Getting Prescriptions From 2 Different Doctors For Pain Meds But There Are Conditions (Page 7)

Well I just really need to know if what I am doing is considered doctor shopping. I fell at at department store and injured my knee. Now I have to go to the doctor the lawyer sent me to. He prescribes pain meds for me but the only thing he can treat is my knee. I started having back problems. My primary care doctor sent me to a different doctor and he also gives me meds. But the pharmacy said they would call the doctors and tell on me. So I went and ahead and told the doctors myself so that it would not look as bad. What do you think will happen to me? The pharmacy refused to give me back my prescription. Can they do that?

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I wish the best of luck with the doctor. Post back and let us know what happens.

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Make sure the meds in the bottle that were never taken, are the same brand as the ones on the bottle for that script...good luck...and let us know how it turns out...

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OK went to docs office he's been on vacation for last week so office manager sent letter. I showed the unused bottle copy of script with note from pharmacist. Swore we never signed contract she disagreed but couldn't produce one which made her mad I don't think they are going to take us back I'm beside myself my mother is hurting because of me I can't live with that I have to make it right

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Just talking to the receptionist will get you no where. Listen carefully, you MUST go to the office first thing in the morning because those people are weary & mean at the end of the day. The receptionist at the last pain clinic I attended was the devil incarnate. EVERYONE thought so and I don't know how she kept her job but she did and she RAN that place. Even the Drs were afraid of her. The receptionist at your mother's pain specialist could very well be lying to you about the Dr on vacation. Where are you located? Are you on the west coast or something? No.Wait. There's only 3 hours difference between east and west coast. Is your mother in pain as we speak? If so, give her the medicine you have. You have no choice tonight. Give her the medicine and make her comfortable. I've got to take care of something here but I promise I'll get back to you tonight because I want to encourage you some more. All is NOT lost!

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I get what your saying but if your in so much pain and all the doctor's say your two young for surgery and the meds your on are like tic tacs what are you do when your not taking them recreationally but your taking them so you can provide financially for your family and if you're on disability. You can't even live on that paycheck and your in so much pain that a bullet looks like a better idea, but would it be better if the doctor would listen and understand why you do what you got to do just to get out of bed each day and provide you with the right and correct medicine so you don't have to doctor hop, but I haven't seen what yet.

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The pharmacy needs to call & check with your primary dr. & tell him what meds were given & ask him which ones to fill & which to keep on file for when you may need them w/ his & the other Dr's ok. I would call the other dr. That you were sent to by your lawyer . He is your main dr. & most likely a specialist who wants you on a certain med. primary drs. Are usually the ones that refer you to other drs. For injuries they can not take care of themselves & they can not usually prescribe a controlled pain medicine. I would stick with the dr. You trust the most & ask your lawer what difference using any Dr. Would make ? Their could be a good legal reason to protect you . Asking a lot of questions is what I always do !!

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thank you, i am on west coast, yes, shes in pain now and i had no choice but to give her some, the other NP at stanford wrote a letter to this new doc, of course she was bothered by it but she understood the situation, I tried to see the doc for three months faxing and going in just to get my mom their, they even called stanford and told them he only does injections and i still kept the appt because the alternative is to drive my mom an hour and half in a truck that hurts her back. now im afraid to try another doc farther away because wont they see what happened and if we tell them wont they not accept my mom. what she has now is not sufficient alone and they only last a week as prescribed and Stanford only gave the pain mgt referral for the surgery which recovery time is up to a year but the orthopedic surgeon doesnt give pain mgt referrals and her PCP is new and even if she gave referral it would be to someone hours away and theyd be booked out a month as there are none where we live. ahhh i need to talk to that doc, cant they see history in the narcotic database, couldnt he look and see this has never happened before and it was on honest stupid mistake?

