Hydrocodone-acetaminophen 10/325 By Mallinckrodt (Page 9)

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My pharmacy changed my meds from the yellow 10-325 v 3601 norco to the 10-325 white m367 mallinckrodt. I've been taking the yellows for years with no problems. Today I started the whites and feeling dizzy, a little weak, kind of panicky. What is different about the two meds that would cause this?

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Re: madashell (# 151) Expand Referenced Message

I wonder of all of the "events" that were attributed to hydrocodone how many were attributed to people with valid prescriptions?

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Re: w John (# 158) Expand Referenced Message

I am willing to give my pills up for analyzing purposes, they're not doing me any good. I think they're putting in 1 mg. instead of 10, this is my guess. It's either this or someone is switching the legit ones out for blanks that someone on the black market is manufacturing. We do not know what kind of supply chain takes place, it could be happening right in house where they're made, could be at the postal service/shipping service, drivers of the trucks, pilots of the planes, there's a whole chain of command that takes place where this could happen. It could also be happening through the pharmacy, the government could be making pharmacists give out these blank sugar pills. Also it could be the mfr. themselves in fear of overdoses so they're shorting the mgs. drastically in fear of lawsuits. I understand that the makers of Oxycontin were sued for lying about them not being addictive but WHAT the heck is the reason for states suing the makers of hydrocodone?? I've read where Mallinckrodt is getting sued too in the wake of this fake opioid crisis, on WHAT grounds?? They did NOT lie and say hydrocodone was not addictive, this is just a farking case of the crooked politicians jumping on the lawsuit bandwagon. NO one dies anymore from just opiates, it was abusers who were taking them with xanax, sleeping pills, and muscle relaxers and there were plenty of doctors prescribing these crazy dangerous cocktails too but this was 7 - 8 years ago or longer. The problem is there's still people dying from heroin and they group this in with legit opiates.

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Re: RhoRhoRho (# 12) Expand Referenced Message

And we can probably all guess that the lobbyists and politicians in Washington D.C. are getting HUGE kickbacks from these drug companies to allow them to keep short changing people on their medications. I take an antidepressant and I truly believe the generics are nowhere near as effective as the original mfr. of them. I cannot for the life of me figure out WHY they are getting away with this and HOW? Our government is short changing us and gambling with our lives and NO one gives one you know what. It's all about money and corruption these days and this is why politicians are living high on the hog up in their mansions on the hill. We all pay taxes that go to cover the wages and the running of places like the FDA and the CDC but they are not doing their jobs, no one cares that these generic drugs are worthless, they're letting the manufacturers of them get away with anything.

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Hello Fellow Chronic Pain People-

My wife went from being active, hiking, yoga, Gung Fu & Tai Chi to having had chronic migraines (like hit with an axe, fall down puking kind), then got chronic crippling leg pain, then back surgery & post-surgical pain and chronic back pain (several fused vertebra), then lung surgery to remove a cyst causing pneumonia, with stabbing intercostal pain. Now basically an hour at the grocery store is a major outing, followed by 2-4 days of pain recovery. All our plans for retirement travel went down the toilet.

We avoid Chinese and India generics like they were poison because, well, they might as well be. My wife used to teach pharmacology, and I used to be very very good at in depth research. The FDA is understaffed and underfunded. They pay for "onsite foreign contractors" to inspect and review foreign drug manufacturers, and well, they can only do "so much". Even with those limitations, anyone can go online and read the FDA reports on drug makers and the warnings and such that are issued. When you see a drug maker repeatedly issued warning letters for over 6 months that the rusty roof is leaking into the equipment, and there is no soap in the toilet, that maker gets crossed off the list. When they are repeatedly warned of insufficient or incorrect ingredients, that's another off the lists. When none of the required records are available for review because "an employee took them home to work on them" ... well that's called fraud in this country.

only pain relief we have has been via vicodin aka hydrocodone/tylenol. We "used to get" TEVA vicodin. That went unavailable years ago.
Then Watson vicodin ( they were bought by TEVA) Then WATSON became unavailable - I am not sure why but it seems they got out of the market to avoid the multi-state opiod lawsuits :-(

For about the last 18 months we were able to get mallinckrodt hydrocodone/tylenol. Until now. Suddenly as of January/February 2020, all mallinckrodt hydrocodone/tylenol is backordered and unavailable.

I just found out Mallinckrodt is filing chapter 11 bankruptcy over the pending "opiod lawsuits".

Somehow the Gov't has decided that cutting off opiods to "save" a few hundred thousand abusers is more important than tens of millions of chronic pain sufferers.

So, good people, where does that leave all of us? Any ideas?

Am I legally allowed to fly to Canada or Mexico with a paper Rx and my Dr. standing by to take a call or fax and get a prescription filled, and legally bring it home?

Has anyone had any success with changing to Methadone?

God help us all

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Re: shunka (# 164) Expand Referenced Message

I read recently about patients asking for 'authorized generic' scripts. But even if our docs write the script, who the hell will fill it?

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Re: RhoRhoRho (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

Google Rhodes Pharma and see all the complaints of their inferior Oxycodone.
Rhodes Pharma has been accused of inferior Oxycodone for years. CVS has started carrying their brand and it DOES NOT WORK! I'm in misery.
I've been on Oxycodone for years and never experienced anything like this with any other brand of Oxycodone.
I've had 2 back surgeries and about to have surgery on my neck. I'm in a great deal of pain and now suffering from Rhodes inferior Oxycodone.
I'm calling CVS first thing and reporting them everywhere I can find, including the FDA.

