How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 2) (Top voted first)

I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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Alisha - are you sure this works? I take 40mg 3x daily, so what do you recommend? I have tried taking 2 at a time and chewing/crushing them and then leaving them under my tongue for about an hour and that does provide some relief, but it's like having gummy bears in your mouth. Why didn't they just leave this medication alone? The original formula worked great, the new one doesn't work at all.

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Have you even tried the dremel method? Ive done it with a handfull of pills now, and its yet to fail me in any way.

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scaredofopana, I had posted on this forum earlier on this particular subject....you sound just like me some years back...like 3 years. I was a respected woman in my church, children, husband, etc. I will not go into my diagnosis' because it doesn't compare to what you are going through, I am sure. But, like you, I ended up snorting them and had never abused any sort of pain med. in my life. I quit taking them altogether. To be completetly honest with you, I was never honest with my doctor about abusing the Opana's....I like yourself, never abused meds prior to Opana's and haven't since I got away from them either. Your first 3 days are the worst. The only thing that helped me was Xanax. Normally, I would never advise anyone to do this, but I am a Christian and definitely not "holier than thou", as a matter of fact, I used to judge people who abused pain meds plus couldn't stand them because I blamed the whole messed up system on them....well, whenever I became that messed up person abusing the meds, I became a whole lot more Merciful unto others. Anyways, Xanax is a wonderful med. to take especially when the "spins" start...that is the worst. I don't know about you, but when that starts, I started dry heaving. Opana's really are in a category all their own. The oral Bio-availability was so crappy on the old ones and I can not imagine that they are even worse now...I totally agree with you that Endo, the Pharmaceutical company, should be sued. I refuse to believe that through their clinical trials that they picked one single person who lives in such severe pain, that the person is unable to function or have any type of life, especially with kids and responsibilities of a family, someone who is unable to walk without pain relief...that is what I am like anyways.
scaredofopana, you aren't alone and don't be ashamed sweety, you are a strong woman to even be reaching out for help, I only hope that you get to read this before you run out. Just make sure that you get yourself some Xanax, but be careful with it, just start out with the lowest dose in the beginning, which I am pretty sure is the .25 mgs. When the Xanax kicks in, the spins, nausea and that sort of stuff does go away. And to obtain them, just do what you have got to do....I normally wouldn't tell someone to do this, but that withdrawal is the absolute worst!!! So, start making some phone calls and asking people who can be trusted if they have any and I know how awful this must seem to people reading this, but until you have been there....don't judge. Also, make sure to get yourself some diet gingerale. I dont' know why, but the diet gingerale helped me more than the regular gingerale. And don't forget to get the anti-diarheal. After your 3rd day, you will actually be able to pick your head up off of the pillow and get a shower. Begin taking Super B-Complex vitamins. I take the NatureMade. Believe it or not, this will help you. This is when you will actually be able to take something like Oxycodone and it will be effective. I tried some to prevent the withdrawals, but there wasn't enough of them. And in all honesty, I had to take 3- 15 mgs. at a time, so I took a total of 6 a day and I used them to get myself down off of them things. I was myself within 10 days. I promise you that you will feel so much better. Now, I refuse to touch Opana and if I do read about anyone reaching out trying to figure out a way to snort them, I can't help but warn them, not because I am judging them, but because I have been there and it just isn't worth it. It did help with my pain, but only when snorted. And after I began dosing myself this way....it was like a trap or a web that I had gotten myself caught up in.
I will be thinking of you and praying for you, and I mean that.
Good luck and also make sure to have gotten someone to take care of your kids for like a week. I had to do this....I was really, really ashamed because I think that my Mom knew, but I was blessed by her not saying one word to me.

