Pharmacies That Carry Buprenorphine Made By Mylan Or Roxanne 54 411 (Top voted first)

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I've been taking Buprenorphine 8mg for 3 1/2 years now, all of a sudden every pharmacy in our area (that I know of) has switched the manufacturer they are order from, frustrating to me as I just seem to see a difference all though there shouldn't be. Does anyone know a pharmacy that still carries bup mg with the imprint 54 411?

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This may help you... I had called every pharm in a 50 mile radius from my home, family owned, warehouse, chain stores, ALL OF THEM!!! Every single one had either, the little white one with an arrow, or the even smaller football shaped one. I was totally panicking, and it got to the point where I actually considered giving up 8 years of sobriety. By some miracle, my neighbor mentioned something about picking up her son's meds from the HOSPITAL'S pharmacy... I never thought to check hospital pharmacies!!! They had a ton in stock AND the cost was almost HALF of what I normally pay out of pocket!!! The pharmacist treated me like a REAL person with a REAL problem, she listened why and how this was affecting me and others, and then actually took the time to figure what is happening and when it will end. All the other pharmacies treated me like a dirty junkie needing a fix, instead of understanding those pills keep me from being a junkie, and continue to save my life. Anyway, I hope that helped, and just do your best to hang on. Supposedly, everything SHOULD be back to normal BY the last week of July according to the pharmacist at the hospital. FINGERS CROSSED!!!

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Same here!!! I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah, and I've been on it for 8 years now. It started a month ago, when the pharmacies were on back order for 54 411, and now it's EVERY TYPE of generic Buprenorphine from every manufacturer. Last week, I went to fill my script, and people were fighting over ONE BROKEN TABLET!!! I wish pharmacies, manufacturers, and drug companies realized what a negative impact this has on a group of extremely fragile people who are fighting addiction everyday in order to, hopefully, have the life we all long for, and deserve. Thanks for letting me vent.... Meh.

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WOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN STARTING A PETITION TO PROVE THAT THESE BIG CHAIN PHARMACIES (CVS, WALMART, RITE AID, WALGREENS ETC) TREAT US UNFAIRLY BECAUSE OF THE PRESCRIPTION WE GET, REFUSE TO ORDER OUR PREFERRED MEDICATION WHEN THEY VERY WELL COULD EASILY DO SO, AND REFUSE TO FILL OUR PRESCRIPTIONS FOR REASONS LIKE THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING NEW PATIENTS (BUT ONLY FOR THAT MEDICATION), OR BECAUSE OF WHERE WE LIVE OR WHERE OUR DOCTOR'S OFFICE IS, OR ONLY IF WE PAY WITH CASH -- IT'S NOT RIGHT! IT'S DISCRIMINATION! AND ONLY OUR SPEAKING UP WILL CHANGE THAT BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THEY CARE ABOUT IS PROTECTING THEIR REPUTATION! REPLY WITH MY NAME IN THE COMMENT TO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK! THANKS!

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The Walgreens in Chicago no longer have Roxanne listed as an available manufacturer for them to order in the generic subutex (buprenorphine). Only Actavis.

I was looking forward to feeling like me again today after a very difficult month on the Actavis generic subutex. Unfortunately, that is not going to happen.

I had my script at Walgreens since Saturday since they were ordering in the usual Roxanne brand for me. It was supposed to be in on Monday, but I never got the call. I stopped in yesterday and they said they ordered it, but they were shipped two more Actavis bottles instead.

So they said we could try again for the next day (today). They have been really nice and helpful, but when I stopped in to check the status on my way home they said it had not come in.

They started to look into it further and discovered that Roxanne wasn't even listed as an available manufacturer anymore so they couldn't even order it in.

I again confirmed that I just could not, by any means, fill it with the Actavis brand and go another month feeling the way I have been. I just can't, and it's depressing to realize that it's not well understood just how drastic of a difference there truly is between two generics with the same active ingredient.

