New Law Requiring Insurance To Fill Oxycodone Prescription
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Does anyone know what's going on with this new law that says you have to use your insurance to fill your script of oxycodone? My insurance will not approve it and they are giving me a hard time saying the dr didn't send enough information over about why I need this medicine. I've been on this medicine for years and I have slipped discs, etc. but now I don't know what to do or how to get my med? Does anyone know what I can do to get them out of the pharmacy? I have Maryland state insurance as well as United Health Care.

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Re: laney32 (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

Have you tried GoodRx? I have insurance and with the Insurance I have I can still get most of my meds cheaper through them. Check it out. Good luck.

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Re: Duran Duran 4 life (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

I agree ! There's a lot without insurance and pay cash plus computer has info weather you have insurance or not . I know In ga all computers are linked and as soon as they use your license or social security number it goes to all computers in state weather you have insurance or not . So it has to be the pharmacy being difficult like cvs or Walgreens . I don't use them since I heard all the horrid stories . I use locally owned and they treat people better from what I seen too ! I look for those chains to loose a lot of business by how they are acting .

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I have to have my dr send in to my insurance co why I need Morphine sulfate 30mg in order for insurance to pay for it. It is a pain in the neck that what they ask and if one thing isn't filled out they reject it I have had to call drs. office for them to send in back in with what they request and finally they approved it for 6 months in fact I will be due again in Jan for approval again its a pain in the neck but just keep making phone calls to insurance co and dr office

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Re: myst (# 22) Expand Referenced Message

No not feeling attacked at all. You are absolutely right! I have a terrible habit of it and i should be mindful that not everyone will be able to understand it. So thank you myst, i hope i did better this post :)

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Re: Donna (# 19) Expand Referenced Message

I hope everyone understood my post. What I was trying to say was, before this stupid opioid issue, doctors used to help their patience and prescribed what helped them. And yes, opioids is what helped me the most. I've had 2 back surgeries and the last one was a 2 level fusion with a rod and 6 screws. They explained to me why I hurt so much. Because I am so fused together, that are can not do anything, so therefore I am putting pressure on all other areas. The bulging discs I had removed my first surgery have come back. I have terrible arthritis in all my bones in my back, even now in knees, hands and feet. I have developed sciatic nerves and bursitis. Yes, I'm blessed, I'm not crippled, I can get out of bed and walk, but only with pain. I used to be an extremely hard worker and I've been on disability for 8 years. All I'm asking for is for my family physicians to not to do scared he will get in trouble and can prescribe to me what helps. Someone of us, HURT every day. I'd just like to try and enjoy the days I have left with my 16 year old daughter and my husband. Every since this whole thing came out with his epidemic, doctors are scared to death. I've been to so many over the past 11 years, there's not too many at I that I care for. I just need Someone to help me with my pain. And Yes, Opioids are the answer! MY BIG QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYONE NEAR Hickory NC that knows a doctor that would actually help? Thanks for your input.

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Re: laney32 (# 9) Expand Referenced Message

I hope you did not feel attacked not my intention. just text speak is very difficult lol I do some but whole posts small type hard as heck

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Which pharmacy as you going to? I have never heard of such a law stating you have to have insurance to fill prescriptions. Here in Tennessee they have a narcotic database that will show what you have filled regardless of whether you used insurance or not. And the pharmacy I go to has offered for me the pay cash when my insurance rejected a drug. I never did that because with my plan I can just ask the doctor to call the insurance and get an exception for the drug. I do know that CVS has some new weird really strict policies for their customers that I feel break doctor patient relationships and are intrusive. They want to know your condition and have rules of what you can take based on the answer and they are deciding how long patients can stay on their meds. I used to work for them but I am so glad I don't anymore. These rules break all the rules of pharmacists, and I didn't take an oath for that. So if you use CVS immediately find as new pharmacy to go to. I know I live in a different state but I feel like this is a pharmacy policy and not a law. Check around and look up this law yourself. I don't know if you have kroger grovery stores up there but they have been especially kind to me and I fill everything there. Kroger owns other stores in regions where an actual kroger is not available. City Market, Dillons, Fred Meyer, Fry's, King Soopers, QFC, Ralphs, Harris Teeter, Smith's Food and Drug, are all owned and operated by Kroger.