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suboxone works well for withdrawl, and mild to severe pain, depending on your body chemistry and tolerance, but the active narcotic buprenorphine is also addictive, but much easier to kick. benzodiazapenes work well, but are also addictive, with sever withdrawls after extended use. physical labor helps honestly though, it works out the aching and spastic muscles, tires your mind and body, and is personally rewarding, dont get me wrong, you will still feel like s*** before, during and after, but your mind frame will be much better, and that is so much of the battle. keep yourself busy, and then smoke a big fat joint of the headiest pot you can find, it will ease some pain, promote your appetite, and also promote sleep. But in reality, with most peoples will power, i would say 2mg doses of suboxone in the morning, hard work, pot, and good food and drink....Do not drink alcahol though to relieve the withdrawl symptoms of opiates though, which will work for a very short duration and make you feel much worse afterwards. Nor i would suggest any real pain killers, such as hydrocodone, oxycodone, dilaudid, morphine, or methadone. The reliefe is temporary always and always leaves you wanting more. Suboxone is not perfect but it works better than any other drug i have been introduced to, it also contains naloxene, an opiate blocker, which prevents any opiates from working for at least 24 hours after taking the suboxone. ... but keep yourself busy, physical labor is satisfying both mentally and physically, and will promote the positive attitude needed to overcome a strong narcotic addiction.

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Jonson, I read over your post and I want you to know that you and your girlfriend both are in my thoughts and prayers. The more that I read about this subject, the more disturbed that I become. What does Endo and the FDA think that they are doing??? First of all, they never once informed us, the patients of the truth of their clinical trials and I had forgotten to mention this on here, but when it came out in the very beginning, Endo did warn the doctors and nurses that in the clinical trials when insulfated (snorted) that the effects were that of heroine and the withdrawal was very similar to that of heroine....I don't know about any of you, but that wasn't printed in my little leaflet when I picked it up at the pharmacy! And there was no warning??? This information was only given to the doctors and nurses....not the patients. It was in the PDR, but not for the patients and public in general to read. And do you all realize that the FDA had this information in front of them to read and they approved it??? I do realize that it was my decision to snort this medication which resulted in an addiction to it BUT the oral bio-availability of this medication orally (by mouth) is only 10% and when insulfated (snorted) it increases to 60%. The FDA knew that this was going to happen, so why the change? There has to be something going on behind closed doors. Some of the politicians have stock in these Pharmaceutical companies. I know that many of you reading this are having a hard time from sickness and pain, but I hope and pray that Endo will have to answer for this because this kind of thing really needs to stop.
Another thing is this: there is plastic in it, Polyethylene Oxide which is plastic. Long term use is bound to cause cancer. And whoever approved this within the FDA should have to answer for this, it's ridiculous. But the FDA and Endo Pharmaceutical KNOW that everyone is dealing with severe pain along with being sick from withdrawal, but Endo made a ton of money off of it, didn't they? Endo knows that rigtht now, everyone that has been on this medication, whether taken orally or snorted, isn't thinking about what has been done to them at all, everyone is just trying to figure out how to get this plastic, toxic pill to give them some pain relief and relief from sickness. It really upsets me. I want to try to figure out a way to find out how much $$$$ Endo made off of Opana and I also want to find out why the change when the FDA KNEW that this was going to happen? Because of the bio-availability, people were bound to try to figure out a way for the Opana to work. After all, how much money is it that we, the patients had to fork out for it???
When the smoke clears and everyone has found a better medication or whatever it is that one of these criminals...oops, I mean Pharmaceuticals companies come up with next, I truly hope that everyone will come together and stand up to them and demand to know what and why. Honestly, they shouldn't be allowed to just get away with this.
You all are in my prayers.

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Not at all...Oxymorphone(opana0 is 6-8 times stronger than morphine, it just has a 10% bio availability orally(50% insufflated, 100% IV, IM, or subcutaneous), like morphine. Hydrocodone, is only about twice as strong as codeine, which is MUCH less powerful than morphine, Whoever said Opana is no different than hydrocodone without the apap has no clue what they're taking and needs to look online to get some real info on what oxymorphone really is and how strong it really is. The only thing stronger is fentanyl..they're even stronger than heroin. Don't believe me..do the research yourself. The amount of complete misinformation on this thread is unbelievable. Especially from the ones that supposedly are taking it. I don't take ANYTHING without finding out all I can about it beforehand.

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I take 40mg 3x daily as directed. I do not abuse my medication. The new formula does not work, period. I am now taking 6x daily with some relief. At $15 a pill, I am going to have to try some other medication. Any suggestions?

