Estratest Generic On Indefinite Back Order! (Page 4)
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Could this mean it may no longer be produced? I had a complete hysterectomy in 2000 and nothing else has worked for me! HELP!
Hi Dianne,
Congrats! I'm glad to hear that someone has received the medications they need. My wife has alleviated her situation by using Premarin and getting a testosterone injection monthly. It seems to be working as a replacement for Estratest. The latest news from the pharmacists Northern California is "We think we MAY receive some Estratest in mid-March"
To all that were interested,
I DID receive my medication yesterday. It took a lot of communicating with my GYN's nurse and canadageneric (now Choice Pharmacy) - but in the end it was all worth it.
Dianne
I received my script of EEMT 0.625/1.25 today!!! I went to canadageneric, which is now Choice Pharmacy. I had to go around my elbow to get to my a** and so did the nurse at my GYN - but it came!!! 3 month supply for $88.95 (including s/h)!!!! HALLELUJAH!
I can't read through all these threads that are off the original topic (errrrrrrrr) . I just want to feel semi normal again and would appreciate any help in locating Estratest equavelent !!!
THANK YOU DIANE. To Interlineal Peruser: For those of us who need this medication just to function normally, your wise crack trolling is cruel and not appreciated. It would be a shame if good people abandoned this forum simply because of your insensitivity. Basically, it's really none of your business. Please stop and go elsewhere for your flame wars. Thank you. Colete
Mike,
Thank you. If there is a way to let those of you who are here, in need of this medication, know personally - OUTSIDE of this forum, I will be more than happy to let you know when I get my medication from canadageneric (now known as choicepharmacy) Thanks to Interlineal Peruse - I won't publicize it here.
Interlineal Peruse....please stop with the rude behavior, it is unbecoming and useless in this forum. The people who need this medication are here to get and help others, not attack.
As a professional moderator - (if this were MY forum,) you would have been booted immediately, as your posts are rude, attacking and useless to any here who are only seeking information on how to get their needed medication. Please find a new place to TROLL.
Most sincerely,
Dianne
Hi Dianne,
I, for one, appreciate you sharing your information with us. I hope you will let us know if you get your prescription from canadageneric. The posts here have been very helpful in letting us know this is not just a local situation and sharing information about alternatives to Estratest.
Geeze! I thought I was being helpful by informing those who were also in NEED of Estratest HS what I have found out. The way this thread has moved, I'm not sure I will speak(post) here if I DO receive my medication. What I've posted so far has been what I have learned and thought others (also in need of this medication) might want to know. As I said, I was trying TO BE HELPFUL - not cause any issues. Never my intention.
Sadly, this string has turned into a game of semantics and who can post the most derogatory remarks to others. It is childish, to say the least.
I am fine with not sharing whether or not I receive my medication, if this is the kind of behavior to be expected.
Again, I was trying to be helpful to those also in need of their medication, nothing less and nothing more.
Colete, you are on both the money AND the math. Well done! Were I to simply say that I'm impressed with your acumen it'd be a gross understatement! May your pharmacist always have a plentiful supply of whatever you need, and at low co$t into the bargain. Being of the opposite gender Down Under here in OZ I don't need estratest but that doesn't mean I'm oblivious to its necessitous demand.
Given that it's long been touted as being the best medicine of all I reckon there's scant hope I'll ever wean myself off of laughter!
I don't know the entirety[or much at all really] of the FDA's rules but one rule that I think all major drug companies should have to adhere to is that when they introduce a new drug to the market then they should be compelled to ensure that the new drug's supply -- to its domestic demand at least -- remain stable and not decrease to anything even approaching a paucity whereby folk reliant on these "novel nostrums" are left hanging out to dry. It is just too easy for companies and governments to invent stories to explain away their ineptitude.
Also Colete, if you and several of your friends[not that you ever would, of course!] -- who didn't actually need[or even just want, for there is a clear distinction] the estratest for yourselves -- were to earnestly undertake a spate of pill-shopping for another friend who did want to hoard some, then she'd soon have enough to tide her over till the cows came ho_me'taphorically!
I do hope Mike never gets taken in by any sharp sneaky snake-oil salesmen who may choose to pass his way sometime when they've nothing better to do than to prey on the totally unsuspecting. I reckon some of 'em are so low that they could teach Chubby Checker to do the limbo under a snake's belly whilst he was wearing a ten gallon hat and twelve inch platforms! Did I neglect to mention back there a spell that Chubbs was meant to be riding a penny-farthing bike backwards as well... just to help flesh-out the narrative a tad? We live in hope! :o)
Depends on the definition of "hoarding". If I tell the Doctor I want to take the Full Strength of Estratest, but only take a half a pill (HS)...then I actually get a 60 day supply with the script refilled every month. In a year, that would last me six extra months. Do the math.
The very first paragraph in #19 exemplifies a prime example of a pot's calling the kettle black, in spades, when #19 then, in #19's final para says that #17 hasn't contributed anything positive. It all adds up!
It is not difficult to have a "run" on anything. All that's required is for enough folk to require whatever is sought after and enough persons willing to participate[for their own reason$] in effecting its supply. If whatever's sought after is not only already in short supply but is known -- or even just suspected to be by enough persons wanting it -- to be in short supply, then its being "run-on" will very soon acquire a solid track record of so being time and again.
I do agree with Mike when he says that "hording"[sic] would be a bit of a problem but I can assure him that "hoarding" is a "whole heap"[pun intended] easier to "gather"[pun again]! But alas, the hordes are legend for their wont of hoarding hoards unnecessarily. Perhaps they'd do everyone -- including themselves -- a much greater favour in just taking stock of that which they do_gmatize. :o)
Drug stores -- not unlike many other businesses -- do not always willingly and veritably divulge exactly what stocks they do have in hand or what they even anticipate to have in stock by any prescribed future date. They have this nasty habit of just telling the customer what they think the customer might want to hear. The average Joe would be very surprised to know exactly that which prevails -- inter alia -- within the stocking of a drug store.
