Doriden/glutethimide Availability (Page 5)
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Does anyone know where one could obtain glutethimide or it's brand name Doriden (CIBA Company)? Am in Canada where Doriden was discontinued in late 1980s and I was told Doriden discontinue was international. Perhaps there is now a generic form containing glutethimide available now as I would assume CIBA trademark rights would have by now expired. As the benzodiazapine replacement meds for Doriden are more addictive and dangerous (especially if mixing with alcohol & other drugs) it sure would be great to be able to go back to Doriden or glutethimide which were more effective and safer. A shame that the public was switched over to benzodiazipines (i.e. lorazapam, diazapam) when a better/safer product was available all in the name of profits and economics. Any help out there is most appreciated.

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Re: Fred (# 50) Expand Referenced Message

Yes I've seen their other offerings, which includes some schedule 1 substances, and I think you are right. There are a lot of online places advertising Secobarbital that I've seen lately in my searching for Glutethimide.

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Joseph (# 48) --

After further investigation into online source we've discussed, i would say its a scam. If you browse some of their other products offered you'll know its not legit. Highly illegal substances are listed. As much as i want it to be true, there is no way I'd get involved with this company. So the search continues.

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Joseph (# 48) --

I wouldn't know how to go about doing that. In fact i wrote a message to you yesterday that still hasn't posted yet.

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Re: Fred (# 42) Expand Referenced Message

Can you please see if the moderator will give you my contact info.

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Re: Joseph (# 44) Expand Referenced Message

Ok then they are bootleg. Now the question is are they made correctly? I know there was bootleg going around in mid to late 90's that were crap so is it worth risking $200 and that there is nothing harmful in them. If they are still being legitimately manufactured in India as the other guy is saying, I wonder if a US pharmacy can order them if one could get a legit script?

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Re: fred (# 37) Expand Referenced Message

Oh yes, they made you talk a mile a minute, to everyone and anyone!

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Re: Fred (# 42) Expand Referenced Message

Codeine with aspirin or acetaminophen is relatively easy to get a hold of.

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Re: Joseph (# 44) Expand Referenced Message

I'm sorry, a sample order to them is 10 tablets at 20.00 dollars each.

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Re: Fred (# 42) Expand Referenced Message

They claim to have a tablet press machine and use the USV imprint on them because they are well known. A sample order to them is twenty tablets at 20 dollars each. They refuse to send even a one tablet sample, I explained that it would be worth it to them if they were legit they would gain many more customers.

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Re: Myself (# 41) Expand Referenced Message

That would be a good idea, I would appreciate it greatly. Finding it is only the first step however.

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Re: Joseph (# 39) Expand Referenced Message

If they have usv 354 THEN THEY ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE BOOTLEG, OR VERY OLD. IF THEY'LL DO 5 I WOULD PROBABLY TAKE THE PLUNGE. You'll still need to get the other half though. Although when I got them from a Romanian Pharmacy I paid like $65 for 30 - 250mg.

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Re: Joseph (# 36) Expand Referenced Message

Is there any problem with calling pharmacies in Ukraine, Belarus, Moldavia, Russia, etc. and simply ask about Glutethimide? For me it's no problem. Just simply ask. And I certainly know in India that Glutethimide is available. I know there's about 12 countries in the world where Glutethimide is not banned.

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Re: fred (# 33) Expand Referenced Message

Dear Friend, I'm from Slovakia in Central Europe and I can search for noxyron in my area. I live near Hungary and Romania border and i can easily find out if the glutethimide is still available in this country because Slovakian prescription is legal in every country which is in the European Union. Only question is which country in Europe has Glutethimide still available. Hungary? Romania? Moldavia? Bulgary? I hope they have to be still available.

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Re: fred (# 37) Expand Referenced Message

Yes, it's quite similar as a matter of fact. Do you think they're legit? They adamantly insist that they are.

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Re: Joseph (# 36) Expand Referenced Message

I think we're talking about the same company if it has a name similar to mine

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Re: Joseph (# 36) Expand Referenced Message

That is an awful big risk with your funds if you had to get 30 and don't think I would do it. If they'll do 5 I'd probably take the risk though. I do believe it was Terapia that made them. Definitely not USV. Will they send you a picture? The photo I've seen was a stock photo and I think its the same place you're referring to. There are a few chemical companies in China but looks like you'd have to buy a 50 gal drum of it... Imagine that... I'd be dead in a matter of weeks...lol, but smiling all the way... Talking to anybody that would listen (we used to call it ciba talking).

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Re: fred (# 35) Expand Referenced Message

Small world. Where the ones you were getting from Bulgaria made by Terapia Pharma? They were actually a Romanian pharma company not Hungarian as I stated previously. This company online insists that they are not bogus, but they are asking 20.00 per tab, min order 30 tablets. What do you think? You probably seen their site online if you search for Glutethimide. I am going to ask if they can send a 5 tablet sample. I have to reunite with my beloved Glutethimide and Codeine at least one more time in my life as I'm a bit over 50 right now.

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Re: Joseph (# 34) Expand Referenced Message

I'm in Essex as well. I too was on MMT for 3 years due to Oxy's but have been off the program and still clean for 4 years now. I'm saving myself for one day when a miracle happens or perhaps when I get so old that it won't matter anymore.

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Re: fred (# 33) Expand Referenced Message

Yeah Fred, I wish that there was a way that we can get in touch, I'm in Essex county BTW. I am not ordering from that vendor who supposedly has Glutethimide tablets, won't even send one tablet sample so I can test it plus it is very expensive, if I knew it was genuine it would probably be worth it though. I have some gypsy friends who have family in Hungary but it was discontinued in '06 when Terapia Pharma of Hungary was sold to Ranbaxy of India and they dropped all of their low selling meds and Glutethimide was one of them. Unfortunately I did take the H train when they were discontinued in the US and have been on MMT over 20 years now. I am clean however.

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Re: Joseph (# 32) Expand Referenced Message

I'd definitely be interested in knowing how you make out with that if you decide to take the plunge. I've been searching under Glutethimid which is the way its spelled in Romania and eastern Europe, thinking I may have more luck that way but unfortunately many sites are not in English and I'm not sure the translation filter is capable for a good portion of the sites that come up. Plus I don;'t have a whole lot of time to devote to searching. I do what I can, when I can. It would be very funny if it turns out we knew each other back in the day. The Jersey "hits" crowd was small and many of my old friends died of OD when they switched to H after the demise of Glutethimide. Not a lot of us left. I'm happy I never went that route. I was always squeamish of taking anything that wasn't produced in a legit pharmaceutical company. good luck.

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