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Yes, I noticed the same thing. It may be the fillers and less pain medication

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Re: RhoRhoRho (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

Finaly i found the truth me & friend noticed the difference

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Re: Debbie (# 168) Expand Referenced Message

Are you saying you found a brand that actually relieves pain?

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Re: Darla (# 166) Expand Referenced Message

Dear Darla, Safeway also carries the Rhodes. How can the companies get away with making inferior drugs?! It makes me so mad!!!??????

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Re: madashell (# 165) Expand Referenced Message

Hello ????

I also take Mallinckrodt pain meds... 5/325. Almost 3 years now, and I wouldn't want to change. I had to leave Walgreens, CVS pharmacy and Beemans. The genetic type and their own type they started carrying was disgusting and was nothing for pain. I have chronic back problems and get epidural steroid injections. I finally found a pharmacy that gets their drugs imported. So I don't have to worry.

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You were taking Watson... Now you're taking Mallinckrodt .... Manufacturer

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Re: madashell (# 165) Expand Referenced Message

I just find out who makes the authorized generic, call around to find out which pharmacy carries it or can order it and then my doc sends the RX to that pharmacy with “X” Only on the prescription. That has always worked for me.

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Re: cliff j (# 132) Expand Referenced Message

I work in a pharmacy and I hate to break it to you but pharmacists absolutely can speak to the patients doctors regarding their medication treatment plans. Some pharmacies are required to ask and document certain things if the patient is taking a certain amount of C2 pain medications. Some things they will want to know are for how long they will be on these meds, have they tried and failed different meds before being prescribed the current meds, what is the diagnosis, does the dr have any plans reduce and/or discontinue the meds, etc. And if a patient takes pain meds along with any benzos, such as Xanax, and they are prescribed by 2 different drs, my pharmacy has to now call one of the drs to find out if they are aware that they are being prescribed both these meds and we are to document what the dr says before we can even fill them! Can you just imagine if the patient needs one or both of these meds and it just happens to be a day or time the dr office is closed?!? God forbid if it falls on the weekend or a holiday! The person would have to go w/o their much needed meds until we can get ahold of their dr!! I feel this is excessive and ridiculous!

Workers in the pharmacy are getting blamed and yelled at and while I don’t blame the people being pissed off and frustrated, it isn’t our doing and we absolutely hate it as much as they do!! Things r getting extremely difficult for pain patients to get their meds anymore since the so called opioid crisis!! I’m a chronic pain patient and have been on these meds for 19 years and I’m getting so frustrated with what I’m seeing from day to day!! I also believe that the drug manufacturers r doing something to the meds because they worked just fine until bam one day soon after the crisis began my husband, who also takes these meds, began to notice that they just don’t work hardly at all anymore! I know people build up a tolerance but come on now that’s NOT gonna happen in one months time to two separate people!! They are so f***ing with these meds!! I’ve also noticed that a lot of times now I will get very nauseous when taking them and stomach pain, sometimes with loose stools as well! I just know the manufacturers are putting some kind of anti abuse ingredients in them that r making them WAY less effective and making some people sick!

Anyway, I apologize for the book and going off the rails and for also giving you more than you asked for!! I’m just so sick and tired of what is going on with opioids these days and whatever the government has cooked up and doing behind our backs in agreement with drug manufacturers! It’s so wrong and messed up and having severe negative impact on pain patients that are in desperate need of these meds to function from day to day and are taking them as prescribed, not abusing them and r being extremely punished just because some people r abusing illegal meds that have NOTHING at all to do with prescription pain meds that r being sold in pharmacies in a responsible manner!! I would love any feedback from people on how they feel about what is going on with these meds!

Thank you!

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Re: RhoRhoRho (# 12) Expand Referenced Message

Would love to shake your hand.

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Re: Maria (# 174) Expand Referenced Message

Thank you for putting it out there so well, you covered it all. I guess the only thing we can do to change this bull is to stick together and raise hell. How else are we going to get noticed? Or, where to go from here? I'm exhausted most all of the time from the pain, but I'll do what I can. Write letters, make calls, ?? Maria, you'd make a great leader-I'm game! It's the only way to change things as you know.

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Re: RhoRhoRho (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

Amneal was the worst for me! Pure garbage! I despise that drug company. I complained too. I complained at Walgreens and they went to another manufacturer. Amneal is a crap company based in India where there is no regulation. Makes me sick!! This medicine from Amneal is s***!!

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Re: RhoRhoRho (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

But how do you go about getting the guaranteed ones then? Ask your pharmacy?

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Re: Katie (# 178) Expand Referenced Message

Well which ones are guaranteed? In my pharmacy, we do not order in any special requests for anyone in any controlled meds. We get whatever our suppliers send to us and have no say on which ones they send. We keep running out of C2 pain meds and C2 stimulants that I suppose we’re lucky with whatever they send to us.

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Re: madashell (# 176) Expand Referenced Message

Thank you I appreciate your comments. I too am so exhausted from the pain! I've heard the CDC is supposedly letting up a bit on their recommendations for people with chronic pain who are on opioids. I sure do hope this is true!! I'm fortunate enough to have an excellent doctor that still is willing to prescribe me the meds I need but I've noticed he has been trying to get me to chose medical marijuana. I can not use this since I have bad reactions to it. He's also recommended buprenorphine. I wish I knew who we could all complain to since there's so many of us seeing that our meds just stopped helping all of the sudden!! I'm trying to help make my pharmacists aware that yes there really are chronic pain patients who actually need these meds and use them appropriately! They should never lump us all into one category! Yes there are proper who do abuse them but do not punish those who do not!!

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