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I live in a very small town and the number of doctors here is limited. The number of good doctors is almost nonexistent. I'm finding that calling for an appointment as a new patient the office staff says right away, "We don't prescribe pain meds"! Also have heard "We don't take fibromyalgia patients"! This is said before I ever state what I need to be seen for. Assuming I did have pain, do I no longer have the right to have my pain relieved? I'm so offended by this. If you have chronic pain you are treated like a leper. Apparently it is automatically assumed you have a drug problem. Going to other towns is the same. No wonder people self medicate. Is this happening all over the country?

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Yes, this is a problem. But not just for the reasons people seem to be talking about.

Pain doctors are under increasing scrutiny regarding the medications they prescribe, as are all specialists.

My psychiatrist (who I see for sleep deprivation and the resulting depression that comes from not sleeping for days on end) was served notice from our state board that he was prescribing too many anti-psychotics and anti-depressants due to new standards in place thanks to the (Un)Affordable Health Care(less) Act.

He's a fricking psychiatrist for crying out loud.

My pain specialist, a neurologist who also practices sports and emergency medicine, is under constant threat of having his Schedule II prescription being denied because of Obamacare's increased governmental meddling and the crap science it promotes.

Now with every visit, I have to give a u/a to be sure I have therapeutic levels of morphine in my system. Because the state wants to make sure I am only barely able to walk. While the person who put me in this state of constant agony is living large on the state's teat in prison with his free medical, cable tv, air conditioning, crunchy or creamy peanut butter depending on his mood, and his cellie "girlfriend" for the next 25 years.

But I'm not bitter. Angry, but not bitter. Because I read the law. It took me nearly a year to do so, but I read it. I nearly went blind, but I did something that only a handful of Congressional aides did...because none of the jerks who voted for it read it. I can guaran-durn-tee it.

The insurance companies campaigned and wrote the law so that it is nearly impossible to get the care you need. No matter what it is.

It isn't political... It is strictly financial...

It isn't personal... It's business...

Some states allow you to grow and keep a certain level of medical, and in some cases recreational, marijuana. We'll be retiring to one of those states before much longer because it is becoming so difficult to get the meds I need. After all, THC is much less habit-forming than the multiple forms and doses of morphine I take every day just to function or the Ambien I need to get a few hours of sleep every few days. I'll still have to deal with pain, but not as much. I'll still be a little overweight, but that is just how it will have to be. And my blood pressure won't be a problem anymore...because I won't be stressed about having to cope with whether I can get a pharmacy to fill my prescriptions.

So look to your legislators and ask them why you cannot get the meds you need. They are the ones who did this to us.

Sure there are abuses. There are abuses is every system where the government decides to stick its nose and tell people how they can and cannot live.

Again, it isn't political...It's financial...

And until an informed public stands up for their rights and votes, not for the person who talks a good game and promises free stuff, but instead for the person who has a track record of making positive things happen and takes personal responsibility when things don't go right, things will never get better.

Because it is too easy to just sit back and grab the freebies they throw out to distract us while they obliterate our rights--to quality care, to freedom, to security.

Again...it's not personal... It's business...

And it's high time we made it our business to know what they are up to and how it screws us over.

So, yes. Yes it is happening all over the country.

It is happening to young and old, "rich" and poor (but mostly poor and middle class), smart and not-so-smart, healthy and not-so-healthy citizens.

How do we fix it? That is a question I don't have an answer to right now. But I do know that it is up to each of us to educate ourselves on our health situation and what alternatives are available in our care. Because one day filling a prescription simply won't be an option anymore.

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@BL what is your problem? Dr. have a responsibility to their patients to address EVERY ailment that they PAY their doctors to discuss with them. it is their job to make their patients feel better. whether it be a simple cold or with pain. i am not sure who the hell you are with but you are not needed here with that attitude. i hate last word people. annoying as h3ll.

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Help!!! Ive made several posts and all are under review, nothing crazy just simple questions and answers.

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It just seems BL pops up no matter where I post and always says negative things that are very hurtful. It's made me reluctant to say anything, anymore. He speaks like he is (or thinks he is) a medical authority. I have felt targeted. So unfair, when he or she doesn't know all the facts.

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Let's not attack BL! They are very helpful and misunderstandings happen.

How is everyone doing?

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Ron, Thank You for clarifying. I apologize for misunderstanding. Seems like I've done a lot of that in this thread.

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BL You seem to always scrutinize people's words,shame on you.When I say educate me,I'm asking to talk to me,tell me about changes,that will affect me in any way,that might cause unexpected problems on my monthly visit. Are you following me BL,well one of the first thing we learn in school is the alphabets,so we can learn how to,here we go BL COMMUNICATE.Let me know is any procedures change any thing ,it would make every one and this world a better place to live.So BL if I sound like a jerk I'm sorry,you know that I just communicated how I felt toward you and my self.And I truly mean I'm sorry.Now to most of the people who are having problems with a Pharmacist or staff member,when was the last time you heard a true meant sorry from your great Pharmacy Team.

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It's no problem, really..This subject makes people mad, me included. There are people out there who make it hard for us to get pain relief, from some doctors who refuse to prescribe to those addicts, drug seekers and doctor shoppers..Not all of us are doing those things as have documented illnesses and injuries.. To me, it's infuriating and irritating that someone who has documented needs cannot get pain relief..