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Hi Victor,
I've been reading back over the postings on this thread pertaining to your situation just to make sure I have the facts straight. It's a lil bit complicated but I totally get the gist of it. I still can see where the receptionist that told you the Dr's been on vacation is lying to you. Why? Because part of the job of the receptionist and the nurses is to run interference for the Dr.. I was just thinking that if you don't speak to the Dr face to face, you could write him a letter, first of all letting him know that YOU'RE YOUR MOM'S CARETAKER. You drive & help her get into and out of all Dr appts, drop off and pick up her prescriptions etc... You should detail the why's when's and how's of the "double script" incident.That you came in to speak to him in person on the thursday of the week he was on vacation according to the receptionist. That you really and truly DID NOT know you couldn't fill the script from the Neurologist(?)which was written back on July something.That you filled the scripts at the same pharmacy on the same day thru the same pharmacist, that y'all received the dismissal letter from him which is devastating especially since no one ever explained verbally or in writing that to fill the script written by the surgeon(or was it the neurologist?)was against the rules. That you and you alone made the decision to fill it as you stood in front of the Pharmacist who told you it was ok to do that. That you filled it in case your Mother with the bad back, that you're the caretaker for got into a bind because of god know's what, hurricane,terrorist attack, any number of disasters which could cause there to be a lapse in Dr visits leaving her in pain. Tell him you brought the whole entire bottle of medicine which caused the issue to prove you did not fill it so you could take it yourself to get "high", divert it or whatever sinister reason a dishonest person might have to underhandedly do something like that. Let him know it wasn't your Mother, the patient who desperately needs his care and she shouldn't be penalized for something you did. Address the letter to him like this, Robert Smith, MD or DO or whatever the case may be. This part is VERY important. Write in big red letters across the bottom of the front and back of the envelope ****PERSONAL & CONFIDENTIAL****. I hope this makes some sort of sense to you. I was late for an appt once at the clinic I'd attended for 8 years as a model patient. The devil incarnate receptionist told me she'd have to reschedule me and the first avail was 2 weeks away! It was near the end of the day, no patients were waiting and I could see the Dr and Nurse standing around waiting for three oclock so they could leave. I knew my doctor wouldn't want me to run out of medicine because I was 25 minutes late. Especially that the appt takes less than 5 minutes and they were done for the day. I let the devil woman give me the appt card & as I was leaving I knocked on the door to the exam rooms. The nurse I'd known since day one answered the door and invited me in, where I explained that I was very sorry to be late but if I had to wait 2 weeks to refill my medication I'd be in medical emergency mode. Of course he instructed his nurse what to write, he signed it, I hugged his neck and left asap.....

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oh my goodness, you got it, you totally got it. and you know what, i actually think the doc gets it, not sure if i ever stated this part but how i actually got into see him was by finding his personal email on the internet, dont ask me how i did it, and he heard me, listened to my moms needs and told me to call the office which took three phone calls, 4 faxes and reception calling stanford and saying the doc only gives inj's., no medications, so Stanford Medical center was telling me to find another Doc but i said no, i told them i personally through email talked with him, he gets it and so i kept the appt for my mom, Ive already done exactly what you said except the personal and confidential is in bold black, the letter explains my error and what i do for my mom, my only worry is the surgeons NP who wrote the script finally told me shed fax over a letter stating the date of last script given and that no more were authorized, i got a copy of the script and attached to the letter. so anyway, we are not there yet but i believe a lot closer as the good doctor responded to my email 47 minutes ago stating he would see what he could do. With my moms surgery and recovery and 3 months of searching for a pain mgt doctor here, it has been weighing heavily on me. I wish i had met you when i began this journey with my mom, she was diagnosed with severe spinal stenosis, had knee replacement surgery canceled, sent to Stanford medical center, where the doctors couldnt understand how she was not paralyzed, went through a 9 hour surgery where the replaced numerous discs, straightened her spinal cord in several places, hollowed out her spinal canal and used the excess for the new discs and inserted a stryker oasis device that looks like a contraption from a sci fi movie. there was no time to think about it, she was in surgery less than two weeks after diagnosis and they wanted it sooner. Im disgusted with the orthopedic surgeon who would only prescribe norco since 2006, never increasing dosage and giving cortizone shots while waiting for 9 yrs to schedule surgery on knees, Im disgusted with the primary care provider of over10 years who never followed up with his referral to that ortho doc, and for never givng referral to pain management at the same time it was his referral to neurologist that caught the spinal disease, even so we had to dismiss him from service while my mom was in rehab after surgery because he wouldnt respond to nurses requesting pain medications for my mother for an entire day, the dismissal was a formality so that the house doctor could prescribe, and when me and my father met with the doc about this, he seemed mortified, I realize that doctors are human beings, there are bad ones and good ones and if you can connect on a human level, he or she is my doc. Im happy to at least report that my mother and father have a new primary care physician and she, yep, SHE is fabulous, i will keep you posted with regard to the doc, seeing what he can do, i dont want to be pushy so i dont know if he goes back tomorrow or if i am to call him but i need to do something. Any advice on how to continue with this, i dont know what, i will see what i can do, means, i just know he is listening and thats a good thing. I know i need to tread lightly here, to have my mother in pain is not something that i can live with, because she busted her butt working hard labor so we could have a better life. sorry for the long winded story.

