Subutex To Methadone (Page 3) (Top voted first)

I go to the clinic and get methadone but missed a day, so i took a half a subutex. Within 15 min it sent me into immediate withdrawal. How long should i wait to take my methadone again? Is it going to send me into worse withdrawal?

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DONES101: I hear ya. Those precips are NASTY stuff. People mistakenly think that if it's just Subutex, without the Naloxone, then you can mix the two. Not so. It is the BUPE ITSELF that is the problem. The Naloxone is only in there to keep people from administering it intravenously, and is hardly even bioavailable if taken sublingually. Once you go through those precips, you will do ANYTHING to never have them again. I had no idea what real withdrawal even was! That methadone takes so long to get out of your system, the doctors don't even want to mess with you as far as Bupe unless you are down to 30 mgs or below, and have been off the methadone for at least 72 hours.

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You are totally wrong. Subutex works just like naloxone, well it displaces all the methadone in the mu receptors with bubenorphin which is a weaker opiate. So thats what causes withdrawals. I know from experience and research. OPEN A BOOK OR GOOGLE IT. YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING HERE.

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You can take methadone on top of subutex, just never take subs on methadone.

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THOR777: Amazing how many people are completely clueless about the things they put in their bodies, eh? And to make matters worse, these same clueless people will turn around and have the NERVE to dispense this misinformation to others!!! Ugh.

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DONES101: And what you said about Subuxone/Subutex/Naloxone is MOSTLY true, but since Naloxone is an opioid antagonist (blocker), as is Bupe, yes it can throw you into withdrawal. But not from taking it sublingually. Naloxone is less than 5% percent bioavailable when taken sublingually, but 100% bioavailable when administered intravenously. So if you inj. it, it will indeed put you into withdrawal. Naloxone is what is used in emergency rooms and by paramedics when someone overdoses on opioids. But it's not the thing that causes withdrawal when taken under the tongue; that would be the Bupe itself.

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If you took Subutex, then it did not send you into withdrawals, you are most likely experiencing withdrawal from missing your Methadone, you probably didn't take an equivalent dose of the Subutex.

Subutex only contains the opiate Buprenorphine, it doesn't contain the Naloxone like Suboxone does, which is what could cause someone to go into precipitated withdrawals.

These medications are listed by the FDA as carrying the risk of being habit forming and may cause side effects, such as nausea, dizziness, headache, dry mouth and constipation.

You should double check with your doctor, before taking anything, however.

Is there anything else I can help with?

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hi taking subutex now wanna start meth but am afraid bigtime when is best time to start my meth?? thank u and godbless

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What was actually said was the person didn't take enough subutex. It takes more subutex to make up for methadone. Methadone is alot worse then subutex. I never have done the methadone but have seen alot of people that was on it and they was so messed up he couldn't figure out how to get past the wall and took care of kids while on it well needless to say kids got hurt and taken from the parents they never got them back. I guess the methadone meant more than there 3 children. I don't want anything like that the subutex has saved me alot of money and helps tremendously if i could find a doctor in INDIANA not to high priced to prescribe subutex to me it wouldn't bother me to pay for the script instead of paying 30 to 50 a pop. But not anymore I'll just do a little subutex and im good. Just want my own doctor and prescription, wouldn't sell em at all.

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I took 90 mg's of Mdone from one of the best pain doctors in the country. Then took 4-30 mg's of roxi for 7 days, then 4-10mg roxi's, then went cold turkey which didn't work and I was in severe pain due to hernations and ruptured disc's. My dr. then had me take 4-10mg roxi's and 2-8mg subutex pills A day. Never a withdraw then I went back on methadone and 2-15 mg's Roxi's a day. Things are great. Ask your doctor. It's all about your quality of life. I am opioid dependent so I am basically an addict. Murph

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I made the same mistake today, missed a dose of methadone and took a subutex. I am wondering, were you ok when you took your next dose?

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Yes thank you. This verwon guy telling people that "as long as its just subutex your fine"....well he's just plain WRONG and i wish he would stop dispensing incorrect advice. ugh, this guy. I have been there PERSONALLY. Also the naloxone is in there so u cant abuse the subutex.