I just truly can not endure another 30 days of depression, ongoing headaches, irritability, complete lack of motivation and desire to do anything I've always loved, and also the difficulty with urination.

Even after 30 days it's still amazing to me how different I feel - and it's even more difficult to hear from loved ones and those around you saying: "what's wrong? Are you okay? You've seemed really down lately and just not yourself...".

I understand how different everyone is and how we all react differently to medications in some way. So I truly do hope and pray that others who are having to refill with the Actavis brand don't have the same devastating experience as I have had.

I've been on Roxanne for years and everything has been going so well for me. Never have had any issues with relapse, cravings, nor running out early. I actually felt "normal" with my dose of 1mg a day.

Maybe Actavis just does not work well at all at low doses. Or maybe they chose profits over quality and efficacy. I don't know. Either way, I am really hoping and praying that I do not have to do another month on Actavis. I just really can't feel like this anymore. I can't stand it and it's negatively impacted so much in my life this past month, as crazy as that might sound.

Please Actavis, please continue your research as the clinical studies I read in your published reports do not represent the full "market".

I have never been a complainer in life. This month changed that, likely because my whole "self" changed when switching to Actavis.

People will say it's the same medication, but after 30 days I've become a big believer in that generic's can significantly differ from one another in very severe, and unfortunate ways.

I will try the hospital pharmacy tomorrow. I've never done that before so I'm hoping I have success. Otherwise, CVS can order in the brand Mylan, which I've never had before.

As long as the Mylan is not anything like Actavis, I'll end up with that for a month. Just truly wish research had advanced further by now so that it would be well-known that saying one generic is "essentially the same thing" as the others is not accurate.

I also filed a complaint with Medwatch, which is also something I never, ever imagined ever doing for something. That is how significant of an impact this Actavis brand has had on me.

Finally we're entering a new era in medicine: Precision Medicine. Finally all medical professionals, pharmacy technicians, and patients themselves will become more aware of how different a medication can impact people --even though the "active ingredients" variation might be within the governments legal limits.

Truth is, we as a society still understand very little about this area of medication. Fortunately more research and more focus on genomics, exome sequencing, and other areas of genetics will soon help out people who end up suffering from the standard belief that "one medication is the same as another with the same active ingredients, so anything a patient might experience or say is most likely in their head."

Man I can't wait for further advancements in this area. So many people are going to be helped and saved from being trapped on medications that absolutely cause more harm than good even though they are "legally the same".

Sorry for the long ramble. Just very disappointed in having to think about the likelihood of feeling so depressed, fatigued, headache, no emotion, etc. for another month.

Hopefully Mylan is not a similar experience if I have to take that.

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I have never posted on one of these forums before but am honestly shocked here. I had the same problem with the Actavis pills...5 years on Roxanne's and have been doing amazing, went from being homeless with no one in my life to pulling in six figures with a beautiful family and house, it gave me the platform to change my life in every way imaginable!! I recently went on a trip to Maryland and had to get my script filled and lucked out because the CVS in Salisbury, MD had the Roxanne which is going to last me through the month and then I will try Mylans for the time being.

HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART GUYS!!!! My bottle says "MFG: ROXANNE/WEST-WAR" so if they got bought out, the CVS in Salisbury has received their new shipment as before it only listed "MFG: ROXANNE", I see this as a good sign for everyone. I spoke with a CVS pharmacist I am friends with and she stated that all the orders at their pharmacies come from corporate. If a chain pharmacy was having CONSISTENT back orders, they likely temporarily switched. Being in sales myself, they will likely get switched back once orders are ready to fill (which I read in a recent post above that they are filling orders again...) if a company gets bought out, often times the change of power can create panic in the workplace and production often goes down, there are layoffs, etc. it's not that the pharmacies or distributors or even manufacturers are trying to screw us over, they are trying to make a quick buck, but why would you put out a subpar product when there is a clear favorite on the market? We are addicts, we will go to whatever is best and strongest (Roxanne) - it won't be going anywhere anytime soon unless they come under suspicion for other reasons.