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Re: Donna (# 19) Expand Referenced Message

I'm sorry to hear that! And everyone is guilty of taking one extra on bad days, especially the ones cut back because of the illicit drug epidemic. A few years ago a dr wouldn't say anything about 1 extra. If you've only done it twice just take all records from that pain clinic even drs notes and try to call around for another one. If you complied most of time they shouldn't have a problem taking you on. That pain contract is so strict on good people! What's awful is they let you go before and didn't say anything! I've heard many good people getting done like this and I almost think some drs must wait for you to mess up! I know it's hard because you had developed a relationship with a trusted dr. I just know if they find any narcotic they didn't prescribe they will drop you. Sometimes they just label the wrong people. Maybe someone else can give you a better answer. Try to take one day at a time, someone will take you as a patient.

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Re: NL (# 8) Expand Referenced Message

I have been on a controlled substance for 12 years. There are so many people out there abusing it and helping those of us that truly need it. I've had two back surgeries, with the last one being a 2 level fusion with a rod in my back. Also, have fibromyalgia and not to mention arthritis everywhere. With the new laws coming out and all you hear on tv is opioid issues. I'm so tired of hearing that. Don't get me wrong, I do understand what it is doing to people and I truly hate to hear someone committing suicide over it. That breaks my heart. However, I'm in the same boat right now, I was dropped from my pain clinic because I was short a couple pills twice and one time had a Percocet in my system. I've had horrible teeth pain and I would have to take an extra once in awhile. They knew that. I wanted to see if I could get one more but the traveling doctors said I had to talk to my original doctor. She was on medical leave for 4 months. When she came back, I was ready to talk to her, and that's the day she had to let me go. Now, I have NOTHING. After 12 years, I'm scared to death of what's going to happen to me. Years ago, your own family doctor could help you, but Lord forbid, that's NO MORE. Anyone else in my boat?

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Re: Skip James (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

I disagree with the comments you made even if they came from studies done for the specific areas mentioned. There is no way that every patient is the same. I have had 2 back surgeries that failed, have bad numerous physical therapy places that also failed me. I have had over 10 injections in my back, again all of which failed. The only thing that does help is the medicine that I get to keep my pain under control which includes an opiod that I have been taking for at least 10 years. The medicine makes it so I can get out of bed in the morning. Without my medicine I cannot function so you believe what the studies say and I'll believe what my body tells me. You cant judge someone until you have walked in their shoes. I wish I could have a normal life without medicine 3 times a day but it's just not possible. I have multiple herniated disks, some pressing on nerves, along with the beginning os scoliosis and am in constant pain but try not to dwell on it, my medicine makes me feel like a normal person with limitations of course but it's certainly better than laying in bed all day writhing in pain. So studies do not cover everyone's situation.

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What you really need to do is inform your physician of the problem with the insurer and ask them to mediate. It's worked for me several times. The people at the insurance company aren't being mran. They only need justification for script of this strenght. My new Part D carrier this year denied my 60 mg morphine sulphate x3. I had my doctors office contact insurer and they approved monthly prescription for the rest of the year! Good luck.

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Re: myst (# 13) Expand Referenced Message

I want to thank you for actually finding and referring to a study done on opioids for pain that states they are effective for it. Now I hope that study makes it to the cdc or dea or whoever arent licensed medical drs. This is an issue that people need to stand up for. I was put on the oxycodone around 2005. I have several issues with pain in a few body parts. I had back surgery and ive went thru physical therapy a few times. Ive received the shots. Nothing helped for the long run except the medication. I was on the same dose and same strength for 15 years. I never asked for more. Never failed any drug panels. But last year this same time they scared my dr away. My dr just said at one visit 'no more oxycodone'. What is crazy about this is im now on a medication that is 10 times stronger. Who can make sense out of that? Not me. Im still trying to figure it out. I didnt need anything stronger. Its just I guess what the dr feels comfortable prescribing. I know it's been said already but the government needs to stay out of it and im hoping more studies will be done cause all im reading is there isnt evidence of it helping long term. Well instead of doing studies with true pain patients they decide to turn their back. I honestly believe that using opiates for true chronic pain isnt the issue. Somehow they are just deciding from people who are overdosing and I believe cause it's not being used as it should be. I never overdosed in 15 years. I never came close to it. I do want to mention for the families of overdosed patients. Im truly sorry for everyone who has lost someone from it, but on the other hand what about the patients who really need it and have been on it for so long with no issues. Not too many people are on our side. I didnt expect to write this much. Its just when I get into this discussion it makes me go a little overboard. But anyways thank you for referring to a study done.

