Dilaudid And Subutex (Page 2) (Top voted first)

I had a knee surgery yesterday. I have been using subutex to help me taper narcotics. I stopped the subutex 2 weeks before surgery. My doctor prescribed both percocet and oxycontin. I am getting no pain relief. The iv Dilaudid worked in the hospital. Has anyone taken Dilaudid by pill at home?

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after 4yrs on oxycotin 6 80 mg aday plus 30 mg oxycodone the effects were being affected by higher tolerance. the dr took me off and put me on subutex 8 mg and i am stlll habing depression and chills runny nose diareaha and weakness in legs due to neuropathy and now they have found thru mri crushed discs inlower back and want to try anerve block. i am fine with this, also stage three HIV .my question is , 8mg enough to compensate for all the 4 yrs of oxy? i feel better with the morning dose of 8mg of sub plus adderal bit it doesent last long enough i am afraid to leave the house late afternoon cant even walk my dog would an omcrease help this problem?

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I would doubt that would be enough to compete with the meds taken in the past. I used only oxycodone at HIGH doses and it really took minimum16 mgs to feel better. The first couple days can be rough but once your body adjusts, it will feel so much better. I don't know what it will do for your pain, as i find it doesn't do much for mine, but it did get rid of having to take a gazillion pills a day. It does help, but give it sometime. Let us know how you are doing now, it's been a bit since your post. I didn"t see any replys but wanted to let you know my experience. The one problem with subutex or suboxone is if you are in chronic pain, they will BOTH block narcotics from giving you relief of your pain.It's the buprenorphine that holds so tight to your mu receptors it's hard to get them to let go and allow other narcotics in. You'd need to be weened off or given HIGH amounts of meds. I heard diluadid works the bes ..I don't know that though, I just read it. I wish you the best.

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Agreed to a point but you also must realise that different people feel different levels and tolerences and what not.Perfect instance would be when me and a pal were on tour in my youth.We got all shot up in the same type areas because a scout did not see a wire and stupidly walked Over it.SO we had bullet ridden knees ME worse then him.He was poping the morphine cap screaming and could not inject himself the pain was so bad. I was in horrible pain but held my head together to go stick him till the corman got there to help.I did NOT stick myself but delt with it and went to prone position after the AK47 trap quit fireing at us(went empty) to clear the area. I was shot up in the same areas as him but worse but his NATURAL pain tolerances were lower.NEITHER of us took any drugs nor ever drank or anything.We were clean whole lives.I saw his pain and he could not take it like we were trained to and keep quiet.He could not. Sorry I think your WRONG different people have different natural tolerences I have seen it.

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I have taken Subutex for years as well for pain management and have had great success. Recently I had surgery and stopped my Subutex doses 4days previous to surgery and had no problems with the anestesia or pain meds. Once done, after such high quantities of dilaudid, I feared returning to my previous meds. Well, each person is different, but 12hours into some withdrawl, it worked fine, as I feared a new addiction to dilaudid. With the pain still high, I simply increased my Subutex and it is working fine. I once found it stopped working and I simply stopped my dose for 3days and the Subutex would work far better as it has a half-life of it is 3days. Happy healing ya'll.

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Ive been on Subutex for 7 years and have had an operation recently they could give me nothing for the pain . Subutex is a great drug but if you like me need medication for pain it is difficult. I'm on 24mg a day

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Yes I'd u go down a couple posts under urs I'll see wat I said about it... But lemme also just add I was on suboxone and after my knee surgery on iv dilaudid then was first put on OxyContin and oxycodone after that and not only was I in pain I went thru withdrawal but the second they switched me to dilaudid in pill form it was great! They helped way better! I now am on my syboxone again I only stayed in the dilaudid for two weeks but they worked wonders!

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I take Subutex daily - 8 mgs and I take Dilaudid also, 8 mgs. I get very good pain relief from post cancer. The Subutex is very good for me because I do not wish to get high though sometimes it oddly enough does happen. If you take the Dilaudid without the Subutex - in my experince, it is ok to take the Subutex about 16 hours after and you should not have any precipitated withdrawel - or so has been my experience. Hope this helps - just have to be careful as both are serious respiratory depressants and someone should be with you while you are takin ghtem and sleeping just to be on the safe side. Best of luck.