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A new Dr will get copies of your Mom's medical records from her last pain Dr. Writing the letter may or may not get to the Dr. But what you can do is send it Restricted Delivery. You have to pay for that and there is no guarantee he will actually read the letter but he will have to sign for it himself and not just someone in the office.

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If the Dr. can't understand your point of view than you don't need him!! Most dr.s dont care about you or your Mom. They have a family to feed and expensive gifts to buy for their wives and kids. I think you should become a Dr. because of the way you love and care about your Mom. Many Dr's cant see that. They have tunnel vision. You should be proud of your self. Dr's can not for some reason put themselves into our shoes. They don't care about you or your Mom. You're a good guy taking care of you'r mom the way you do!! The Dr. should take a lesson from you. You made a small mistake and you'r not abusing drugs just trying to keep mom comfortable and have her life available to you and family. If I were you I wouldn't worry about getting into trouble. These docs need to give up their script pads if they can't help out people like you. I'm sure they are writing scripts for their Dr biddies everyday though!! Keep your chin up and be proud of your self. Forget them!

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I am in total agreement with you, I never realized how lazy my parents PCP was until the problems and mistakes started happening, and going from private practice to a group, he really changed, and thats fine, but if youre not gonna handle youre business, let us know and we shall seek elsewhere, so after 10 plus years we did. and now they have a new doc, who also happens to be a beautiful lady. shes not most docs from what ive seen so far and i have a suspicion that neither is the pain mgt doctor who emailed me back. i sent him another email after lunch letting him know that i did come to the office and i did provide a copy of a personal and confidential letter along with copies of the 27 plus meds im managing for my parents and copy of script, i also let him know that he should have a fax from the prescribing doc in stanford stating no longer prescribing. And say that i think this doc actually cares about his patients, i mean, he couldve done the easier thing months ago from day one, when i first found his personal email, he didnt have to respond, but he did, and after this incident, i reached out and again, a response. where we live, doctors can pick and choose their patients, hopefully he gets back to me today with some good news, will keep posted.

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Hi Victor! You've done everything possible to take care of your mom & now it's in the hands of the doc. Great job btw! Fight for what's right! Take care of yourself and please let us know if anything else comes up.

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You stated that your doctor sent you to this other doc. You did not "doctor shop" you followed a doctor's recommendation. Get your doctor to give you a copy of the doctor he referred you to. You will be fine. Good Luck

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keikee, thank you as well, who knows where you can find support, this was so random of me to post here but im glad I did, you can get caught up in all the negativity surrounding thiese types of medications and people can be downright mean and see it for something it is not. it amazes me how you are so right on about reception and I think, if I never got his personal email, all of my efforts would have been thwarted by his very own employees, they see patients with real illnesses walk through the doors but yet choose to try to deter them,one would think empathy would be a requirement for the job but amazingly its not. I am anxious now, no word from the good doc am sure since its personal email and first day back from vacation hes probably real busy, but im thinking about calling the office tomorrow morning if I don't get a response from him. is that too pushy, we just need one more adjustment on the dosage and my mom will be fine until her knee surgeries. that was supposed to happen last week but got the letter instead, im like checking my email every 10 minutes, crazeeeee, my mom is not feeling good either, she put on the last fentynal patch yesterday, which 50 mcg and makes little relief. remember the good orthodoc prescribed Norco for 9 yrs. hate the waiting game......

