Generic Subutex/buprenorphine. Ranking From Best To Worst. (Top voted first)

This is for people who actually take Subutex for the intended purpose for which it is used. So if you actually take the medication sublingually, this thread will help you. I have been taking buprenorphine for three and a half years now. This is what I have found: (8mg)

Best: Actavis 153/half moon (orange)
Middle: Roxanne 54/411 (white)
Worst: Hi-Tech 8/arrow

Again, this is for people who take medication as prescribed. You can actually break the medication in half and put it and the front of your lip like dip & chewing tobacco. It will take longer for it to dissolve like this but you will get much much more of the bupe.

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Let me clear a few things up... I noticed the typos after I posted the thread...

Best: Actavis 153/half moon (orange)
Middle: Roxane 54/411 (white)
Worst: Hi-Tech 8/arrow (white)

The reason i say Hi-Tech is the worst is because I have noticed different results taking those tablets. One day it will be strong and the next day I won't feel anything at all. Very inconsistent. Plus they dissolve very very fast. The reason I say the Actavis brand is the BEST is because it is thick and it dissolves slowly. Plus, every time I take them, I feel much better. I feel pain relief for my arthritis in my back. I will reply individually to the other 2 posts on here soon... Thanks for your replies :-) Glad I could help.

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Does keeping the leftover saliva\bupe mixture under your toung for longer periods help at all? I try not to swallow the bupe-liva for 30 min.+...but it's a pain in the ass and if it doesn't do any good, no sense in doing it.

So, do you get all you're going to after the initial dissolve or ?

Thoughts/knowledge?

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TAC831, I'm glad I could help you! Unfortunately, I think that most of the people that are taking buprenorphine started out hitting rock-bottom at some point. Most of the doctors around my area won't even prescribe it unless you have hit rock bottom... and they are pretty good at telling whether or not you're for real. But I'm glad to hear that the medicine is working so well for you. It literally saved my life. I was up to 20 Percocet (oxycodone) 10s per day. If I couldn't get those, I would take Roxy's or Hydromorphone (Dilaudid). I was in baaaaaad shape. Now, it did start out as legitimate pain because I did hurt myself at work. Later that week, I walked out of a pain clinic with a prescription to 150 Percocet 10/325's. I was hooked on oxycodone before the end of that month. I stayed hooked on oxycodone for about 8 years before I found Suboxone. I took Suboxone for about 2 years and have been taking Subutex ever since. Had I not found that medicine, I would have eventually overdose and kill myself. Buprenorphine saved my life. I fully intend to take it for the rest of my life. It has had no negative effect on me or my family. (Aside from occasional constipation hahaha - but fiber powder from walmart will cure that right up). I have a girlfriend and two kids and we have a good family. The medicine has not affected my relationship with my kids or my girlfriend. Honestly, so you no reason not to take it. I get excellent pain relief from it and I do not get a "high" off of it that I am hooked on. So now you know a little bit about my story. Stay positive and keep up the good work! If you need this medicine and take it like you are supposed to, it will continue to make your life better. Don't let anyone tell you different.

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Thank you for your help. I also have been on Subutex for about 3 years and I just got the orange one with a half of moon and your post really did help me. I am so happy there are people like you that like to help others and not just look down on them. My family has a hard time understanding that I have to be on this medicine but I know 3 years ago when I hit rock bottom and I prayed to God to help me. I went to a doctor for of course not the right reason but he knew and talked to me about Suboxone but now I have worked my way down to Subutex and unfortunately I have health problems that means I will have to be on this for the rest of my life but I feel better about this medication because not only does it help me with withdrawals but it is something that also helps a little when I'm in pain. Thank you for ur advice, I wish there were more people that understood.

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Like I said, I'll put the medicine in the front part of my lip like chewing tobacco. So because there is not a lot of spit in that area, it takes a much longer time to dissolve. Sometimes it'll take up around 2 hours to dissolve. But you get much better results from the medicine through this method. So the short answer to your question, yes.

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Re: Jessica (# 9)

Sun pharma is a TERRIBLE company. They are in India and have been shut down and cited before for deplorable lab conditions. I can’t stand them.

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I have the damn Hi-Tec pills, they dissolve petty quick, but I tried the pill in my lip and it works much better. I'm taking them for chronic pain...so the better they work,the better I feel ;)

Thx for teh help!

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Re: Jessica (# 7)

I just got them too. Ice thrown up everyday since I got them! :( and I was content with the Hi-Tech ones I have been taking for 8months because I didn't know the difference in brands and ive always got mine at riteaid and went to cvs randomly and these sun pharmaceuticals brand are terrible. I can't ,function or eat and CVS doesn't give a damn, idk what to do till I go back to my doc next month

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I don't know man I think you guys are all looking too much into this. I've had every different brand Under the Sun and they all seem to do the same. It's definitely in your head which that's kind of how addicts react to different brand medications. Hi-Tech are very concentrated and they're very strong. Purdue Pharma came out with a Subutex within the last year and I think those are the best but I don't want to support a company that put me in the position that I am in. Maybe just take the medication and stop thinking too much about it and reading all this junk online. I'm just saying!

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The Roxane brand was bought out by West-Ward Pharmaceutical Company. Their subutex is the white round 460 for 8mg. They do have a burning sensation but it beats w/d anyway. I contacted the company and requested information on their version. It is exactly as the other Roxane 54/411 we are used to. Obviously something is off with the fillers which makes it bitter. They were very helpful and returned my email soon. Their number is 1-888-241-7108. Or West-Ward Pharmaceutical Company Columbus. The mind is a powerful thing. To my knowledge the other ones are being phased out so it's this or...?? For myself I've been on them since 2005. I have tried all other brands. Imma stick with these. The duration is as long and quality. My only concern which I told them is the "burning" creates more salivation which leaves me with more to absorb. Takes longer. Anyway good luck.

