Percocet And Generic Apap / Oxycodone Ingredient Changes
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Have noticed an extreme difference in the effectiveness along with suddenly, after as a legitimate chronic pain patient for 15 years with no problems, horrible side effects, no pain relief as if I’m taking a sugar pill. This has seemingly been done behind our backs. We have a right to know what we are dealing with here.

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BIGY pharmacy has been giving me (2) different containers, claiming that some are from one manufacturer and the others are from another.
They look exactly the same but one of the containers is a weak-version.
I think they are trying to trick me to believe I am getting the same med.
I can barely move when I took the ones in the container with less pills.
Obviously, not as effective but who would test them to be sure?
I have 9 levels TOTAL fused between my lumbar spine and cervical spine.
Arachnoditis from a cerebrospinal dura tear during 1 of 3 fusions.

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Re: rammsteinfan (# 7)

Absolutely 100% agree! I’m also on Norco and Oxycodone and when the “Opioid crisis” began my meds no longer worked. I’ve said it for years I think their messing with the meds. I’ve been a chronic pain patient going on 18 years and my meds always worked, then one month it stopped and I know damn well it’s not tolerance. I work in a pharmacy and always hope to hear something about it but no of course not!

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Re: Jazlyn (# 1)

Hi! Just following up to see how your friend made out with her case/lawsuit. These pills have been definately altered!

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Re: Wendy (# 15)

Sounds like you got Rhodes Pharma ? Does it go away when you take another and another . So messed up cvs pushing that poison ! Especially on managed Medicaid and medicAre folks !!! Ask the manufacture of your medicine don’t let them scare you go to another pharmacy like a grocery store one they seem to be better cvs is the worse the. I hear Walgreens ain’t much better or rite aid ! Grocery store pharmacies seem to be better .

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A bit off topic but still informational.

Sacramento, CA – A new bill calls for the end of pharmaceutical companies ‘pay-for-delay’ tactics regarding patents.

California’s Attorney General Xavier Becerra partnered with Assembly member Jim Wood (D-Santa Rosa) to introduce AB 824. The bill would stop pharmaceutical companies from pocketing billions in profits by using a “pay-for-delay” practice that results in an extension of their patents on brand name drugs beyond what Congress intended in the Hatch-Waxman Act of 1984. That practice typically allows brand name drug manufacturers to pay competing generic drug manufacturers to delay bringing a cheaper version of the drug to market.

For example, Becerra shares, “Take the case of the drug Cipro. It’s a common place antibiotic manufactured by Bayer. The pharmaceutical company held a patent on the drug that was set to expire in 2003. So, what Bayer did was it reached a deal with many of its rivals, paying them $400 million dollars to keep their drugs off of the market for six years.” He added that during those years, Bayer raised the price of a single pill to $5.30. Once those agreements ended the pill’s price dropped to 17 cents.”

via California Bill To Combat Skyrocketing Drug Prices - MyMotherLode.com

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https:/­/­www.empr.com/­browseby/­manufacturers/­

a list of manufacturers of meds of all kinds.

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I no longer take Percocet. I do take 10 mg Norco made by Mallinkrod. I know many don't like them, but I haven't noticed any difference between it and other brands. I hope those of you with Percocet issues get it straightened out. Some seem to have issues with CVS. Why not check out other pharmacies?

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Re: Diane (# 24)

Please you need to actually give kratom a shot order it and capsule it and take 1-3 tablespoons

It works plus there are other things just until you can get what you need but trust me it’s strong for natural and detoxes you from chemicals that make the pain worse.,

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Re: Mejane (# 11)

I'm sure physical pain is challenging, but at least there are meds to make it go away. Listen when I say that there is nothing worse than treatment resistant depression. I was 38 when it started and at age 60 my doctor found an off label med that worked. For 2 years I had my life back. But no one will help me now that I need more than the recommended dose - which is for narcolepsy. So I'm 62 and back in the black hole. As bad as physical pain is, depression is so much worse. Especially when there's no treatment, or someone decides how much you can take. It is cruel and inhumane to do this when someone is suffering.

