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Has anyone else known oxycontin to rot the teeth? I used to be on vicodin until my doctor told me I needed to switch to a morphine based meds. She put me on ms contin but I had problems with it so she put me on 80mg oxycontin. Eventually my body built up a tolerance so she kept raising it, i have am now on from 4-6 per day of the 80mg tabs. It scares me that this is what rotted my teeth because only 5 yrs ago i had only 2 cavities that needed filling and then only 1 yr after going on the oxycontin i had to have all my top front teeth pulled as they where rotting from the inside out the dentist said my mouth looked like a heroin addict's mouth looks. He said it was shocking to him that normally he only saw such damage from someone who abused drugs with so much dental damage, but i have never done any street drugs and have only take my meds as prescribed to me. Now i have lost 80% of my teeth and as a beautiful 41 yr old mother its devastating. I cant afford dentures and sure cant afford implants like i would like to have. I am a single mother and refuse to date because i have lost my teeth now, i had beautiful teeth before i started on the oxycontin and only 2 small cavities that needed filling. Does anyone else have this same problem and if so why hasn't the company making oxycontin warn patients of this possible problem?

If i had known this would cause me to lose most of my teeth i would have never agreed to go on it. Of course my family doctor who has been prescribing them tells me she hasn't heard of any other cases, yet when i researched the med online there where others like this why hasn't something been put in the warnings about this med, i sure would have preferred to have lived in pain the rest of my life rather than lose my teeth and be unable to even eat now. My health has gone downhill fast as i cant even chew foods necessary for good health. All I can eat now are yogurts, and liquid type of foods which isn't much. My kids are 7 and 9 yrs old and they watch me cry when we go out to eat and they order steak, and i can smell it but can't order one as i know i wont be able to chew it. This is so devastating for me. I want teeth so badly if i could wish for anything in life besides not to be poor anymore it would be to have a full set of real teeth or implants but i could never dream of having them, and i don't know anyone out there willing to just help me get any either. I have always helped others all my life, but cant even help myself, i have had to have 29 surgeries now since 1991 when a drunk driver hit my car and caused me major injuries with my lower back and knees, i have had a full lower back fusion and 8 arthroscopic knee surgeries until a year ago they finally had to do a full right knee replacement and now they are talking about doing my left knee soon.

So my life has been up and down with surgeries and i would go thru one more surgery just to have teeth implanted if i could. but i could never afford it, but i would like to know why these drug manufacturers are making a medication that could cause teeth to rot like this without warning us patients or even warning the doctors about it. This is just terrible of them i think, as now i am the one paying for this by having no teeth to eat with at such a young age now. I am a vibrant young 41 yr old at 5'3, 120lbs, slim woman, nice looking too as i was a model in my younger days, so i keep my looks up. But to have no teeth now... I never smile anymore, I am to ashamed to smile even though it wasn't my fault i lost my teeth. I think they should pay for me to have new teeth but no one wants to admit that the med causes it, but my diet wasn't the problem back when i started the medication and i wasn't drinking coca-cola either or doing street drugs so i know that wasn't the cause either. The only thing that changed within one year to cause this was starting the oxycontin medication. Well, if anyone out there can help me let me know thanks.

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Pedro the dental erosion will occur according to my top specialists and I am a professional nurse and published researcher regardless of the fluid intake or good dental hygiene.

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P450 I so agree and it's so heartbreaking for those in life threatening pain and illness. Its real and it's so amazing that anyone could think someone would be faking or exaggerating such illness and pain. Like you, I had an horrific injury and then I got I'll with a life threatening illness that by the time I was diagnosed I was lucky to have made it 18 years undiagnosed. I could barely walk.
I feel like there's an attack on people who suffer everyday, then to have someone attack so heartless is so sad. I think you know what it's like when no one believes you as I do. I just had neck surgery and I just got told that I picked up my prescription of butalbital over a year early. Its not even a scheduled narcotics. so I have to wait a month? (which I didnt) I need this for my neck pain. I hope they don't try this on all my scripts. I'm allowed 1 day like everyone else??? I've never heard of such thing. I'm so upset.
Bless you for your support.

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Mailman:

Bravo excellent post, look forward to knowing you better.

Peace out.

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Hey Hiflyer love your message look forward to getting to know you. We all do need to stick together. Perhaps the dental topic is the place to go. Gotta get Chris over here again.

Peace out.