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Victor, I seriously doubt the Dr is reading your emails or faxes unless his staff calls his attention to it. And they have no reason to. Your Mom needs to get a copy of her Medical Records from the pain Dr. That way she and you will read what any new Dr will and it may be an indication of how hard it will be to find her another pain Dr.

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I actually believe you...and I know personally about the BS we with chronic pain deal with daily, not to mention getting was is needed to actually make life worth living...If they happen to check...Have you personally ever taken opiods in any way for longer than a a few months...Even if everything works out perfectly and God himeself is on your side...If you personally have any kind of history with opiods it still might not work out the way I hope it will...even if you do have some kind of history, and like I said before...I actually beleive your story...everybody messes up and I hope everything works out...Christian777...

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Hello Victor!

If the Dr's office is reasonably nearby, you know what I think. Go there. In person. In the morning, first thing. If the doctor's office is more than 30 minutes drive go ahead and call, but if you can, avoid the receptionist like the plague. Many Physician's offices answer the office phone with a recording, "to make an appt choose option 1, to speak to a nurse, option 2" or maybe there might be "for prescription refills option 3". Definitely choose the "speak to a nurse" option. You'll very likely have to leave a message so prepare for what you want to say before you call. If I was in your shoes, I'd give your name & who you are in reference to their patient, your mom's name & dob followed with the fact that you must speak to "Dr painmedicine dude" (just a little humor for your enjoyment pleasure, lol) PLEASE! Be very nice as we talked about before. Very nice and assertive. Confident in your knowledge that you nor your mom did anything wrong to purposely get more medication so y'all could "feel high", sell or give it away. You don't do drugs of any kind EVER & y'all deserve to be able to at least explain to the Dr what happened! Please! Now, if you've got HIS nurse on the line and she's/he's actually listening and empathetic, I'd go ahead and pour out everything that happened. That you now understand there's a document which is normally signed by patients receiving prescription pain medication but that you nor your mom ever heard about that so y'all certainly couldn't have signed it......If they only offer options for "make an appt" or "for a script refill", you know what I'm gonna say. Go for the "script refill" option and leave a message with your name, your mom's pertinent info, that you need to please speak to the Dr.. I hesitate to advise you to leave anything more than your name, your mom's info and that you need to PLEASE speak with someone who will PLEASE just listen to what you have to say. I say this because you don't know who's getting those messages and it could very well be same receptionist you spoke to last week and we know where that got you......seems like there was one more thing. Oh yes, I don't believe you or your mother filling that last script from the referring Dr depicts any effort to gain narcotics for anything other than to have on hand in case of emergency. It's well documented that people in chronic pain have been known to hoard medicine. That IS NOT a sign of addiction...just wanted you to know that. I've gotta run get my two dogs to the vet right now. I'm gonna check back later. Good luck, Victor!

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Well actually it was the only way i was able to get an appointment, i found his personal email online and he actually answered me, my mom had only one visit from him couldnt we just state that we decided not to go with him and not obtain the records, anyway, I believe you are right about all the rest. thanks

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thanks, i can now not just only imagine what a chronic pain sufferer has to go through, minus the chronic pain anyway, so i guess im still imagining, but the manner with which one is treated is not something that should be allowed, no this could have been a simple transitioning error, someone decided to make a much bigger deal out of it, Im afraid my persistence is no match for all the other patients who may have done something wrong or those who have his ear. its disheartening, i really wanted to report back a happy ending but i am afraid not. havent got the confirmation yet but it not going in our favor,

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