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It's quite ok..I could see how things can get mixed up. It is a, shame, I will say because I've gone through it too, people who need their pain addressed only get it acknowledged. In other words, I've had some doctors say, yes you are in pain, but I'm not going to do anything about it. I recently had a partial leg amputation and I screamed in pain in the hospital for 4 days before they could get the medicine right and I got relief. It was hell...There are so many people in pain for lots of reasons and cannot afford, do not have a doctor, etc..It's very sad.. And the rules, are ridiculous. The majority of people on pain management play by the rules, etc. Follow protocol by not abusing, selling, trading, giving away, etc..It's the drug seekers, drug abusers that make it hard for legitimate people like us to get pain relief. And make it hard to find a doctor. And it's country wide too..Sorry..I got on my high horse. It makes me furious that people have to suffer. It's not right or fair either. I suffered for over 20 years before I found a doctor. Nobody should have to suffer that long or go without pain relief because if poor insurance or low money..I see this problem every day all day long and then people who assume that we are druggie because we are in pain..

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BL
hat is not what I said. One more time: I have the right to have my pain ADDRESSED by my Health Care Provider.
I was not calling for an appointment to get pain meds in the first place!!! But if I have the need to have pain addressed, it will be done.
Please re-read my original post carefully and the followup "to be clear". Pain is not the focus of my discussion.

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Angelina, I apologize for misunderstanding.

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Why are people afraid to go to a pain management Dr.? Your PC Dr. can't write scrips for pain because people have abused pain meds. My pain management Dr. has all my records and knows where my pain is and why I have pain. But most of all he knows my workout routine and what I personally do to help me manage my pain along with meds. You can't depend on meds alone as a cure; learn to help yourself with yoga, aquatics, massage therapy, meditation, etc. Be your own best advocate.

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I was speaking about a hospital setting. Hence. The sign at the Hospital. Please do not respond to what you think I am saying. I said a sign at a hospital which means in a hospital setting. No, in the real world we don't have the right to have our pain controlled. That is why I suffered, and I do mean suffered for over 20 years before I found a very good pain doctor. A good pain Doctor will help you, providing you have the correct documentation, x-rays, mri's, cat scans etc..

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I was speaking about a hospital setting. Hence. The sign at the Hospital

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No Paddle, The right to have your pain management in a hospital setting where you don't control the pain meds you receive is Not the same as having a Dr write you a rx outside a hospital setting. The Joint Commission oversees hospital settings. Put Joint Commission in Google, when you are at the site put Pain Management in the search bar there.

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In the local hospital there is a sign that states, and I quote, "You as a patient have a right to have your pain controlled". Their sign,not mine... I'm just saying...

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Absolutely, it is happening all over the country. I have a pain physician but needed a family doctor to treat other illnesses. As the nurse called me back before I even opened my mouth she said, "we do not treat chronic pain"! I responded, " I wasn't asking you to treat chronic pain you dummy"!.. Then she said, "Oh"! If you have chronic pain, get a pain doctor who is very good. I have one of the best in the state I live in. It is true, that, if you have pain and go to a family doctor that they think you are 1) drug seeking, 2) an addict or 3) looking for pills to sell. Unfortunately, we with chronic pain, arthritis, spinal stenosis, degenerative disc and joint disease, scoliosis or have broken your spine at some point in your life, which all of the above apply to me are looked upon as drug seeking addicts. Its a fact because there are so many of the drug seekers, addicts etc, all of us are thought as such. Its very sad in this day and age too. I have a wonderful relationship with my pain doctor and I have NEVER, sold, traded or have given away my medications to anyone. They are that to me, medications. I never call them pills and everyone I know around me abuses, buys off the street and every month takes too much and run out of theirs. I did for about 11 months run out every month but couldn't figure out why.. I explain this later on... Its an illness just like any other except this one ruins families because people who are addicted often steal from their loved ones. My husband used to steal mine while I was going through chemotherapy and every month I would run out and I suffered.. I couldn't figure out why. My husband would never steal from me, the person he loved so much! I was naive and very wrong. I bought a very good safe and that ended that!!! If you do get on pain management, protect yourself by buying a safe and tell as few people as possible because many people you will now will be more of a friend because you have pain medications now. It happened to me!! Oh, she's got pain medications now so I will try to borrow from her!! It still happens even though I say know. Drug seekers can also spot you 10 miles away. When it comes to drugs, people's radars go off..

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To be clear, my post was supposed to reflect the fact that patients that call a Dr for an appointment are told immediately, "We don't take fibromyalgia patients", and "We don't prescribe pain meds". This is said before I mention I wanted to be seen for possible thyroid testing. I do happen to have fibro, but they didn't know that. And I do, if needed, have the right to have my pain "addressed".

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Ron, drs don't work at the pharmacy or insurance company. They have no way of knowing what problems patients may encounter. Insurance companies pay drs to diagnosis and treat you. What you're talking about would require an enormous amount of time and insurance companies won't pay for it. But, you can pay out of pocket. Drs cab advise you on your health and procedures. But the education you're referring to isn't a drs job. You have to assume a certain amount of responsibility when it comes to your health.

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Yes it is sad. I have degenerative disk disease and 5 spinal fusions on top of that then a spinal cord stimulator put in and it helps some a lot at 1st. But something else has to be done about pain control I agree I have fibromyalgia additions disease and now vein disease in my legs and it gets ridicjous..

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