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P450. I am also on workers comp federal but in Pa. I have been on from 1997. If I can help in any way I will ! God Bless u

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Mailman awesome just having yet another new and wonderful friend is great. I just took a break and realized today that they now (local SSA) made a very major error forcing me to fill out an ALJ denial sheet (hearing) this was on 9/4/2015 I was in immediately on 9/3/2015 for my check did not deposit. Yes since I am the old SSDI mine goes in on the third of the month. Further I told the twit (this local office is dangerous truly) I was speaking to two attorney's one actually I adored in Louisiana, one in Tennessee and had spoken to one in Houston earlier. To think of anyone going before an ALJ without documentation is bizarre.

I've already won against Attorney General without a lawyer over four times on my compensation pro se. I am being held up now for they are appealing (won again on August 19, 2015) and we are talking 20 years mileage 5 years to California.

But I need a physician immediately I have another one lined up who sounds good in Louisiana but I keep waiting to call (first faxing over an introduction letter letting them know I'm a nurse and understand FDA concept for I normally was on extremely high medication since I'm a rare ultra rapid opioid metabolizer) a few records, a brief medical history and a few tests. Too much makes them crazy and actually once in they will want to officially request your records.

I finished my Position Statement for the comp yesterday and am deciding if I must submit all the proof files again since the full Commission will review and has access since I just won in August and if you submit too much it's forbidden the statement can only be 10 pages double spaced and as it stands years ago I had the best attorney on East Coast for comp (we won against this new AG who despises me now for winning pro se) and trying all the gimmicks with my health now so very fragile and death imminent will be the next go round. I am going to submit damage from SSA as payable to the employer if they had paid mileage for my treating physician then I would not be facing the SSA denial after so many years disabled. The lower level ranks of SSA do not realize what CMS (formerly HCFA) demands.

The employer started settlement attempts with me almost 10 years ago. My medical award due to medications and the extent of the injury is definitely very high. My last round of monthly medications was anywhere between $25,000 to $30,000 a MONTH. I warned people who voted Odumma that opioids would be held up (shortages) to increase prices
which was done.

I'd say my MSA approved by CMS for medication annuity was $1.85 million five years ago and would be higher now due to the increases. That is for a life span average of 20 years. Also I must due to allergies and specific DNA have brand on LA and one specific generic works for BT. If that company stops making it I'm in trouble for many of my allergies my now deceased (and missed PM of 10 years) physician figured this out---are dyes, flavorings, glue, adhesives so as you see the generics kill me. Plus FDA allows up to 42 to 47% LESS or MORE opioid inclusion compared to brand. It is cheaper to use less for generic companies so if you check your medications you will understand why brand costs more and works better.

Well time to consider next steps. Mailman do you do the chat on Wednesday night? I did it last week but they had to turn my microphone off since there was noise and I had no noise on my end and a new laptop so something was off but I think I'll try again.

Oh yeh forgot to say I did read on regulations when SSA makes an error they can just rectify in my case it would kill a lot of birds with one stone. However I am thinking of turning this local office into OIG for fraud it works both ways!

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Hi, Mailman! Just wanted to let you know that I'm still alive and kicking but just haven't felt well enough to post much lately. It was good to see YOUR post and I was especially pleased and thank you for your kind words. Boy, there sure is quite a lot of people sharing on the forum lately and that's a good thing I suppose but it also causes me to wonder, aside from sharing each other's pain, both physical and psychological, what, if anything, can or will ever come of our dental dilemma. It's very disheartening to know, even though there are many of us on this forum as well as countless others who aren't but who also share the same devastation from the side effects of the opiode therapy, nothing will ever be done about it. I get terrified when I think that I could fall victim to an MI or a stroke at any moment just because the pills that I absolutely count on just to get through the day are causing it and there's nothing I can do about it. Oh, sure I could if I have several tens of thousands of dollars to get implants but I can't even afford to pay to have the ones I have left removed so I can get dentures. Besides, and like P450 has indicated in her posts, I'm fairly sure that I wouldn't have enough bone left in my lower jaw to even attempt implants (again, if I could afford them). I know this because I was able to go to a dental school for awhile and they had to remove all but the very front lower teeth and the partial denture they gave me sits quite a bit lower in my mouth than it did when I first got them. Without it, I wouldn't be able to eat anything solid so I depend on it no matter where it sits. Well, enough of my BMC session for the day but I did want to acknowledge your post, let you know that I was still around, and thank you for your kind words. They meant the world to me when I read them. Hang in there till the next time and my thoughts and prayers are with you as they are for everyone on this forum (but especially for YOU!). Be well and try to have as pain free a day as you possibly can. Love and compassion to you all..... Christine

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WHAT WEDNESDAY NIGHT CHAT? MAILMAN, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS?