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Re: Aguywhocaresaboutothers38 (# 20)

Thank you ! You know so much! With my brain injury, I feel like they could pull anything on me and I wouldn’t know what to do because my processing is a bit slow. So, what should I do? I was already messed up with The use of Reglan for my Gastroparesis. This has been only a 6 year process for me, and I don’t know how you guys can take all the issues with meds. It started with what they said was reflux in 10/2012. Then they said it was my gallbladder, took it out and I woke up with the worst gi symptoms I ever had. Then I was just so gi sick that I was totally dehydrated, passed out in the shower and landed on my head and when I woke up I still had the gi issues, and now had the worst headaches I ever had which gave me the dx of migraines. My brain injury symptoms got worse and worse so they said I had a diffuse atonal injury. Then my gi issues turned them to a specialist who diagnosed me with Gastroparesis. I took the Reglan while in the physical rehab hospital and I was just barfing all the time, every meal. So then I had lost so much weight, I had to get a feeding tube, then a port, now a picc line. Then suddenly I got lock jaw and then crazy muscle movements so they said no more Reglan. But then the symptoms laid somewhat dormant for a while. They came on full force last spring and I was put on IV Cogentin which with the Xanax ER, was trying to erase my memory. Now I take the Baclofen, and it helps a lot but I get breakthroughs of the bad dramatic body twisting dystonia and they seem to come between the doses of Baclofen...I take 10mg in the am, 5 mg in the afternoon and 10 mg at night. Is that a really low dose? I also take ropinorole for restless legs. I just need help. I’m so afraid of all these meds, but have also experienced relief from many of them. We are pretty sure when they removed my gallbladder, they injured my vagus nerve which can reek havoc in a body as it travels all around in your torso. So lots of abdominal pain, lots of muscle and joint pain, migraine pain.......help?

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Re: Briards (# 12)

Mallinckrodt is the maker.

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Re: Wendy (# 19)

You need to find out the manufactures of the kinds of generics you’re getting look at the bottle or call the pharmacy and ask. And I’ll try to help. I know this all is a hot mess. Trust me it’s done one hell of a number on me as well. I literally tried out the Rhodes/Perdue generic again from saved and that has been the biggest part of my crazy tremors that is not normal I’m not one who gets any of the rare side affects at all I’m not delicate at all I’ll get the most common maybe but a lot of times I won’t even get that so it’s the drug . I said crazy sciatic nerve pain as a way to describe it but it’s tremors . Save all of your bottles. Honestly don’t go down the opiate path if you are not well off money wise and can stick with only brand and even then I feel there’s definitely an opiate agenda going down. Or kratom powder it’s natural and in the coffee like family but most strains don’t even give you jitters . Then I capsule it myself. They are trying to scare people but at the worse case you get a slight headache no bad side affects at. Usually I’d say take controlled as least as possible but the more of a drug list you have being filled the more likely they are also to give you a bad generic because if you are taking several drugs who’s to say which is doing which. And thats awful I know but the first thing they are gonna ask when you report a crappy generic what else are you on what symptoms or health issues do you have. Say with everything going on with the endless amount of third world less monitored poor quality controlled generics being poured through you only feel comfortable taking one drug at a time period. Unless you know meds very well and manufactures this is the wrong time to be new to pharma cause even us ones in the Game a long time and no a lot they keep throwing us curveballs. And doing endless amounts of changes both to the insurances and the medications Serious changes. I literally would give you my number I need to catch up on somethings but I don’t want anyone in this world to go through what I’ve beeb through several endless cycles and single with no kids and I really know the medical system but managed Medicaid and the changes got us all even the drs . I had to spend 24/7 reading and researching everything from diet to tolietries to water air etc and those are very big factors no one is really looking out for us ! Like they should we have chemicals in our food and tolietries that can cause our pain and mental health to be thrown even cooking with foil yet we put it in our arm pits! Had you told me this years and years ago I’d be like okay get out of here with that 60s hippies love guru hug a tree go green vegan mess lol but it’s facts! Nuero toxins mess up make us have pain and dementia. And the more of it we take in the worse off we are . Now on to the Xanax most drs are not gonna let you have an opiate and benzo together but for me I said benzo alone before an opiate alone cause opiates alone can make you on edge . Bacoflen was decent bsck in the day same with skelaxin and yes eventually muscle relaxers stop working but for me personally so many things that used to have a mild groggy or slight tired affect now have a huge groggy affect . If you got crazy chronic pain it ain’t gonna do much Try and reserve it for when your pain is so so and see if it does much for you taking it alone . Best of luck . Take me serious on going through your diet and tolietries and good drinking water and no Flouride or aluminum no nuero toxins for pain people period !!!