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I had a breast biopsy; which is very painful and my doctor gave me four Dilaudid 4mg tablets. I was very afraid and sketchy because I have been on Subutex 4mg now for close to 3 years but I didn't want to experience any pain. I usually take my morning dose around 10am and my afternoon dose around 5pm. Well, my biopsy was Thursday. So, Wednesday, I took my morning dose and then took my afternoon dose at 4pm. Thursday morning, I didn't take my morning dose and took my first Dilaudid 4mg around 1pm. I didn't feel a thing. My biopsy was scheduled for 3pm. At 2:30, I was so scared that I took another one (thus being 8mg of Dilaudid). NOT A THING! I went home and when the numbing sensation wore off, my breast was hurting pretty bad. At 6pm, I took another 4mg Dilaudid. I felt nothing. ever. I hurt all night long. My mistake was trying to switch to Dilaudid for that one day for pain management when I should have just increased my Subutex dose for that day. I am sharing this to help others. Now, my next problem was... when do I start my Subutex back without having precipitated withdrawal. I read online to begin it back 12-24 hours after taking your last opiate. So, my last Dilaudid 4mg was at 6pm. I waited 18 hours and took a small (half of a quarter piece) of Subutex at noon the next day and felt fine and back to normal! So... if you are having a procedure, it must take days.. I mean days.. for the Subutex to leave your system. Dilaudid is a very powerful drug and I just knew it would help my pain but it didn't. My Subutext binded so tightly to my brain receptors that it blocked the Dilaudid right out. So... to help others... ask your doctor to increase your Subutex/Suboxone dose the day of a procedure and do not try to go for an alternate of pain management!! I learned that Subutex/Suboxone truly does its job, even if you space out 24 hours taking an opiate!!

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That's messed up bro. I'm on 20mg of subutex.. Not what I wanted to hear at all. I have to get off of this stuff.

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Nothing depending on how much subutex u take a day nothing will help unless u stop subutex. Im trying to quite pills and sometimes i feel great and other i feel like im gonna die. be careful.

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They wont stop taking subs for at keast a day and then u will feel it

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I have took subs for over a year I have took a stripe and later in the day iv 8mg I'd Dilaudid and you want get the feeling but it will stop the pain I've done it a bunch and ain't never got sick but some say the do but I dont

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Try kratom please. It saved my life.

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I was IV'ing 24 to 32mg of dilaudid daily for 2 yrs. Decided i was done with drugs and got on subutex 8mg. First day took to tablets, second day took one and another one tablet the third day. Had no wwithdrawal and didnt need to take it anymore. Only took me 3 days to beat the habbit and that after multiple times tryin cold turkey. Would not advise the cold turkey method but subutex is a amazing drug and saved my life from either death or jail. Anyone can beat this addictionand rremember if you feel like using go to NA meetings or talk to someone. Your not alone and stay strong!!!

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I am a subutex patient and had emergency surgery 5 days ago. I was given 4mg Dilaudid every 4 hours post surgery. It didn't provide any relief until my 3rd day taking it. I just took my last Dilaudid. When should I start back on the subutex?

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Don't you think a doctor would be your best option just be honest with them

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I recently had major abdominal surgery and I was not told to stop taking my subutex before surgery. The Dr wrote me a prescription for 50 Dilaudid 4mg to take home. I was in the worst pain in my life in the recovery room after surgery because the pain meds couldn't break through. I had to take many Dilaudid daily and didn't receive much relief at all. After one week I started back on my subutex and felt WONDERFUL!!!! Wish I had started it sooner. I took the Dilaudid right up to the time I started back on the subutex and had no problems whatsoever!!! I would suggest to anyone in this situation to take high doses of Dilaudid as OxyContin simply doesn't work as well.

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So, if someone takes subutex they should never have surgery again? Are you delusional? I'm on subutex and have been for a year now and guess what? I'm on my 26th day in the hospital have had 5 surgeries to save my life now and I'm still taking my subutex. When I can and the pain is bearable (meaning I can actually get out of bed and walk to the bathroom on my own) I take the subutex instead of the pain meds (dilaudid) that they offer. I Googled this to see if anyone else thought the subutex was giving more relief than the pain meds. I see now that I am not the only one that feels this way, but, of course, I also had to see this idiotic comment from a selfish user. And yes, you're still a user if your thinking this selfishly. Your comment was uneducated and selfish, people will still need surgeries whether they take subutex or not. Subutex doesn't make you invincible...

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Please be very careful with Kratom.....it is great and natural but also as addicting as any other opiate. Honest!#

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I tried kratom and it never worked. I got it online.

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