Generic Opana-people Speak Up (Page 3)
UpdatedThey are saying that the new opana works as well as the old. There are so many peoples statements that I have read saying the new don't work as well but yet Endo states their research don't prove that. All people who have a real medical problem that causes pain and takes new opana and it doesn' work as well as the old needs to speak up. One person can't change anything. People who are being treated awful by medical doctors and pain clinics because they have pain also need to speak up.
Martha. Your pain management doctor can write a prior authorization stating that you need the generic oxymorphone to manage your pain. Make sure that he writes the prescription as "oxymorphone 40mg ER." It will also help to print out the page from the Global Pharmaceutical website that lists the generics and the strengths that they come in. I had the same problem with my insurance company. It takes a little extra work from your doctor, but most PM doctors will take the time to make sure you get what will work best for you. I hope that this helps you!!
By the way, the generic oxymorphone is absolutely wonderful at relieving my pain!! I am prescribed 1-40mg, plus 1-20mg to be taken every 12 hours. I am also prescribed 3-10mg oxymorphone IR's for breakthrough pain. I very rarely need to take the IR's because the ER's in generic form manage my pain just fine!! Best of luck to all of you who want to be switched over to the generics. They are the best pain medication that I've ever been on, and I've been on everything in the past 7 years.
Martha, that does not make any sense. The generics are always cheaper than the name brand version. There is at least a few hundred dollars difference for me. Not even the co-pay card for the brand name makes up the difference. I'm surprised your insurance company is making you buy name brand. Usually, they do everything they can to make their clients switch to generics. What company provides your health insurance?
Also, Actavis does not make a 40mg Opana ER generic tablet. The Actavis generics only come in sizes 7.5 mg and 15 mg.So, if your doctor wrote you a script for Actaivis 40 mg, then he wrote a script for a non-existent medicine. Only the Global/Impax generic comes in 40 mg.
Here is a link to the Actavis generic oxymorphone ER:
actavis.com/en/Products/SearchProductResults.htm?search_criteria=oxymorphone
Martha, Timmy is absolutely right on this. Your doctor did write a prescription for Activis, which does NOT have a 40mg pill available. Your doctor must write the script as oxymorphone 40mg ER, and you will get the Global/Impax generic which are absolutely terrific!! You will get the same relief as the original version of Opana before they decided to make it into chewing gum!!
All CPP people please let the FDA and Global and Endo know that the generic opana er works better than the hard ones that came out last spring. Endo keeps claiming that the hard shell opana's work just as good as the original opana's. All true CPP people know that isn't true. We need to let the FDA know it and Global because DEA, police etc. in many different states are trying to make the FDA make the med companies make all their pain meds the hard shell kind. They are even after the generic companies. Next they are going to change the hydromorphone-dilaudid to abuse free. I don't know what kind of crap they put in it to make it abuse free but the pain medicine in it don't work. years from now they are going to find the crap they put in the meds to make it hard, it will cause cancer or heart problems etc. If it works don't mess with it. The laws are so tight now to be able to have pain meds for true pain they are starting to treat the CPP people like criminals and that isn't right.
No, the doctor wrote my prescription for Opana ER 40 and wrote DAW (dispense as written)! I didn't know that and looked up info on the generic after I had my prescription - I saw Activis made generic so I called them and THEY TOLD ME THEY DO MAKE 40ER's so I asked my pharmacy if they could order them. They did but before I went to pick them up I looked at my prescription and noticed the "DAW" so before calling the dr I decided to check my insurance which is Medicare and they told me what I said above - that when they first come out the price for the generic on some drugs is almost as much as the brand so they don't cover them. So the fact that my dr wrote DAW and my insurance doesn't cover it I decided to get the brand AGAIN. When I go back to PM I am going to tell them what has happened to me since I've been taking the new TRF - I had reflux surgery for reflux and hiatal hernia in March, in April I got the new formula. Sometime between April and March this year I developed two ulcers! I don't think it's a coincidence and I believe the new formula caused those ulcers because for as many years as I've had reflux and I did not have them in March 2012 I develop two ulcers??