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Here you go Christine! I have attended several times. It is interesting! Give it a shot!

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Thanks, Hiflyer, for the quick reply! When did this chat group start and do you know who started it? This is exactly the kind of thing that I was teething to put together but couldn't get more than a small group together and eventually even those seemed to have lost interest. I'm really at a loss tho figure this revelation out right now. Thanks again, Hiflyer!!!!

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Dear Christine If I knew anything about it you would have known within minutes of me finding out about Wednesday Chats ! News to me ! Thank you for your kind words because it means a lot to me coming from you! We have been threw a lot and I am happy that we look out for each other and I always will ! Stay safe and healthy ! You always write with your heart and that is part of why you are so special especially to me! Mail delivered !

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Your welcome!! It started sometime this year Robin is very nice and
controls the group but as it got bigger it got a little difficult to follow
along but still a great way to know we are not alone. And we do
pass info along such as not many people knew that here in FLA
to get your script filled I had to visit sometimes 5 different drug stores
do to gov. control of amounts that drug stores can get per month!
Stay as well as you can! Regards, Norman

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Mailman you are an awesome man.

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I feel your pain as I woke up this morning feeling something wasn't right in my mouth (well, more so than usual, that is). I brushed my tongue around the top of my mouth (I don't have any molars left on the bottoms) and found that one of my upper left molars had broken by three quarters all the way almost to the gum line!
Insofar as a class action suit is concerned, the subject has been brought up more than a few times since I joined this forum and although most everyone agrees that it would be the course of action they'd like to see happen, we also agree that it would be virtually impossible to fight against big pharmas with their armies of high priced attorneys, it will be just as difficult to find an attorney, much less a firm, to take a case like this pro bono and/or even on contingency. I'm pretty sure that most everyone here would get on board if someone were to find one but, so far, no one has been able to. Good luck to you and welcome to our "family"!

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P450 you have so much information and insight as to what a person with these bone and dental issues. It's so valuable to this blog. I myself have battled a rare infection from sitting next to a very sick person on a 3 hour flight besides major auto accidents, then my daughter when she was 12 was hit with a 7lb rock thrown off an overpass when she was 12 hitting her in the face in 1985. Besides the public's help immediately after the tragedy she's had no help. We never found who threw the rock which was bigger than 7lbs, I held the rock myself. We are battling with getting her ssd since she's never been able to work. You would think her ssd would be a given, but it's not, as her face is collapsing, she's getting worse with very little help and no ssd? She blind in one eye and has had 19 surgeries and needs 20 more. Its so hard as you know. This support is invaluable to her and I. Thank you for sharing your story because it really helps us to see the battle. It also helps so many others. Its time for all of us to not have to fight so hard to get what is rightfully ours. Bless you all and good luck in your battles.

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Yes, Mailman, but until you brought it up I just chalked it up to getting older. When I started thinking about it, however, I realized that it started maybe within a year or so after I was on the opioid program. I've never had a very good memory but it was mainly my long-term memory and that's been almost all of my life. My short-term memory has never been an issue and "you're" the first place I've ever admitted this. It makes me feel better knowing that I'm not the only one but also scares me to death that it could get worse and potentially lead to early onset Alzheimer's or dementia. Thanks for sharing this with me/us and I'd be interested to find out if anyone else has noticed this but never made the potential connection. Be as well as you can be.... Christine

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Mailman and Christine,

Aside from the brief explanation given me I've always had photogenic memory (yeppers) and Dr. Famous was telling me early onset dementia due to intractable pain is a potential or possibility.

But if I do not die from lack of a new physician (going on 10 months now at so reduced level that the Central Pain can kill me) I have always advocated FORGETTING diagnoses.

Short story a woman in her 30's I noted from a work injury 12 years ago (Ohio) was symptomatic for RSD. Sure enough I wrote her an assessment and her physician diagnosed the RSD. Prior to her injury no medical issues other then typical female ails over the years. This woman within 8 years had a central line, every hormonal deficit and disorder (thyroid to premature menopause to renal failure), and I kept saying "B--b stop thinking about all of this please let this go," we were doing this relaxation technique (one of my little research studies) where you try to relax the mind (about one hour per day) and let this all go.