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Les, I know for a fact that this works. I am prescribed 20 mg of them 2 x a day. And I am only using 20 mg total in a whole day. I, like you, tried everything that there is to try, and it all turned out to be such a huge, "goopy" mess, not to mess the stringiness of the water that any of the Opana was in.. That's why I am doing what I am doing. I know that it sounds like a whole lot of work and a huge mess, but it works. I am fairly young and I am disabled and receive the SSD, but I still have a life to live. Not to mention that I really don't like using the walker that I am supposed to use when the pain is so severe that I can't get up and down and walking. Good luck with this. And if I were you, I would only start off with 20 mg. and then go up from there. These seem to me to be more potent this way. But I took them orally before they changed them. Maybe they seem more potent because the bio-availability is a higher percentage rectally. I truly hope this works for everyone as well as it has worked for me. I can not understand why they changed them to begin with?? I just don't get it. Good luck to you.

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God Bless You honey Im.so glad you made it. I.pray that you have some kind of pain relief n some Quality of Life. Its such a shame in order to live pain free we have to become dependent on something that takes over our lives. And then judgemental.people look.down on us, as if we r not devestated by it already. Saddest thing is our Quality of Life is even worst than the pain was when the pills take over. Maybe one day someone will come up with a miracle for Chronic pain n Cancer patients.
Again my respect to you and prayers for everyone.

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The new opana is horrible...flat out it has no effect. I have been suffering from kidney stones and we think to be chromes for my whole life. I'm In a world of hurt. My girlfriend has scoliosis and is suffering more than i have. She was on 200mg a day of the old opana. Just from the withdrawl alone, She has been hospitalized 7 times in the last two weeks and 4 times myself. This morning i showed up at her place and she wasnt answering her phone or the door. Once i made it inside i found her on the bathroom floor having convultions with foam coming out her mouth. They gave us no warning. She was taking 10 of the new opana at a time with no effects. It wasnt abuse, it was desperation. I could cut up a pill and take a 4th of it and feel (normal) for hours. Just to prove a point i took 40 of the new opana er (40mg) at once, With no relief.... i didnt feel a thing actually just had a s*** ton of plastic in my stomach. Which by the way they're plastic time reliese. You cant cut them, you can bite them but u may loose a tooth....your best option is to suck on it till it disolves in your mouth. Dont swallow it!!! You will absorb more through your salvatory glands then in your stomach. You will notice doing it this way may cause slight nausea. If this happens take the pill out and chill for a few mins, then pop it back in once that feeling subsides.
The reason doctors put people on this drug to begin with is because its the best pain management drug that is resistant to tolerance. Morphine or oxy you build a tolerance to it fast enough to have to either get another pill or up the Mg on your script everytime you fill it. The old opana was different i never once had to up my dose.
Now its not doing anything... I know people snort them but that shouldnt matter if it works. They are now preventing you from doing that but in doing so they have made the drug completely useless. And with no warning, they are throwing everyone to the wolves of withdrawl. They should have warned everyone months ahead of time and started weenning them off the drug or onto something else before they just f***ed everyone over. You will never find the same relief as you did with the old opana. That means your sick as f*** for months as you are constantly going up on the dosage for the replacement meds with no prevail... The next best thing is heroin.... sadly the phamisutical companies have just created a whole bunch of heroin addicts because they are desprately in pain. So the crime, suiside, homelessness and the murder rate will sky rocket....Thank you for F***ING everyone over... including the innocent people that have nothing to do with opana. They just get robbed.... way ta F***ING GO!!! Im Going TO MEXICO... PEACE!!!!

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To be honest I have found nothing that is close to the relief I get with Opana, although roxicodone does help, it doesnt last near as long as the Opana.
Let me know if you change medications what you switch to and how it compares.
Im working on breaking it down the time rx formula. There are 2 types of Opana I am working with, The new 30's and the new 15's. The new 30's are useless for me so far. I am working on ways to break them down and the law of entropy is on my side. Honestly, As Helper mentioned, using the dremel tool will allow you to grind down the plastic to a "snortable" format but it gel's in your nose. Helper- How do you avoid this? It still works but is so bad I don't really see how you stand it.
The second pill they gave a friend of mine when he complained of this very problem. The are 15 mg's and you can crush them still but it is far from the relief the octagons gave as they also have the time rx. I have figured out how to break it on the 15's.