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Re: Aguywhocaresaboutothers38 (# 17)

Are you serious! What I don’t need is thinking I have sciatic nerve problems! My dr has written name brand on my script, but I have never gotten it. Any other drugstores have a better brand? My husband doesn’t think we have time in our schedule to go into the city once a month! Can you believe that? I’m also waking up feeling anxious every morning. Do you think it’s oxy liquid that I take before bed, or do I need a Xanax? I’m so confused! Also I still have breakthroughs with my Baclofin for my dystonia. I’m afraid it’s going to ruin my joints as I age. More advice please!

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It's the same way with all generics.

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Re: Mejane (# 11)

I am a chronic pain patient; what does that have to do with anything? Facts are facts

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Re: Wendy (# 15)

Sounds like you got Rhodes/Perdue in liquid format ! On the label you should see it ! Cvs is the worst ! Dammit they got you too ! It is always when the second dose happens you get the crazy sciatic nerve pain and so far that’s been the Rhodes/Perdue company being sued yet that’s all cvs offers now in liquid that’s different so it must be one using that same formula see and then you get the nerve pain thinking you need more and some take more . And guess who created The suboxone get off opiate drug. The same people who created the generic Percocet that causes the crazy sciatic nerve pain thank God I got Xanax from my dr and used it to get off them that and kratom then my Xanax got hit by Aurobindo! The two most evil companies they not only are crappy they make you physically sick. I’m on Disabilty but I was supposed to climb up the ladder not fall off it. Complete bs. None of my issues new Are related to my health ! They were purely bad meds eggs ibrophen800 has been hit , gabapetin which notice went right to written script, trazadone lingered which it never did , Adderall causung fatigue , and the one drug that hasn’t been touched till 3-4 months ago my Xanax ! All of these are survival for pain and focus but I had to take myself of every single one I use kratom get the meds filled test them out individually and I plan on suing this is evil !

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Re: Rosr (# 14)

I too & many have had same problem w/Camber. I felt I was being poisoned & still do now that I’ve been on Alvogen generic percocet 10/325. Alvogen is horrible but I have no choice as even though my Dr wrote “medically necessary Endocet or Percocet BRAND ONLY!” Publix has tried to order either of these brands for me but told me they are not available & all they carry is Alvogen. I was told to try other pharmacies for either these brands or another generic ie; Mallinkrodt...the tesponses being “we r not taking on any new CP PATIENT’s” or “our quantities r limited” etc, etc! So I’m forced to stick with Publix, take the Alvogen that makes me sick bcuz withdrawels & living in agony r worse!

Years ago I was a near fatality in a car accident which resulted in severe lumbar & cervical spinal stenosis, degenerative disc disease, lotsa broken bones & more. I’ve been in SUPERVISED Pain Mgmt for 18yrs after exausting 6 major surgeries & endless yrs of procedures that failed AMEN to the day I was chosen as a study “guinea pig” with the top Doctor’s & hospital’s in their discovery & developement of “Opiate Pain Management”; To name a few Yale, Cornell, MAYO CLINIC, Montefiore Hosp NYC, Boston Hosp; With that, PERCOCET became my lifeline as the only med that agreed with me to lead a semi-productive “walking” life. So sad too; OMG if Cancer & all terminally ill patient’s aren’t suffering enough... now they, too have to add to that suffering horrible side effect’s from tainted, poisonous, re-formulated generic pain meds?!?!