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I wanted to pass from the methadone program to subutex but i precipitated in withdrawal. Have been suffering for 3 days and now i am thinking to go back on the methadone program. I took subutex for only 3 days, i want to know if i will have withdrawals? Can anyone tell me?

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Don't wanna argue but from personal experience I've taken my 8mg subutex and few hrs later did 5 30mg roxys and was not sick I felt awesome! Just sayin! Idk about methadone though I assume the same.... keyword assume... also was admitted to hospital they know I take the subtex and had serious blood infection from a hemoraging cyst and they put me on morphine and diliud iv and wasn't sick at all... but everyone is different and I DO NOT suggest to follow what I've done in past I have a crazy tolerance with things I've done I'm lucky to be alive! I just wanted y'all to know my experience. Like I said we're all different physically and mentally! Thank you and I hope I don't upset anyone! I apologize if I do... this was my past and it was generic subs aka bupernorphine... I say listen to the ppl telling you to wait! My friend had opposite feeling I did so like I said we're all different! I worked for my old sub Dr so I've seen some be sick as he'll others just fine and some that did H while on it which we'd kick out after 3 strikes...

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No that is fine. Just dont try taking the subutex too soon after the opiates.it will put you into immediate precipitated withdrawal. The worst that will happen if you take other opiates too soon after
subs is that they will be blocked and relief will be minimal.

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I have been taking 8 mg Dilauda for a few years now I normally take 3-4 a day but I only had 4 mg around noon yesterday I want to start taking
Subutex and I am already in a stage of withdrawal.. does anyone kno how long the recommended time before taking Subutex after opiates..

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WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE!!! i cannot stress this enough. i dont know exactly how long dilaudid takes to get out of your system, but with methadone its 48 hours minimum to be safe, before taking subs. And please dont listen to anyone on here who tries to tell you that since its SUBUTEX rather than SUBOXONE, you can take it right away. YOU CANT. i was always on subutex, NOT suboxone, and i took it 8-10 hours after opiates. BIG MISTAKE. i have never been in such horrible withdrawals. my husband started feeding me trazadone til i finally passed out. i was climbing the walls and begging him to knock me out or smother me with a pillow. it was AWFUL.

now if you are already in withdrawal, then you might be ok. sounds like its been at least 24 hours now for you. the key is being in withdrawal. i mean REAL withdrawal. you have to be getting pretty dang sick before you start the subs. i would wait as long as possible, but if you are getting really sick and think you are in full-on withdrawal, then you are probably ok to start. how much are you planning to take? do you have the 2mg pills or the 8 mg? i would start with a 2mg pill if you have those, and wait to see how you feel in about 45 min to an hour. if you start feeling worse, DO NOT TAKE ANY MORE. if you are ok, or even feeling a little better, take another 2mg. let me know how it goes.

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I took methadone yesterday and subutex today, and I'm in withdrawal. What do I do? Take more subutex?

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LAURACHELL: Yes, it is. You are wrong. There's not much more to say than that. Subutex (Buprenorphine HCL) is indeed a partial opioid antagonist, which means, in your simple terms, that is IS a "block". The drug ITSELF is the "block". The Naloxone (the thing that you are mistakenly thinking is doing the "blocking") is only in there to keep it from being used intravenously, and has low bioavailability when taken sublingually. So, in laymen's terms, you are wrong and are dispensing bad advice.

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I took subutex after H and methadone. I was on 50mg for 5 days while taking H the whole time. Then the same day after my dose I took an 8mg subutex. I didn't feel euphoric but i damn sure didn't go into wds. I am also a 16yr vet so my tolerance is pretty high..i would just say from all this, mixing anything is a pretty risky business.

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I went to a treatment center today and they gave me 8mg subutex for w/d relief from opiate abuse. An hour later I'm in the emergency room shaking, sweating, cold (80 degrees outside) and my legs hurting. Will this happen every time I take it? Should I switch to methadone?

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