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Alisha, I am so sorry that you r going through this. Im in pain n withdrawing as well. This is just disgusting what they did to us n no one cares. Im sure my Dr is going to think that im just a junkie trying to get high. I honestly was swallowing them n taking the amount prescribed when Endo went and screwed us all. Ive been desperate for any relief possible. Im not going to shoot them although i would snort them if I could break them down. Since i cant ive been soaking them n a little coke overnight, putting that disgusting glob in an oral Sybrina ge n plugging it. I cant believe im doing that but im desperate. I get no pain relief but it eases the WDs. Im out now n have over a week b4 my next apt so Im deathly ill n in pain. My mom has xanax but i cant take them cause if Doc test me hell drop me. I am overwhelmed. And these damn things made me so nervous n irritable and worst of all they gave me a feeling of impending doom. I am to the point of just living in pain. Its just to much BS to put up with. I just dont understand in this day and age we have to suffer like this. I have no Quality of Life and it makes me want to I dont know what I want to do. Im a Maw Maw n i keep him full time. Its such a shame that i cant enjoy my baby r do anything fun with him cause of this crap. It just makes me so sad.
I wish you all the best and Im praying for us all!!

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Donna, I just want to encourage you to hang in there. This is awful, it really is, but it will pass....I have got to believe this and it has to. I don't know about you, but I'm done with Opana completely and I know what you mean about being out until next appt. with doctor. I just can't get the thought out of my mind that this s*** isn't worth it. Yes, I do have legit. pain, but this sickness is overwhelming the pain. I just want to be off of these things. They can put me on something different. The good thing about being out is this: I can start a new medication and not have this HORRIBLY high tolerance that nothing will help. Now that they have changed the Opana, I havent' had any quality of life period. Between trying to figure out how to get it to work and then the whole plugging thing, not to mention the even higher tolerance that I got from plugging, this has caused more than pain ever has. I am keeping in mind that no matter what, I am off of them. They helped me before, but I refuse to ever go through this again. Endo can keep their new ones and I am not gonna do something so stupid as to go to another doctor and get kicked out of my pain program. This whole new Opana thing has made me re-think it all.
Hang in there Donna, I am doing the best I can to keep thinking about when I will be better and that I will NEVER go through this again.

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Alisha I feel.the exact same way. Im.done with these damn things. And u r right nothing comes close to the damn things. I was shocked how much worst the WDs were from.opana than oxy. Oxy WDs r awful.too but nothing compares to the damn opana.
ive decided Im going to just get on Oxy 80s n lortabs for by. The lortabs dont really Help but i dont want roxicodone cause thats to much temptation to abuse. With the oxy 80s n lortabs they can only b swallowed, and even though the oxy r abuse proof n not near what they used to be they do still provide some relief. These New opanas do NOTHING for pain. And besides the WDS the other side effects r just horrible. I bet u in 3 to 5 years we r going to b hearing those commercials cause they r causing cancer n death. I hope Endo goes bankrupt.
im praying for u n hope u will pray for me as well.

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Yes the strips r better but I dont stay on the suboxone I use them for a week n a half r two to get through the WDs n then get off of them.

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SWIM got ahold of these new opana 40 er's. I did exactly what was said... and I can say that it is true that this works! A lot better than waiting around 6 hours to feel just a little bit... Just empty all but a little bit of the Afrin left in the bottle, mix a warm or hot tbsp of water, and cut up as many small pieces of the opana and let sit for 30-40 mins.. (i shook the bottle a little here and there to make it mix up) and THERE YA GO! I sprayed 3-5 times and got an almost immediate relief of my chronic pain.. I mean it was alotttt better than taken it orally... I opened the bottle to see how it all looked, and i could see the solution had become quite sticky but still "liquidy" enough to spray some out.. And the best part is, that i still have A LOT left. Just posting to let you guys know that I experimented with the "recipe." Check it out for yourselfs and let me know how it did for you too. I almost tried the way Alisha said, but seemed really drawn out and I was around too many people to be doing something like that as long as it woulda taken, to be in the bathroom lol. maybe ill try that later tonight with the other one I got... GOOD LUCK

