Is Oxycodone Stronger Than Morphine? (Page 2)

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I just want to know which drug works the best Oxycodone or Morphine. I was switched from Oxy to Morphine. Was taking Oxy 10/325 and now take 30 mg of the Morphine.

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Hi I'm the person up there registered as willchill. I've read through these comments and the confusion I see people having with the wording and terminology. Most of you are correct, but I'd like to emphasize a couple of things. Oh, RN,MS, from UCSF CNS x30 years @ Critical Care bedside and instructor.here.. I put my credentials there and if you can figure out what the letters all mean then maybe you aren't on the right pain med.. OK that was a joke but the credentials are true.,, now I'm a chronic pain patient due to peripheral neuropathy. Ok here's the quick deal on what everybody is discussing.
True: If you take your pain meds exactly as prescribed, and it is indeed for pain, there is a very low chance of becoming addicted. It's documented in science journals so no need to argue. Terminology: Addiction vs Tolerance. True, taking pain medications the body develops a tolerance and when you decrease the dosage you will feel with- drawal. This is not the same as addiction. Addiction is the bad word that nobody wants. Look up the definition I don't need to write it here. Addiction is when the medication dictates your behavior and thoughts concerning how much you think you need, ie: is X stronger than Y?, If I take this X combo is it longer acting ?etc. and so on. People don't believe me but narcotics make me feel sick and I've only had sort of a good feeling from it the first time I had to take some as a kid. After that, thankfully I've never wanted narcotics and have never felt a buzz or high. All I feel is sick and sleepy. again I'me very lucky, but all of this talk is what generally what addicts are thinking about. They want to get that first time euphoria again. It makes a huge impression on people and that's why MD's must stop handing out for sore throats and headaches and muscle aches. It sets up the addict mind early in life to seek it for the rest of their lives. Non addict people taking pain meds for pain aren't concerned if X is stronger than Y. They just want relief from what the MD wrote for them. They don't get into the pharmacopia and look up chemical structures and which is more potent. This is addict thinking. Thinking that messes up how you live and progressively and chronically relapses and worsens and ends in one of three ways if an intervention is not done. Death, Institutions , and Jail. A non addicted chronic pain patient isn't counting pills or worrying about running out too soon. None of that. The addict sets up themselves for these problems by testing out combinations and timing them and all sorts of manipulations. The non addict or person at lowest risk to become an addict just takes the pills as ordered and doesn't need to come to forums like this to get the inside dope so to speak. Granted,a bit of a generalization, and there is normal overlap,with all mixes of behavior that do not make a person an addict. Many of the side effects and needs/beliefs of the pain medication and the power of the pain is all in your mind. Seriously, it is the brain that gives you the awareness that you have pain not the original injury or tissue that started it all. All those nerves did was send out a dreaded alarm that if the brain doesn't do something quick--tissue damage will occur. Chronic pain is a repeat movie and most of the time the origin of pain is not active any more. How do we know this? Phantom limb pain and placebo. I can't write a book here so you'll have to research this if you don't believe me. Chronic need of a pain med however, can mimic addiction and really I think the best way to think of addiction and tolerance is to ask yourself these questions with the most honest answer possible. Is my pain med controlling me? or am I controlling the pain med? Sure it crosses over a bit, but if you sit down, take a deep breath and ask your self this question and can have the guts to reply honestly then you have more information about your use of this narcotic than you had before. Unfortunately addiction is primarily genetic based in terms of susceptibility. It has nothing to do with morals or strong will or any of that stuff. It is a disease that takes control of ones life. but if we take these meds as ordered and not get into the craziness of which one is stronger (that is for the MD to know) your chances of having this environmental trigger to your genetic pre disposition for addiction stays low. We all range from little risk to very high risk of addiction when exposed to these products. Being educated and wary and smart goes a long way in preventing addiction, but I believe at some point in a genetically predisposed person to addiction life-.regardless, they will have to face this defect and will triumph or fail. or, if never exposed to the environmental triggers of addiction (almost impossible thinking of what we can get addicted to) will go through life unscathed. Again it has more to do with luck of the draw than moral character or will. Good luck to all..

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It doesn't matter what narcotic analgesic you're taking for whatever reason. You will become chemically dependent if you take it long enough. It doesn't matter how much pain you're in. Your body becomes accustom to any outside chemical that you put into your body for a period of time. When said chemical is abruptly stopped you will withdrawal because your body has become chemically dependent. This is straight from my board certified pain management doctor. My doctor said he has never heard of anyone in 30+years of practice that is immune to the effects of chemical dependency. He also said that some ER/CR type of narcotic analgesics can cause serious life threatening withdrawals if you're on a big dose and just abruptly stop taking it without stepping down the dosage. I know the package insert on my 80mg oxycontin pills have this type of warning too.

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Hello to all,

I was in a severe accident that left me with compound fractures all up right arm, a shattered wrist and my humerus bone went through my shoulder. I suffered from sciatica and it was made worse. L-4 and 7 fractures. Tendonitis developed in arm, hardware removed. Sévère Sciatic attacks. Loss of urine. Loss of balance. Pain is stabbing and taies my breath away. PM finally ordering an MRI. THEY REDUCED MY OXYCONTIN 10 FROM 4+ TO TWICE, PUT ME ON MS CONTIN 15×3 A DAY. STOPPED MY VALIUM, PUT ME ON LYRICA AND GAINED 15 LBS. STOPPED LYRICA. I AM ALLERGIC TO STEROIDS, COTISONE, IBUPROFIN, INSAIDS, TOREDAL AND TRAMADOL. IVE HAD MORE INCONTINENCE WITH PAIN OF SCIATICA. THE PAIN MEDICINE DOES NOT ALEVIATE WITH OXYCONTIN REDUCTION. WHY CAN I GET NO RELIEF? SECOND OPINION? I AM 61 AND THIS HAS CHANGED MY LIFE. HELP ME.

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There is a drug called hydromorphone. I'm am currently on it. its a pill form of dilaudid.

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rudy133334...its oxymorphone. Not morphone and I am on oxymorphone.

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Yes, in some cases Oxy can have better pain control than morphine, depends on the patient. The oxy you listed is generic Percocet and those have Tylenol in them which can help with the pain. They usually use IRs for people that have trouble taking Tylenol, bad livers, ect.

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I am currently on morphine 60 mg ER every 12 hrs )and Oxycodone 10 mg IR ( every 6 hrs) and have been for past 5 years. I have built up a tolerance because my medication is no longer working. I cannot be increased any stronger on these two meds together, as I am maxed out with state regulations. I want to try to go off morphine all together, so I plan on talking to my doctor about putting me on Oxycodone 30 mg IR only. The question is...how many Oxycodone 30 mg. Would be equivalent to the Morphine 60 mg ER -2×day and Oxycodone 10 mg-4×day ???

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I was taken off oxycodone 10/325 and put on morphine 15 mg. Will I suffer withdrawal symptoms from the oxy?

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