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Subutex saved my life. The issue is the pharmacists. They treat me like a drug addict stll. Just to show u that ignorance is rampid with those who claim to be educated. I di not accept their judgment. We r recoverying!!!! F them!

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I had the half moons a year or more ago before I was prescribed and didn't care for them. I read on a different post that those or a different one was supposed to be swallowed.. Idk if that was right but I didn't get nothing out of those. The best for me is the 54 411 ones. I just got a new one 2 weeks ago and hated it so much! It didn't help as much but the killer was it burned like hell! It shocked and burned my tongue like no other. Idk why either. But, it was every time, not just once, so bad I couldn't stand taking it. It's from sun pharmaceuticals and it's white with 460 on it. I guess they are super new as I couldn't find much info about it. But, cvs is now getting these only, so today I have called 15 pharmacies and nobody has anything except the sun ones or the arrow with 8 on it. I'm so sad bc I need my medicine.

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I have been on Subutex for a couple of years now and never had a problem getting my script filled. I live in the Tampa area. Recently, my normal CVS and about 6 others close to me have been out of Subutex completely. I don't understand how that is possible. I ended up going to Walgreens and got the Activis brand ( orange with half Moon). I have been nauseous since I started taking them. I use to take the Mylans and never had a problem. Has anyone else had physical effects from switching brands? It seems everyone has there own preferences, but I just don't feel great on the orange ones. Definitely going to look around before next refill because I don't like how I feel on the oranges.

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Re: BigDaddy8484 (# 3)

What is your opinion on the M924 round white subutex? I feel like I'm a lot more tired since I started these but I also know I have a lot of stress catching up to me & pack of sleep. So I wasn't sure if it was these M924 bc I'm use to the 54s , or if that's just in my head & all my "symptoms" are just my own person problems unrelated to either one.. I hear the "drug" amount & kind is the same but the filler itself is made with different stuff.. What is different in the filler in the M924 then the filler in the 54s and are there side effects different in the M924 different then the 54s?

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the orange are awful. Roxanne are the best. I've taken subs for 5 years and will not fill my script until i known for sure its the Roxanne.

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Re: Mike (# 37)


So let me get this right... Because the actavis brand works for me but not you, I'm a shill? That's pretty impressive logic coming from a small-minded little **** like yourself. Do yourself a favor and stay off of threads like this if you don't have anything to contribute.

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Hey all. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. I am currently on Subutex (as of recently) 8mg & was previously on Suboxone (have been on both before a number of years ago). When I was switched to Subutex, I didn’t pay attention to the manufacturer as it didn’t really occur to me to do so. My first prescription contained the arrow pills. I just got my second script filled today & realized they were different pills. So I looked them up (hence, how I came across this message board) & they are the Roxanne 54 411’s. So yes, they do still make them. Both scripts I had filled @ Giant Pharmacy (don’t think anyone has mentioned getting their scripts there). I’m in Virginia so just wanted to let those of you who prefer this brand &/or live in the MD/Va/DC/Metro area, Giant does in fact supply the 54 411’s. Just taking my first 1 so don’t know how I feel about them yet but we will see. Also, ppl are going to have different preferences so there’s no reason to lash out @ another if they prefer a brand that you might not. This is about supporting one another by offering advice through personal experiences guys so let’s keep it civil. Life is hard enough on its own. Just saying.

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Re: Pattyh (# 52)

Next time that you feel discriminated against, ask to speak to the head Pharmacist. If he/she is unwilling to listen to you & take your complaint seriously, go to the front of the store & ask to speak to the manager. If they choose not to handle the situation appropriately, ask for a complaint form. They have them & they cannot deny you of one. I was a pharmacy tech for years. I know how it works, as well as the stereotypical attitudes & ignorance that comes from employees who are there to do a service for customers, not to judge..PERIOD!! And if you want to make them nervous, calmly mention (indirectly, but loud enough for them to hear) that you have or are planning on making contact with your local/nearby newspapers & new stations to tell them about the horrible ordeals you have to go through just to get your medications filled. Trust me, they will freak out!! Even if you’re just blowing smoke, watch the change that occurs when the head pharmacist & store manager fear that you will go to the press. I’ve seen it happen & it’s hilarious to see how quickly the judgemental ppl on positions of authority turn to complete cowards when faced with being exposed for who they really are! Hope things get better for you & remember, you now have the upper hand with that info so hold onto it &
If necessary, do what you have to do.

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Re: Skyzdalimit (# 171)

The half moon orange ones are terrible , the 54 411 and the Rps, and the 8 with the arrow are way better than the half moon orange ones

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I had the same issue with cvs in my town. Anywhere else I've had no issues. Cvs was where I went to to get the 54 411 BUT now they have switched to this new brand that are not good at all! They burned the hell out of my tongue.. Like a shocking and. Burning feeling. I don't know why and it was every time too. They are extremely new, the manufacturer is sun pharmaceutical. So this past week I called 30 pharmacies to find my regular ones the 54 411 and the only one was a Walmart neighborhood market. I never even. Knew there were those lol but it was about 40 mins from me but totally worth it. So, I suggest you call around like I did. I only had one place tell me they couldn't give me the info but all others were nice. I told them I had a bad reaction to the other ones, oh they say 460 on them, and my Dr told me to search around. So, good luck if u try to find em. Thanks for the reply too

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