Who ever you spoke to wasn't paying attention to what you said. I called them and looked up on their web site for 40 ER and they do not make them. Global is the only company that won their law suite to make the stronger Opana's as generic. There are other companies to follow this year but later in the year if the FDA and Endo doesn't stop them. Endo had stop generic from coming out last Sept. but couldn't stop it from coming out this year in January. Activis was only granded to make the 7.5 ER and 15 ER. Below is what I found on there web site.
I find it strange that they won't pay for generic because my company is showing it is $150.00 cheaper than the brand. It seems they would save a good bet of money if they would like people receive the generic.
Product Category
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Oral Contraceptives
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Product Name Description Additional Information
OXYMORPHONE HCL ER
OXYMORPHONE HCl ER 15 mg TABLETS 100s
NDC: 00228-3262-11
*Compare to: Opana ER® U.S. Prescribing Info
Medication Guide
OXYMORPHONE HCl ER 7.5 mg TABLETS 100s
NDC: 00228-3261-11
*Compare to: Opana ER® U.S. Prescribing Info
Medication Guide
*Brand names are the trademarks of the products' manufacturers and/or owners.
**Products illustrated may not appear at actual size and/or exact color.
Martha, Activis only makes 7.5, and 15mg oxymorphone. Whomever you spoke to at their company is probably just a Customer Service rep that doesn't know what they make. Right now your options are Opana 40mg ER's, or the Global/Impax generic oxymorphone in 10mg, 20mg, 30mg, and 40mg ER's. There will be more companies coming out with generic oxymorphone later this summer, but as of today, these are your choices.
Martha, did the doctor write "Opana ER 40 mg" on the script or "Oxymorphone ER 40 mg" ? If the doctor wrote "Opana ER 40 mg" and dispense as written (DAW), then that means that the pharmacist can only give you the name brand version made by Endo. If he wrote "Oxymorphone ER 40 mg", then you can only get the generic version which is made by Impax/Global. If the doctor wrote only "Opana ER 40 mg" , then you can get either the generic or name brand, but most pharmacies will automatically fill the generic. In almost every state, if the doctor does not write dispense as written, then you are allowed to use a generic instead of name brand.
Also, why do you refuse to believe that Actavis only makes a generic in sizes 7.5 mg and 15 mg? I posted the link to their official product catalog. I don't know what it would take to convince you it is true. Again, Actavis only makes the generics in sizes 7.5 mg and 15 mg. Anybody who says otherwise is either clueless or lying.
I absolutely agree with Nicky's post. I can also verify that the generic is $300 cheaper for me. The amount of money you save on generics is determined by the dose and frequency you take the medicine. There is a significant price difference though. Like Nicky said, the people you spoke with/to are at the very least incompetent. It is easy to verify that they have no idea what they are talking about and everyone here does.
CPP is correct. Chronic pain patients are under unprecedented attacks by various groups. There are many extreme and radical anti-opioid pain medicine groups out there. These groups are constantly harassing the FDA and are lobbying members of congress to pass draconian laws on opioids for chronic non-cancer pain patients. Here is a list of groups with extreme,dangerous, and puritanical views on opioid pain medicines.
1) supportprop.org/index.html
2) rxreform.org
3) rummlerfoundation.org
4) causes.com/causes/661351-save-the-michaels-of-the-world
5) prescriptionopioidreform.com/Board_of_Advocates.html
Here is another link to verify what CPP says is true:
americannewsreport.com/nationalpainreport/lawmakers-urge-fda-to-block-generic-painkillers-8819131.html
Also, the FDA has already held a hearing on opioids and was basically forced to listen to only people who hate opioids and want them only used for treating cancer pain. Here is a link to the hearing ( ALL CHRONIC PAIN PATIENTS MUST WATCH AND BE AWARE!)
