On Fentanyl - How Long To Wait To Take Suboxone (Page 3)

i am on 100 mcg fentanyl patch every 48 and given the certain amount of waste each month with one or more galling off and whatnot i keep a couple suboxone from an old script on hand. how long should i wait to take a half an eight mg sub.??? thank you in advance

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I agree. I will lay here in withdrawal and be uncomfortable because I threw myself into withdrawal twice already and I haven't taken anything in 2 days. I still won't touch my prescription of subs as that was by far the worse thing ever. I have been on subs for 3yrs and I relapsed for about 2 months. I had a drug panel come back and it just said 'FAILED FENTANYL'. Today is 2 days and I'm terrified.

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For 15 years I've been prescribed 150 mcg Fentanyl patches from a very reputable Orthopedic pain manager. My pcp told me he could help.After 24 hours without Fentanyl he gave me half dose of Suboxone. Within 5 min I was thrown into the worse withdrawal hell and to the emerg. room. you have to wait 3-to-4 days and be in full withdrawals before taking Suboxone. Sorry for the news.

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I have been on 200 Mics of fentanly for 15 years in when I run out of them hell starts bout a two hours later I start withdrawing and the withdrawals are unexplainable I no thousands of ppl will try in kill them selves from these withdrawals and me I can't deal with them there horrible u get weak diarrhea yhawning a lot no sleep for daaaays body aches leg in tummy cramps can't get comfortable no way hot then cold can't be still agitated no appetite legs jumping by there self while aching these withdrawals are the baddest thing I've dealt with in my 45 years. Cold turkey no. Not gone happen can anyone give me any ideas I can do or take to relax me for a min or two I'm dieying for some kind of relief so please give me some info on something in keep me in your prayers pls. I'm going thru it as I'm texting this I feel horrible now.. Jason talley

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CHAOS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE FENTANYL I WOULD NOT. THE SIDE EFFECTS ARE NOT WORTH IT. I'M ON 75 MG. I HAVE THE WORST FATIGUE, NAUSEA, MY VISION IS BAD AND I HAVE A TERRIBLE HEADACHE EVERY DAY. FENTANYL IS KILLING ME!!! THIS STUFF IS POISON!

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Hi Painwarrior-

I would even wait longer than a couple days. I will tell you why based on my experience... so I voluntarily detoxed off Fentanyl 9 years ago (150 mcgs of Fentanyl patch every 60-70 hours / 400 mcg Fentanyl Actiq lozenges- 3 to 4 daily) and I had been on the Patches for about 7 years. I detoxed under the care of a very specialized Addiction Specialist and this man KNEW his stuff and what he was doing (checked in / visited every day / had in home nurses come by / spoke with my two caretakers daily). Because the Fentanyl Patch absorbs directly into your bloodstream, it is a part of your body. It's a chemical that your body has stored in its cells and all around the body. I took me TWO entire weeks of no patch before there was clinically ZERO trace of the opiate in my body.

DETOX SCHEDULE:
Day One: Patch came off and Actiq intake increased.
Day Six: No more Fentanyl period (done with Actiq) and started Dilaudid every 6 hours.
Day Ten: Dilaudid every 12 hours
Day Twelve: Dilaudid once a day (morning)
Day Fourteen: 1/2 Dilaudid every day
Day Sixteen: no pain meds PERIOD for 48 hours (and that's when things go real bad for me... but I made it through with the grace of God)
Day Eighteen: go to my Pain Management Specialist and begin 1st dose of Suboxone (which I had to take in quarters over a three hour period of time so he could assess any side effects / reactions.)

Listen my friend, trust me when I tell you that bc the Patch distributes that medicine into your blood stream, it takes a long time to completely exit the body. And the longer you've been on them, the longer it takes to purge your body of all the toxins. Think about all your organs just marinating in it for years. It takes WEEKS to completely clean them out and anyone who tells you differently doesn't know their specialty very well. The patches are constantly on our skin as to avoid withdrawals- I used to overlap mine the last 12 hours of each 72 hour period (per doctor orders) bc the last 12-15 hours, I got about 20% pain relief bc MOST of the medicine was already absorbed. So just think about that; we are NEVER without that crap going into our bloodstream. Completely different than ANY other type of med. Equate it to wearing an IV that is constantly pumping meds into your veins. YOU WILL NEED A COUPLE WEEKS for it to ALL be out of your body.

Can I ask you a question? WHY are you taking both of those drugs? No doctor would ever prescribe BOTH the Fentanyl patch AND Suboxone to ANYONE so that means you're getting it on the street or from two different doctors. PLEASE just stick with one doctor for pain management. Mixing drugs without their guidance is dangerous.

I wish you the best of luck and would advise you to NOT mix any narcotics without being under the constant care of a doctor. The withdrawals from the Fentanyl can cause death all on its own- it's why they made me have constant care takers and called / visited daily. And had my mom and husband not been with me 24/7 monitoring my BP and temp and HR, I would've had to be admitted.

Take care friend. Best of luck!
MBK

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I don't know where to turn right now so I'm hoping someone can give me some advice. I have been addicted to pain killers for about ten years on and off. Every time I stopped before it was bc I went to detox or treatment. It's been about 33 hours now since I've taken anything n I expected to feel horrible by now. I have a bunch of subs but I'm not sure how long I have to wait to take sub? I'm really in shock that my withdrawal systems are not bad... still, I mean I feel weak n can't get comfortable. Is this normal? When can I safely take my suboxone? Please get back to me ASAP someone if u can. I need to figure this out.

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