Please try not to panic and please don't replace, you can get through it! Talk to your doctor too!! My doctor totally understood and said he would call me in extra if I needed them during the transition (never had to but the actavis was so depressing I did take extra about every 3rd or 4th day). You and I are people too, just be reasonable and rational and we will all get through this together!!

By the way, f*** yes to a petition against actavis!

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Just posted here, but just discovered something that might help others -- including the Walgreens technicians.

I called Walmart, which is where I used to get my prescription filled until the one near me closed. I asked about the manufacturer's and they said they only had the generic subutex by "Westward".

I thought that was odd cause I never came across that brand while looking on the internet this month.

Walgreens technician thought it was odd that Roxanne was no longer even an option to me anymore from any Walgreens. It is a change that happened within the last 2 days.

So I just discovered that Westward owns Roxanne - and even the picture of their generic buprenorphine on the Westward website is the same as the Roxanne one.

So it could be that announcements to pharmacies about the name change just haven't happened?

I don't know. Either way I'm going to Walmart to fill my script for the Westward brand and am praying that it is the same thing as Roxanne.

Really praying....

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I usually go to Walmart pharmacy (I live in South central PA) and they all say they are out of them, that they are on back order. My friend went to MD to fill her script, and she got these tiny 8mg subs, with an 8 and an arrow on them. I don't want to take different ones, usually I get the 54 411... I was told all Walmart's are out here in PA. I'd go to another pharmacy if I could get the ones I'm used to, even if they do cost a little more. Reply please, if you find out any info, since we seem to be close...

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Same here. Every store is on backorder for the past 7 days. I'm from mid south Pa.

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Wow, that is crazy... For the past two months, I've gotten the actual bottle from the pharmacy, the one the subutex come to the pharmacy in, I guess cause I get 30, and there's 30 in each bottle. My friend got her script and got tiny ones, and now I'm terrified of getting something different. She says they made her feel "f****d up" (the little ones with an arrow and an 8). The pharmacy treats me the same way, like I'm some drug addict and it pisses me off because they aren't my Dr they don't know what's best for me... But anyway, where did you hear it would be back to normal? I'm considering taking my bottle with me to fill my script on the 11th, and asking the pharmacy for those exact kind, but I don't know how that'll go over. I'll definitely try the hospital or the pharmacy connected to my kid's Dr office, they are different than regular pharmacies. I was told by one Walmart that I could bring my script in a few days early and they'd order it, but they told my friend they had no idea when they were getting more...

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Yes the Mylan brand is just as effective as Roxanne. They even look alike. They don't wear off like others either. Now I tried Mylan once. Hated it. They did something different cause they work. Also get an Rx coupon. It will save you half the price. I still encourage everyone to file a complaint with the FDA for that garbage Westward. I'd like to sue.

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Roxanne56, it seems you are confused. I don't want anyone else to be confused, or to be reporting WestWard to FDA for that matter because none of us want that!! Let me clear this up:

The new tablets that you don't like, have NOTHING to do with Roxane. If you are referring to the "460" imprinted tablets that is, which I believe you are. Those are manufactured by Sun Pharma. NOTHING TO DO WITH ROXANE. Pharmacies got those in when they couldn't obtain the Roxane tablets. Roxane was bought out by Hikma. Hikma is the parent company of West-Ward. West-Ward & Roxane were merged as one. They STILL manufacture the exact same white, round "54 511" imprinted 8mg tablets as before, and the tablets STILL produce the same efficacy as before. The ONLY difference in the 54 411 tablets is the manufacturer on the bottle should now be listed as "West-Ward" or "Roxane/West-Ward".