1) tvworldwide.com/events/fda/130207
Here is a link to the petitions and other paperwork the extremist puritanical group PROP gave the FDA:
2) citizen.org/documents/2048.pdf
The government and FDA are still accepting comments from everyone on the following issue. All pain patients should comment.
regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=FDA-2012-N-1172
Hey, Tim2.... I'm not here to argue with you or anybody else. I didn't say I refuse to believe anything! All I wrote was what I was told when I called the number at Activis'. Maybe I was connected with someone else, or someone that didn't know, I have no idea, but in any event, I just wrote what I was told. I also said WHAT I WAS TOLD BY MY INSURANCE COMPANY when I asked the question why wouldn't the generic be covered. They said, because when a generic first comes out it IS VERY CLOSE IN PRICE TO THE BRAND. That's what she said!!! People on here don't read I guess: My post already said the doctor wrote the prescription for Opana ER40 and DAW, now you turn around and ask me whether it was written for Opana or oxymorphone or Opana DAW!!! Someone else said "my doctor wrote it for Activis, I never said that!! I said I asked the pharmacy to order the generic and I showed them the material I had printed so they did! I don't lie and why tf would I lie anyway? And I'm not stupid either. I understand about what the prescription has to say to get generic! I said it was written DAW for Opana ER40 which is why I had to get the brand Opana ER40! I'm done here! I didn't come here to be called names!
Wow. You are paranoid and high strung. Nobody called you a name. You were asking questions and people answered them. Maybe you should just stick to consulting with your pharmacist if you can't handle online conversations in a mature manner. Have a nice life.
Hi Martha, Timmy2 is right, no one is calling you names. We said that who ever you spoke too doesn't know what they are talking about. That is about as closest either one of us came to calling anyone a name. I know you don't feel good. Its the pits when you are running around trying to find something that relieves your pain and you are having a hard time locating it or someone is giving you a hard time cause of the type of medicine it is etc. I know myself, I get tired of it, every month having to call round and go from pharmacy to pharmacy to find someone that has the meds or order it for me. I finally found a pharmacist that is going to have it there every month for me when it is time to fill it. All the others wanted my prescription first before they would even order it, then it would take 3 to 6 days to be delivered then I was a few days without my med. The FDA, DEA, law enforcement and groups against pain meds because of the drug addicts have made pharmacist and doctors afraid of giving their CPP pain meds. CPP have to jump through hoops to receive pain meds for their pain. Some pharmacies won't even order strong pain meds and keep them in their store because they are afraid of getting robbed.
I hope you have everything that you need to help your pain and no one gives you a hard time.
Also, Martha, you did technically lie. You claimed your pharmacist ordered Actavis generic Opana ER in size 40 mg. That is clearly not true. Furthermore, you asked how you could get your doctor to write you a script for a generic version of Opana ER as well as if anybody knew a way to get Medicare to cover it. If you already knew how to get a script for the generic from the doctor, then why did you inquire about it? So, you did lie, although probably unintentionally. Maybe you should word questions on the future in a more concise logical manner.
Ok - I just went searching for the printout I talked about that I showed the pharmacist. I'm looking at my shoes and I apologize! The company was Impax - In my defense I'm getting old and the mind isn't what it used to be. I could have sworn I clicked on Activis. Anyway, I just wanted to apologize and set the record straight. In any event I don't go back to my doctor until April 23rd at which time I will talk to her about getting a script for oxymorphone instead of brand Opana. However, she just works at the pm office and I have a feeling she has to go by the office policy which may be that they can't write prescriptions for pain meds that can be abused. We;ll see. Tim2, I apologize for being so defensive in my last post.
Hello Martha!! The Global/Impax generic oxymorphone is still tamper proof. It will gel up if wet, so it does have some abuse-proofing in it, just not as severe as Opana's reformulated version. It is still an extended release formula, so I don't think that your pm will have any problem writing out the script.
Actually, if you don't have insurance, some generics still cost almost as much as the brand name drug. Thisis true for opana and oxymorphone. Brand name opana costs around $1600 for 60 pills and the oxymorphone er costs only a few hundred dollars less unless you have insurance!!! You may only have to pay a $5 copay for generics, but your insurance company has to pay around $1300 for the generic oxymorphone er! Same thing if you have insurance for brand name meds. You may have a $120 copay, but your insurance company has to pay $1600 for the brand name opana. That is why some insurance companies won't fill new generic prescriptions. Hope this helps you understand. If you don't believe it, call your pharmacy as say you are paying cash for your generic oxymorphone er and ask how much it costs!!!
Thank you, Jamie.
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