Praying for us all as LEGITIMATE CHRONIC PAIN PATIENT’s that we be recognized instead of being victimized & lumped into the demoralizing category as “drug addicts!”

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Hi,
How do I find out information about the generic meds and if my CVS has changed from one generic to the next. The first time I was prescribed liquid Oxycodone, I got it filled at the hospital in Center City Philadelphia. The medicine was very thick in consistency and extremely effective. When I got it filled next time at CVS, I noticed right away it was the consistency of water, tasted much differently and did not seem to provide the same effectiveness as the bottle I got from the hospital pharmacy. This week I got a new bottle from cvs, and the taste is different again, and it seems to be even less effective and I started having sciatic nerve issues with the second dose. What do you guys think? What can I do?

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Re: Aguywhocaresaboutothers38 (# 9)

I'm only on Oxy/10/325- same dose for 10 years post botched spine surgery. I've been a health nut all my life & was forced into a rigged health system post disability. I too have done a ton of research after my 1st Rx from Camber Mfg. Jan 18. I got deathly sick...finally got tested.for Toxic levels & findings were arsenic, lead, aluminum among others!. Finally found a generic that was ok but this year everyone dripped due to price hike. Big problem is Big Pharma greed! The generic Mfg are now overseas in unsupervised facilities. I can't even get location addresses. Many in India/Pakistan Mfg. in industrial areas, using the same water sources polluted from industrial Mfg..They can also source inert ingredients from China & not list...these too, in industrial run off areas. The Camber with arsenic became more smelly, by week 2 ,I opened the bottle it literally popped & a smell like paint thinner & rot came out! My toxic report is consistent with paint manufacturing chemicals! I researched & found Mallenckopt was ok...it was. Now this year due to huge price hikes...all pharmacies in my area refuse to order...they lose too much$.All by design...the cheap,useless generics are all the pharmacies will carry. Smaller pharmacies are compensated based on the cheapest brands! Check out the Financial sections to see the 'plan'...

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Re: DRSIMMSMD (# 8)

Yes I’m very aware addiction exists and have seen it and been around plenty. But if you’ve been on a drug over 20 years with no issues chances are you’re not all of a sudden gonna become an addict . I’m very aware of every possible case. Scenario. But pills designed a certain way could literally create an addiction appearance, especially if they have no idea how the pills normally are. I would’ve laughed if you would tell me a pharma company is to blame for addiction. But after seeing how those Rhodes Percocets pills worked insane - and I literally tested it out 4-5 times individually, taking no other med, and every time it brought on a crazy sciatic nerve like pain that lasted for like several hours in the morning.

I was prescribed only 2 x 10mg of Percocet a day. You’re talking to someone who took themselves off a 50mgs fentanyl patch in 3 weeks. Because when my Disabilty paperwork was filled, my Medicaid state shrink ripped me off it. Wrecklessly. Well I told my primary dr I’d give up opiates fentanyl and Percocet to keep my Xanax because I can’t take an opiate or add meds without a benzodiazepines. I don’t like feeling on edge. I don’t like meds at all - I take them to get the basics in life knocked out while I continue to seek out a better and natural long term solution living off 771 a month and and Medicaid. Makes it real limited. I got rental assistance, so after bills, everything goes towards organic foods and vitamins, and finding the latest all natural cures or detoxes etc .. nature truly does hold all the cures. It’s nature and foods being messed with by evil people that caused all these illnesses for the most part, but we won’t get into that.

Traditional medicine should be used as last resort. I am not against traditional medicine at all. In fact, I used to advocate that if the pros out weigh the cons of a medicine then it’s justified to take it, but the game is changing. Big time. So people who have never had issues are having issues, and people who don’t know the meds don’t know any better. Drs who have been around awhile don’t have a clue as to what’s going on and they don’t like to admit not knowing. Slowly they’ll catch on. Lawrd knows. I’ve been vocal and not gonna stop. They also give out non controlled drugs over prescribed. I see these kids instantly gaining 50-80 lbs on heavy psych meds, and other people like at the VA or VA Drs, and you give a person a heavy psych med that works one month, and the next month it doesn’t, or varies in strength too much - you’re gonna get one heck of a spiral.

