literally STUCK after being referred to a PM "specialist" back in June for the treatment of RSD that developed in my right hand/arm after a severe fracture & surgery to repair it. My PCP was uncomfortable prescribing while I was under the care of a surgeon, and I'm completely open & honest w/ ALL doctors concerning what I receive & who prescribes it. My PCP backed out of prescribing pain meds until the PM "specialist" released me... which he finally did in late November. (The surgeon was done after one week.)

This PM "specialist" seemed to be using me as a "science experiment" of sorts. He wanted to rx gabapentin or other types of drugs. I've had serotonin syndrome three times. I cannot take anything (SSRIs, gabapentin, tramadol) which greatly increases serotonin. So he prescribed about 1/3 of the dose of the regular short-acting pain med my PCP was giving for the "almost daily" pain (from several sources, but chronic, w/ the fractured arm & RSD on top of all that) & even convinced me to try something called "Butrans patch" (the lowest dose made). I tried it. I had to go to three different "W" pharmacies w/i a few miles of each other to actually find one that had it. NONE were willing to order it. Rather they just referred me to "the location up the street." After all, there's a "W" about every three blocks around here! Little did I know the stupid state (TN) "flagged" me for using more than 3 pharmacies. They were all "W" locations! Their records are all connected. I'm not trying to hide anything, but that's how the state of TN (and apparently many other states) now "think." IOW, they don't THINK! And all the Butrans patch did was break me out in a rash. It didn't help w/ pain at all. (My PCP told me, after hearing about that, that the PM "specialist" was trying to "force" me into withdrawals. Apparently Butrans does that if you're dependent? Well, it didn't work, if that was his intent. My PCP says HE knows I'm not dependent, and *I* know I'm not dependent, so WTH?

Anyway, "R" filled a script w/ Rhodes about 3 months ago, and the first month it was fairly effective. The next time, maybe 2, that they filled it w/ Rhodes, it didn't seem as effective. This isn't a tolerance issue. I've ALWAYS been HIGHLY tolerant to any type of opioid or sedative. They find it difficult to even knock me out for surgery or "procedures," much less simply "sedate" me. I can take doses that would knock many people cold & not realize I've received anything. That's apparently just some recessive gene b/c neither of my parents was like that. A tiny dose of anything would knock my mom cold! I've never abused any type of drug... never tried any type of street drug, including marijuana, and I don't drink. It just is what it is, and I have no explanation nor can I help it. When I told the PM "specialist" that last summer he commented I shouldn't say that b/c it just tells him "I'm abusing drugs." Uh, no. It's just telling the truth, and I do NOT abuse drugs. I actually have a pretty high tolerance to pain... undergone nerve blocks w/ nothing which amazed the doctor & nurses, but at least I was allowed to drive afterwards which I would not have been had they "sedated" me. Opioids do not make me "feel good" or "feel" anything. They either take the edge off pain or they don't. Period. I work full-time, 6-7 days a week, and on the bad days the medication just allows me to function & be productive.

I shall see how this next refill w/ Rhodes works. If it doesn't, and now w/ my friendly "R" store closing & my two pharmacists w/ whom I've had a relationship for the past 9-10 years are gone... I may be looking more seriously into having something compounded if my doctor is agreeable.

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Re: FibroFighter2 (# 6)

Your Right Fibro, not as effective. Didn't like them at all.

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