Doctors [per the auspices of the U.S. Public Health Service] in the USA[and elsewhere] are on record as having done many needless and entirely unethical things with their patients. Have a look at "The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment" for but one example about what persons who purported to be doctors infamously did at that time, and they did it non-stop for 40 years! Another prime example of very suspect doctors needing to be continually kept under a watchful eye is the highly risible yet simultaneously sad and sorry situation surrounding Dr Atul Gawande's expose of many surgeons' hypocrisy with his: *Atul Gawande's "Checklist" For Surgery Success*. It was an entirely different kettle of fish when those particular surgeons were asked if they wanted Gawande's "checklist" used on them if they themselves were to go "under the knife" as a patient and not just be the person wielding the knife as per usual! These hypocrites soon changed their tune! How touching! It still has me in stitches[metaphorically, that is :o)], but suture self..err..suit y'self!
Yet another example where many doctors didn't have a clue what they were doing and were rightly exposed to their public writ large was "The Rosenhan Experiment".
Doctors and Druggists are only human and therefore not infallible. Apart from the giving of life and abiding by a duty of care towards our fellow man, the very next greatest gift that we can give each other is to challenge each other's ideas, but never "ad hominem". Just as Jack Nicholson said to Tom Cruise, in, 'A Few Good Men': "You[some folk] can't handle the truth!" Now ain't that the truth? Let it be told that some[many?] folk can only get by on a daily dose of being told that -- and only that -- which they want to hear. Otherwise, they can at times tend to be deaf as a post_er! :o)
I checked with four drug stores in two towns (one independent and three large chains) and they all said they did not have any estrified estrogen and methyltestosterone. The independent drug store, where we normally fill our prescriptions, said they did not anticipate any in-stock until mid-march, based on information from their supplier. If four drug stores in two town have none of this medication, I would say there is a shortage somewhere. And since this does not appear to be just a local situation, I would have to say the shortage is wide-spread.
As to a "run on the bank" so to speak, it would be difficult to have a "run" on a prescription controlled substance. It would take a lot of doctors suddenly deciding to needlessly issue a lot of prescriptions to a lot of women saying they needed Estratest. And "hording" would be a bit of a problem when the prescription can only be refilled once in a certain time period (once every month, three months, or six months). Estratest is not exactly in the "fun recreational" drug category.
Overall, I really do not see how response #17 has contributed anything positive to the general discussion. I believe that the information shared in the Estratest thread has been helpful to all who post here or read the posts.
In my case, the Neighborhood Market (walmart) sent me home with 7 pills and told me about the "quarantine".. Walgreens knew nothing about the "quarantine" and neither did the Private Drug Store I called...because they had plenty and seemed surprised. ALTHOUGH my new pharmacist said they would have to contact for a new script every 6 months. Making a run on it is sadly, a consequence. This entire issue has been going on for years. Obviously, the other drug stores had other suppliers :)
Thank god for this forum. We need some positive input guys :)
Jenna #1, I'm not at all surprised that you, in your very own words, "couldn't personally find any information claiming that it's no longer unavailable." If it ever was, and still is, veritably, "no longer unavailable", then that would simply mean that it IS presently available, and was possibly always so since its first becoming available.
Any allegations of unavailability of course raises -- and begs -- the question: Was it ever actually unavailable everywhere, and if so, for what substantive reason[s]? It may simply be a case of demand outstripping supply in some sectors. As with myriad products of all types on the market, many folk may be unnecessarily purchasing them causing a shortage for those folk genuinely in need of them!
By informing everyone who desperately wants and/or needs Estratest, where it can be obtained, it can cause panic purcha$ing, not unlike a "run on the bank$!"
Mike,
I am also on Cymbalta. It is approximately $200 for a months supply from the local pharmacy, or $200 for a 3 month supply from Medco. My doctor suggested I try Canada Generic and I now get my 90 day script for approximately $100!! Cymbalta is a category C drug.
When I spoke to Canada Generic yesterday, they took my order and said it would take 10 days +/-. I have rec'd my confirmation from them, so we'll see. I spoke with my GYN's nurse this morning and even she is anxious to see if I am able to get it. As soon as the package arrives, I will let you all know.
Hi Diane,
Since Methyltestosterone is now a DEA Class III controlled substance, I don't think that foreign medical providers can export it too the United States. Let us know if you are able to get your prescription from canadageneric.
Good idea. That said, I'd still keep calling every pharmacy in town. Life for anyone without the Estratest is going to go down hill fast..
I tried many hormones after having my hysterectomy in 1996. Finally, after a years worth of work, my internist said I was having Estrogen overdose and put me on Estratest HS. It has been a life saver. Now I cannot get it from Medco, nor any of the local pharmacies (big or small.) I even spoke with a local compounding pharmacy and they said they do not have the methyltestosterone to make a compound version.
Then I remembered, I am able to get another one of my medications from canadageneric. I just spoke to them on the phone and they have plenty of Estratest HS and are going to get in touch with my Doctor for the script. A 90 day fill will cost $88, plus s/h. It takes a while to get meds from Canada, but the prices and the medications are the same - just packaged differently.
I hope this helps some of you and I pray my GYN gets the order done for me quickly.
Amneal is the same manufacturer as Interpharm (they purchased Interpharm several years ago and still use the same manufacturing facility. So it's strange that it stopped working for you. Should have been the same pill. The good news is that I've heard it will be back to regular inventory soon.
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