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I'm not sure but it seems like they are constantly wanting to monitor everyone! They forget about those who have no insurance! Also, it's common sense to be able to tell the difference in people who are on illicit drugs! I mean here the computers are linked even with cash! All pharmacies show your records as soon as they enter your social security number or drivers license. I guess it's another way to make things harder on chronic pain patients! Good luck and I hope you're able to get the answers you need!

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I’ve never heard of a law like that, but maybe it’s a Maryland thing. I know that I used to get hassled when I had to pay cash in states that don’t have a prescription monitoring program because that’s a “red flag” since there would be no way to see if people are doctor shopping.

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Re: Skip James (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

Stanford did a study confirming that no other treatment other than opioids work for sciatica pain. The national pain report is a good site for information my guess is you do not have a issue with severe pain that only opioids manages so thanks for your opinion and if you are not a doctor it is none of your business how a Chronic pain patient is treated. The study found that Neurontin does nothing for Sciatica type pain.. I 100% know this to be a fact I took I took 600mg 3x's a day. I still ended up in the emergency room. It took me 10 minutes to step down 3 steps.15 minutes to get in a car screaming pain couldn't sit, lay down bend nothing. just could stand. at ER they wanted me to lay down I couldn't as I cried, screamed my blood pressure was close to stroke, the whole time.The pain was so severe I could not calm down. ER I made them contact neurology I have MS and they said the only thing to do is get me opioids. When I left with the script they did nothing there. I still couldn't get in the car. All neurontin does for me is makes me fall asleep. It is far more dangerous taking it than a low dose opioid. I would hate to fall asleep behind the wheel after neurontin.

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Btw, i forgot 2 mention tht my insurance company (priority) requested my new mri b4 they approved my meds. I hv also had shots in my back n physical therapy..ALL OF WHICH HAD2 BE APPROVED BY MY INSURANCE first. Unfortunately, thts just how things are gonna b frm now on. Its jumping thru hoops, but sumtimes u have 2 in these situations. Just ask ur dr 2 call ur insurance comp 4 pre approval..its rly the only way 2 go othr than paying by cash at a pharm tht will accept cash.

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

There are no laws that state patients cannot pay cash for Schedule II Prescriptions when they have insurance. Or any other prescriptions when they have insurance. Prescription histories are tracked through State Prescription Monitoring Programs. How prescription are paid for has nothing to do with them being entered into the state PMP. Although states include how prescriptions are paid for in the state PMP.

Not having a current Prior Authorization can stop an insurance company from paying for certain prescriptions. It is common to have problems with Medicaid Providers when it comes to Prior Authorizations. There is additional paperwork that the doctor is not paid for.

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What you need is called a prior approval from your insurance company once the doctor clarifies the prescription for them. Once you get the prior approval its generally good for a year then you have to get one each year. Right now your doctor needs to fix the script by putting the reason you are taking the meds on it so start with him/her then contact the insurance company and go from there. I hope this helps.

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myst (# 5) --

Lol..sorry i guess i hv a bad habit of shortening my words (text age!!) I reread my reply and "u not understanding a word of what i wrote" is kind of an exaggeration! Nywy, hopefully the ppl who can read it will find my post helpful..but thx 4 ur feedback!"

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Ugh I know your pain it’s ridiculous! My husband ran into the same problem he’s been on them for years and years! I understand we are in an epidemic right now but that doesn’t mean that people that are in pain that don’t abuse their meds should be punished. But basically awls you have to do is call the park scribing doctor and he will have to do a PA or a physician approval and then they should allow you to pay cash for your script. Which I know like I said ridiculous the doctor wrote the prescription for reason but you just got a play by their rules. Good luck!

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