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"Please no more Actavis" - I wish I could have read your comment and replied sooner. But by now I'm guessing you've gotten the new ones. :( I would have told you to definitely take the Mylan, as they are the next best thing to Roxanne and the most similar in effectiveness compared to all the other brands I've tried, in my opinion. Roxanne has been discontinued due to being bought out for 2.1 billion dollars, by another pharmaceutical company. They will no longer be available. I too, have the new ones that the Roxannes have been replaced with, and they are awful. They burn while dissolving, I've read comments in other threads from people who've gotten ulcers in their mouths from this, as well upset stomach, headaches, loss of appetite, lack of energy, and cravings. I've had muscle cramps in my legs the last few days. I hope your experience was different and maybe you didn't have these issues. But if you did, try and get the Mylan next time. I hope this helps.

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I don’t know where you live, but the Walgreens in my city where I live still carries that manufacturer. It’s called Westward. Maybe you called Roxanne. The pill itself has that same # printed on mine. 54111. Now, for me the Mylan brand works better for me. Mylan called me personally and they said, their new release date is 5-31-2018. That’s the date it’s supposed to be available to all pharmacies in the US. My pharmacy ordered me the Akorn brand for me this month because, Mylan won’t have theirs in-in time for me when I renew my script. I hope they will continue to have it in stock after that date. I was put on the Mylan brand in California when I went to see a specialist for my Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and pain control. I didn’t want to be the opiates, I was on anymore. Too many side effects from them. This Mylan brand of Subutex has a lot less side effects than any of the opiate ever did. I’m very happy with this new medication. I’m getting better every day. Before I flew out to California I was basically bedridden. Now I’m up and driving again and doing things for myself. I hope you have good results from this message.

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Re: KJ (# 412) Expand Referenced Message

I know this post is a few months old but this also may help others that live in Wilmington, NC. Hickma brand 54 411 are starting to make a comeback in the area, the last 3 fills at my pharmacy have been Hickma and the price has come down to $180 for 60 instead of $240.

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I also am experiencing the same issue. I have had extreme migraines and vomiting since starting these hi tech brand buprenorphine this month. Mylan Pharmaceuticals web site states the date of availability will be July 24th! Come the 24th I'm going to my pharmacy and begging them to order my regular medication. I've spent the last 8 days in bed in the dark because of these migraines. The depression I'm experiencing right now is beyond belief. I was placed on buprenorphine for chronic pain due to my back and I'm in a hell of a spot right now because of this back order! If I don't take it I'm in so much pain I can't move, and if I do take it I'm stuck in bed all day with curtains drawn and lights off because my heads pounding. It's absolutely a lose/lose situation. Praying the 24th they can order my medication, because at the rate this depression's going...well let's just say..I can't live like this.. good luck guys!

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Re: HB (# 28) Expand Referenced Message

Hi HB, I'm sorry to hear you're having a hard time. In regards to the Mylan generic, I do have experience with those. They aren't bad, I would choose them over every other generic aside from RoxaneWestward. They are the next best one. Not quite as good, but they do just fine. No side effects for me as has occurred with the other generics. If for some reason I was unable to access the Roxane-Westward brand tablets, Mylan are the only other one I would take. Hope that helps.

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Re: Wayne (# 54) Expand Referenced Message

Download single care on ur iPhone ( if u have an iPhone ) and that discount card makes it where my 54 111 subs are $105 for 60 of them

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Jane (# 108) --

There should not be a difference that is noticeable. Generics should be very close to the name brand and meet very high standards. Instead they just make them as cheaply as possible. It's ridiculous that we should have to play games and beware of certain brands

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Re: Bobby C (# 305) Expand Referenced Message

I dont take my buprenorphine for pain, mines from addiction, but still people do take it for pain so it must work. I'd ask the doctor how many a day he plans on giving you. Like I take 8mg 3x aday..sometimes 4.dont accept anything under 3 aday for pain...it will definitely work for w/d and if you do I'm sure most in these groups will tell you either ask for hikma or Rhodes brand, anything else in somewhat junky..good luck.

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It is the same. I filled with westward and it's exactly like Roxanne. It is the same exact pill with the same exact numbers. I been on it for 6 years and I couldn't feel a difference

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