When we focus on "what is wrong what is wrong" there is nothing right you see only the end...

I purposely stopped remembering my diagnoses and started (and this is not denial trust me I'd carry my brief medical history around just in case I crashed somewhere, took my pain medications saw my PM) but it hit hard when the one doctor I swear by in Houston died suddenly after 10 plus years on my case. I got sent out to Dr. Famous in California and the interim local PM a kind woman who stepped in and wrote one month for every patient of the deceased physician so no one would die (we lost 3 out of 297 they could not fly in they were not due and expected medications to ship from their pharmacy and would have to come in for this face to face) but now everyone wanted everything, and Dr. Famous informed my insurer for comp that she is a very rare case she is a "high death risk" and for the next year I felt like I had head first done a dive into a pool without water.

This guy did not empower us he wanted us to be slaves.

He did not have a heart; Joel was a psychiatrist for 40 some years and a PM for over 20 years.

He was manic and cruel at times; when my adult daughter died unexpectedly I was glad one of the residents training in his clinic was there for me this Dr. Famous had no children adored his little wifey BUT no feeling or emotive value.

Towards the end of the fifth year he'd give me a hug but blaze through yelling at some of us any of us like I've told many there aint no luck in being there other then you're another lab rat tested for cures for intractable pain.

So getting back to what I really meant sometimes its good to forget how much pain we have and why and just live...

By the way gang I must have brand Duragesic and after this many months and reduced dosage I was nailing the coffin the past few days. Well I've been tried on generics so have some expired (Watson two years and they have the lowest Fentanyl level the FDA allows generics to be 42 to 47% less opioid that's why they do not work as well) and anyhow forgot that IWP had sent me these little snakey Mallinkroft which are only expired a year and in all my dragging around know they were not over exposed to travel heat and so forth. Well the P450 gets to change them every 24 hours (rapid time and metabolizer both) so decided since I do not have an official physician yet (I'd like the one who wrote me a now script in Houston but he is having health issues but he is very kind and smart too and only 40) I'd try one. Now Mallinkroft is only 11 mg. Fentanyl compared to Duragesic at 16,7 mg. Fentanyl for 100 mcg/hour but I already stopped the 100's. I got down to 75's and of course being on patches for over 15 years do not have lower levels laying about but...I've been keeping on one old from the day before; post shower one new (went into renal failure after the last cutback a few months ago) and so far so good I'm still here. I usually do my second around dinner hour and that is anywhere from 4 to 5 p.m. CST no shakes no gags no anything if this is the case I may have enough to hold up while the i****s I just won against (comp) go through the appeal they are doing to try and hold up more on my medications.

My normal medication bill was running $25,000 a month. But the way I see it is I did not ask to have a legitimate workers compensation injury that destroyed my life and profession--initially we do and must rediscover a new role but many of us have divorce, loss of friends and so forth because the disease of PAIN isolates, alienates, and creates prejudice. Under Odumma we are literally lined up for his firing squad but he's almost goners and when that occurs let's hope for an old fashioned American and restore freedom and our Constitution after all we are the best...

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Hello, I am also interested in the Wednesday chats. Can you tell me how to join?

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This information is very helpful. I also had tooth loss, from decay and dry mouth. I am on OxyContin bid, and oxycodone bid. Also gabapentin 600 mg bid. Even though I take all of these medications it still does not relieve all of my pain. I do not want to take more. I've been asking my PM about my memory loss, I've been told that usually these opiates only effect the memory at the beginning of usage. this was not the case for me. I am having short term memory loss and long term. I recently signed up for SS, I had neck surgery ACDF, on 3 levels about 2 years ago. It did help only with my radiculopathy. Since then, I have pain all over my body. Not just in the neck. My pain level in my thoracic region is off the charts some days. I am wondering if my diagnosis may be RSD? Does anyone have any information on RSD?

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I think Angela castelanni is looking for freebies do a Google search she from Michigan an has her pic attached to almost every post she ever made if not her her sons are being propped up beggin for everything from clothes to teeth to food which she can't eat cause oxy rotted her teeth out but she got reviews posted on four square talkin bout eating calzones to with profiles so sad according to her the whole family is disabled even though I don't know how much beta testers make she definitely on the take cause she shadey

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