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That was well said. That is the problem with our world there is always someone trying to pass judgment and put other people down to make themselves feel greater. Even if he are she is a junkie they deserve love respect and the simple things in life that we all do. I wad in a bad accident when I was 16 and almost lost my leg. I have had 3 surgeries that was basically the trauma team trying to rebuild it. Needless to say I am crippled for life and my entire body is in pain because of it. I was taking 7 80 op and 10 opana ir. They recently switched me to 6 20 opana er which don't work as well as the op did. Although none of them work better then the original OC are the stop sign opana I do sniff my 10 with the hope of some kind of relief. I do my best to do all that my doctor ask because I do know I am on a very high dose. But after all these years this is where my tolerance is and my pain level. So everyone be kind to your fellow man addict are not. I know many people who are on street drugs and have told me that they would have been committed suicide if not for their choice of drugs. So let's have compassion for those who are addicts cause no one wants to be. Good Luck to you all.

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I'm a chronic pain patient, and I side with the original poster. Anyone who says a person who administers their meds differently only wants to feel high and doesn't use for legitimate pain relief is an i****, and obviously isn't in our situation. Second, anyone who tries to discourage a person seeking more effective pain relief by telling them that a particular method doesn't do anything or will kill you is also an i****, and wrong. I've been prescribed every pain med there is over my life due to a car accident when I was young. I'm currently on Opana ER, the Activas brand, which fortunately CAN be administered in other ways than prescribed. Due to tolerance build up and increased pain levels, I HAVE to take my pills differently to get any pain relief. Taking them orally doesn't do a thing, and there is no other medication stronger than this prescribed, so this is the only option for myself, and many others. I don't look to feel high, I look to relieve my pain so I can function throughout the day. I've been doing this for years and have no I'll effects or negative anything. It's not gonna ruin your smell or taste or anything like that, that's bull. I will admit I'm sure there are people who just want to feel high, there always will be. But this person is asking about a legitimate pain condition and trying to more effectively relieve his pain, which I completely understand. So my advice to the poster is to ask around different pharmacies and see if any carry the Activas brand of Opana ER. They will help your pain much better, and don't have those plastic filler crap in them that the rock hard unbreakable versions contain. Good luck.

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LizaJane I applaud you for getting off these "devils in a bottle". I personally used to abuse my meds but I did get dependent on them because of legit pain. I wont go in to all the gory details but I had to get back on meds for real pain n to have some Quality of Life. However i was taking them by mouth as prescribed. As soon as they put me on Opana, Endo went n effed them up. I am planning to just ask to be put back on the oxy 80s. They r also abuse proof but I get some relief from them. With the opana i get zero relief n I have withdrawals. Also, i didnt believe it til I experienced it but the WDs from the opana r even worst than oxy, roxy, etc. I had gotten 1 month of the 20s n then when they changed me to the 40s it was the New ones n the WDs blew my mind especially since i was taking them by mouth, not shooting snorting r injecting. I never undrstood y the WDs were worst if u did that until i learned on Topix about bio-availability.
Anyway, i have a question, do yall wander how the hell endo thinks they r going to make another Cent from this medication? The price is the same (very expensive) but the med is absolutely worthless. And im talking about millions of dollars a month they were making. I hope they go bankrupt myself.
And while I am n pain n sick, my heart breaks for the cancer patients n those with worst pain than I. Why does Big pharma not give a damn about human beings?? I just dont get it.
Sorry i rambled on and I pray that everyone gets the relief they need n deserve. God Bless You All!!

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Hey everyone. I just wanted to let people who dont know that there is a way to snort these, and they help much like the old formula. All you need is a dremel, a shoebox, and some needle nose pliers. Ill go into more detail if asked, will check back tomorrow. Its great and really isnt too much work. Please respond

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