This is why I can’t sit back with all I know and just keep quiet. You got people committing suicide and doing crazier-than-ever things. Have you not seen the insane news articles? This country is very medicated. One way to mess with us would be to mess with the meds. One section of people at a time. Right now anything in the pain or mental health category is targeted. They’re already barely taken serious . It’s evil to Target our most vulnerable.

And I just lost a friend over the summer July 4th, I saw it coming and I had to cut it off, cause I’m not gonna be around a liability. He was young and opiates were his thing. He turned to the street Hagerstown MD and died ... still haven’t gotten the results of his autopsy from his mom. I asked 3 weeks after it happened cause there’s no way he’d leave or OD on purpose with his dad having cancer. He self medicated because he couldn’t tell his family he was gay and he was emotional. It’s extremely sad. 27 years old and goes out. My guess is cocaine and it was the lethal fentanyl, could’ve been heroin.

I’m friends and very close with my legal aid. She works for 5 counties and I live in an area that has a lot of military and people who suffer from PTSD. While being bed bound and fatigue coming through everything and taking myself off every medication one by one yet filling everything each month at good old CVS, I busted the cause of each drug ! This is definitely not a time in history to have a wild partying drug stage, or you're dead. And let me make clear I’m against all street drugs period. I’m just saying it’s sad that one wild night now can cost someone their life, as well as someone in so much pain that can no longer can get anything from their Dr... They turn to the street, and boom it costed them their life. I hope things get better for everyone’s sake.

There’s no new opiate crisis. It’s not new at all. Addiction exists, but you can’t punish those truly in pain for those who are junkies, cause junkies will find a way no matter what. I had one Dr that said "unless you're 6 months dying from cancer forget it". Maybe someone or these Drs do know about these generics and the agenda. I’m a no risk patient. I have history showing no problems medically or addiction wise going back all the way to 1991. It simply was the fact the Dr was dropped from my coverage. Gmo weed, cigs, and it booze to self medicate can be worse in my opinion.. Medically, the cycles and things I’ve been through by having medicaid, has given me PTSD. Like bad generics causing adverse side affects after I finally got Disabilty and my own apt. And finally thought I had peace to be bed bound in a place, btw, that does apt inspections. I got a beautiful french bulldog and my mom lives a mile from me thank God for her. And thank god I got this dog right before it got worse. It forced me to keep fighting and fighting and looking for answers. I made it my only focus. I would go food shopping once month load up, killing my back. Seeing my primary once every 2 months, and my mom came over to clean every so often and hang out. And I’d walk my dog 5-6 times a day and thank god I didn’t do the puppy thing. And she’s a good girl. These dogs are perfect companions and in size and don’t need to much exercise. Anyone with PTSD should have one.

Trust me, I don’t need to spend all this energy trying to warn and save the world but I know and have seen too much to just look the other way. I wouldn’t want anyone I can prevent from going through what I have several times and awareness needs to be brought to this issue. But instead, everyone’s too busy arguing Republicans vs Democrats and trying to make ends meet.

Best wishes

Good eventually conquers and over throws all forms of evil .. I’ve been told that opiates and pharma are part of agenda 21. I haven’t read it yet, but from what I’ve seen and everything going on, how can I say it’s not population control of some form? Target the mental health and elderly and those in pain first, and those on the system. I’ve had the best of the best of Drs and insurance. I know better. And I feel awful for those who solely have to trust the Dr and state and medicate their kid or parent after 15-30 minute chat. You can’t make a full evaluation on a kids mental health in 15-30 mins . And why is there no liability for meds that aren’t controlled that can be worse?! Way worse .. time to be united not divided.

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