How Can I Get Subutex Not Suboxone? (Page 13) (Top voted first)

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I don't know how to go about this as I am shaking and can barely focus, I need help! Please. I fear that my life is going to end from my abuse of opiates. I am currently taking 250 mgs of oxycontin per day. I have a loving fiance and a stepdaughter that I want to be here for. I sit here with cold sweats, and fear going out just because I may make the fearful turn to the meds. Any and all info on how to obtain Subutex would be much appreciated. This wasn't what I wanted my life to be, and I can not let it end this way..Please help me. I am not a religious man but I pray for help as I am at my wits end with this drug.

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Actually saying an addict is incapable of not coning a doctor is absurd!!!!! I live in Alabama and when opiates became the drug of choice for everyone you didn't have to lie to them. That's why so many doctors lost the license. On my children I have never Doctor shopped and never went to the emergency room claiming to be in some kind of pain I didn't have. I had one family doctor when I was 19 years old after slipping at work and slipped a disk in my back which said doctor prescribed me perc 10's at this point in my life I rarely took Tylenol. After a few months I noticed if I took more then I was supposed to I felt so good and happy kept my depression at bay. Then those few turn into years of addiction a whole lot stronger pills. But I honestly bought them off the street. Now I have a Suboxen doctor and I refuse to lie to a specialist whom is trying to help me become who I was destin to be. He also prescribes me my anti depressants. None narcotic. Your a doctor surely you know that just because someone is an addict doesn't make them a lying piece of crap.

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When I made the switch my last dose at the clinic was 75mg. I waited 10 days per the advice of my husband. He said it was best to wait until you where in rough withdrawals. When I took the subutex I felt better no instant withdrawals from taking it to early. Read to many horror stories!!!!

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ya 10 days would do it!! actually with methadone you are probably safe at 48 hours unless you are on a TON of methadone, like over 175 mgs.

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That scariest part about making the switch was taking subutex entirely to early. So I researched the best was to do it because at the time I wasn't doing this threw a doctor. My husband had a script. I read that you should wait until your in withdrawals where not tolerable any longer. It worked for me.

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Anyone attempting to administer suboxone intravenously will do that once and ONLY once, unless they actually LIKE being miserable. Unlike subutex, which can be very easily misused, but not really by opiate addicts. Anyone with a legitimate opiate tolerance isn't going to get much out of it. Basically a waste of time.

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fortunately my doctor is HUGE respected in the addiction medicine community and really knows his stuff. he says 24 hours for most opiates but 48 hours minimum for methadone. ive been thru those "precipitated withdrawals" and they aint pretty!!

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Just wondering if you where able to quit the methadone program? Hopefully you have and your life is now worth living.

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Umm my husband definitely isn't pregnant and has been on subutex since a year after kicking Methadone cold turkey. He did good without a relapse for a year. When he did he started a doctor whom prescribed him subutex.

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I'm in Alabama and the difference in price between the two are masive!!!! With our insurance my husband pays 4.90 my cost for Suboxen was under 5.00 dollars. Without insurance a 30 day supply of subutex is 350. A thirty day supply of suboxen is almost 675. So more doctors need to understand that just coming up with the money for your Doctor visit 150 to 270 is already a big chuck of your weekly pay. Then you have to figure a way to cover this medication. When in all reality they could help the patients with financial issue which can trigger an addict to relapse. People be seriously for real!!! People are assuming because people like my self whom personally prefer Subutex over Soboxen just have to be abusing it some how. I've had a doctor tell me not long ago that the reason doctors insist on prescribing Suboxen is because the pharmaceutical companies give them a kick back on each person the subscribe suboxen to.

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no i am on 90mgs of methadone tablets. i get my methadone as a prescription from my physician, once a month. i am one of those people who just wasnt helped by bupe. i went all the way up to the ceiling dose of bupe, 32 mgs, and still wasnt feeling "right". methadone just works better for me. fortunately i dont have to deal with the snakepit that is is the modern-day methadone clinic. they are a business, and as such, are really only interested in keeping people buying their "product". my doctor has no such interests, and does what is best for me, not his wallet. my monthly doctors appointment is $30, and my methadone prescription is $15, so $45 total per month. i am going to stay on the 90mgs until after the first of the year, then i will start going down 5mgs every 6 weeks or so and see how i handle it. BUT...i do accept that i may need to be on at least SOME sort of ORT for the rest of my life. i am 46 and have been taking opiates since i was 16, so according to my doctors/therapist, i may "struggle" without at least a small dose of methadone. but i would like to make the attempt, or at least be on a lower dose than 90mgs. we'll see.

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wow, you are just plain WRONG. trammadol is an opioid pain medication. please dont dispense such bad advice when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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What for methyl o oban in sublingual tab is used?

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i am not familiar with the drug you named. can you see if its a different spelling or....?? they way you have it spelled, i cant find anything in my research or online with that spelling.

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Don't ask for generics especially subutex they are not nearly as good as the name brand subutex.

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Ultram is a very dangerous drug. It can cause Serotonin Syndrome, which easily can result in death. Many patients don't realize this because they don't know tramadol is an SSRI; they just know they feel better all over. To say that your advice is idiotic — medically dangerous — is a gross understatement. Combining tramadol with opiates/opioids or the latter combined with blockers such as Narcan isn't stupid, it's mindless!

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I completely agree. I've seen it my my patients and those oftheResidents I supervise as well as at the Drug Tx Clinic the uses methadone and other step-down drugs. (I'm nt crazy about methadone maintenance, but I do have to supervise that "sub-sept" of our Department of Psychiatry,

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I am dependent on opiates due to two horrible mva. I ace plates in my neck and pelvis, I tried suboxone but et terrible pain in my stomach and migraines. Can u give me advice for subutex

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I totally agree with you and KKK. Those os antithetical to the purpose of Drug Treatment. I have a Methadone License, but I've only used it to sign off on orders written by residents in our Drug Tx and Ed Unit. I remember the happiest day my life "officially" knowing that I was no longer addicted. I developed respect for Rx or CS meds and I do have them prescribed for me only when absolutely needed. We can't write for CS for ourselves in NYS anyway. I see "cross addiction" manifest itself in attempts to feel high "without the clinician's knowing it." Unless as a young rodent, this bulls*** doesn't work on anyone who survives the first year, WE had plenty of "replacement" opiates/opioids before Subutex and a drug along won't stop the addiction process.

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Maybe I neglected to state that Ultram (tramadol) is an opoidm but that's because, in my world we all know this. I should have mentioned it. "Ultram" doesn't sound like an opioi, as do Vicodin, hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc.

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Ever heard an EXAMPLE? Bupe is an antagonist/agonist, I believe

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