On Fentanyl - How Long To Wait To Take Suboxone (Page 2)

i am on 100 mcg fentanyl patch every 48 and given the certain amount of waste each month with one or more galling off and whatnot i keep a couple suboxone from an old script on hand. how long should i wait to take a half an eight mg sub.??? thank you in advance

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If 2mg gets you to the point that you are comfortable, that is great. Take that dosage daily for 3-4 days and try reducing from there.

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it all depends on how long you were on the opiates. I used to go back and fourth all the time and never had an issue until I did and learned the hard way. however once you are on heavy pain meds with long half lives like fentynel or methadone consistently with no switching between the two you have to make sure you are in full fledged withdraw before taking suboxone. ask anyone who has ever experienced precipitated withdrawal what a horrifying experience it is, and then ask them if they would take a chance on having it happen again.

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so according to what you said - if I have appendicitis and have to have it removed - I cant have pain medicine during the surgery because it 'could' through me into severe with drawals? sounds like BS to me, and I doubt a surgeon would agree

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I'm a victim of circumstance involving a rehab center I chose to seek help from in Nov..2014...I was prescribed fentanyl 150 mcg. 11 years....I wanted off medicine...rehab gave me 8 mg. subutex within 9 hours upon arrival...I coded 2 or more times...was dying..unconscious for approx. 14 hrs...my family was never notified..no one would call 911 except my roomie which was an RN, as myself... in addition, it happens all the time at WhiteSands Treatment center...Ft. Meyers, Fla.....

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Ive been on fentanyl 75mcg patch for five yrs now. In the beginning they worked really well for my chronic pain, im also on norco 5mg for break through pain, so fentanyl that dosent last three days anymore, and the norco wears off before the four hrs, I got ahold of some suboxone 8mg / 2 mg, I took my last patch off at seven fifteen this morning, and I took my last norco at the same time, how long before I can take the suboxone, I appreciate any feedback, thanks.

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Vonna,

Sorry no one replied right away, any updates on how things are going for you? I assume by now you have taken your suboxone (I know the hell of coming off of fentanyl), I hope it wasn't too soon. Hoping you are well.

-m

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I am on suboxone. I was wondering if I applied one 50mg fentanyl patch, how long will that drug remain in my urine before being excreted?

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Lindalou

The fentanyl will be excreted in your urine as soon your body begins metabolizing the drug and will continue to be excreted until the patch runs out of 'juice' and your body burns off what remains (3+ days). But, why would you want to apply a 50mcg patch if you are currently on Suboxone? You realize its effects will be greatly diminished given the high binding affinity of Suboxone right? You'd be likely to feel very little if anything from the fentanyl, and that's assuming you are taking a super-low dose of sub and have no other tolerance built.

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Im on suboxone , I went 2 emergency room for stomach cramps. While in emergency room they gave me fenytanl. How long do I have to wait to take the subox.

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Was on 80mg to 100mgs of oxy a day ran out and slapped a fent patch 75mcg on its not really helping I don't feel good no energy can I take 4mgs of box to help the patch has been off an hour! Please help

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Thank you will take your advice

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Why in gods name would you only take 1mg? Take the whole thing and feel better. You deserve it. You've suffered long and hard I'll bet.

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I have been taking about 4-5 grams of fentanyl daily for about 8 months. How long do you think I have to wait before I take a suboxone? I always take it too soon and it's the worst feeling ever - it's like dying.... I want to do it right & get off this s***! Plz someone hurry I wanna start tomorrow...

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I just took off my fentanoyl patch 1hr ago. First time I tried one. It was 25 MIL. I didn't like it. I have subs now but, I'm not sure how long I should wait to take it. Anyone know?

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You can take a subutex and feel opiates whenever the u want but if ur taking regular suboxone I know u gotta wait. But here is my dilemma. I was on sub's since march (this is my 5th time trying to get clean). I ran out of my Subs ten days ago. Since then ive had 2 perk tens and 2 subutex's & 1/6 of a suboxone I took today. For the first six days I took the subutex and I was kosher like a pickle. Went two days wit nothing feeling s***ty, then I took the 2 perks and felt better not great but wasn't going to die. The next day sucked, and the day after that was worse, and today I took the 1/6th of the sub. I'm ok now. I got ten hrs into the sub done already but since it was like less than 2mg of sub with naloxone I should in theory be able to get relief from my fentanyl patch @24 or 36 hrs after my last sub dose? RIGHT?

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Hopeless:

You have many variables in there that affect how your body will react, we don't know when you took the 2 subutex, 2 perk 10's but that yesterday was 1/6th of a sub. Depending on the mg of subs, and when you took the others, you could have compounded the sub in your system by a number we can't compute without knowing. Anywho, regardless, it's not a great idea to keep switching between fent and sub - you'll find your tolerance sky rocketing in no time, trust me. But, it's hard to say if you'll get relief not knowing the amount of sub in ur system or fent you plan on taking. And, you are so very wrong in the statement that you can take subutex without waiting until wd kicks in well, as opposed to suboxone because it has naloxone in it. The naloxone is not, I repeat IS NOT the reason you go into precipitated wd if you dose subs too soon after your doc. Naloxone is merely there to deter intravenous use of the sub, as it's bioavailability is near nilch orally but when taken intravenously, well, we know what happens to an I.V. - o.d. with narcan. Precipitated wd can happen with either subutex or Suboxone because it is the bupe itself that is the cause. If you are not in pretty heavy wd, then that means you still have some of your doc swinging along having a good time on your receptors (even if you're not feeling great, you know it gets much, much worse-so until you are there, you still have doc in your system). So, you decide to take bupe, in either form, BEFORE you are pretty ill from wd, and what happens, is the bupe-who has a binding affinity like Hercules, floods in and literally knocks all your doc that was still hanging around, off of those receptors all at once and wraps them in a protective layer of bupe that won't let anything back on. So now you just got kicked from no-mild wd, to complete worst wd in seconds flat. Which is why it seems so terrible. Make sense? I always try to clear that up, so many people end up sick thinking it's the naloxone, but it is the bupe, I promise.

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It's already a second pass drug bc of how it was administered. So half the metabolism of it is already done. Also more fluids and any food u can hold down that's light, no red meats...lol, will help speed it up.

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What Happens if Im On Suboxone AndnI Take A 100 Patch???

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I waited 24 after last patch to take a suboxone. Oh my good i needed to wait longer. It instantly through me into withdraws.it was worse then regular withdraws. In my opinion fentanyl is just to strong for the suboxone to even work. But what do i know.

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I call bulls*** sir or mam. At least in my experience and my brother's, you should wait before taking fentanyl if on suboxone but at most you don't feel it as strong the first day. But I take suboxone before the fentanyl wears off. At least for me there is very little withdrawal. I try to switch at night and sleep through the worst of it. It's so mild I don't even wake up but everyone is different and I only take 2 mg twice a day. Hope that helps. Start low, you can always add but never take it back. Stay safe out there.

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