Dilaudid And Subutex (Page 4)
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I had a knee surgery yesterday. I have been using subutex to help me taper narcotics. I stopped the subutex 2 weeks before surgery. My doctor prescribed both percocet and oxycontin. I am getting no pain relief. The iv Dilaudid worked in the hospital. Has anyone taken Dilaudid by pill at home?

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Yes I'd u go down a couple posts under urs I'll see wat I said about it... But lemme also just add I was on suboxone and after my knee surgery on iv dilaudid then was first put on OxyContin and oxycodone after that and not only was I in pain I went thru withdrawal but the second they switched me to dilaudid in pill form it was great! They helped way better! I now am on my syboxone again I only stayed in the dilaudid for two weeks but they worked wonders!

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I have had 3 back surgeries in 3 years. (two lumbar which is now completely fused, and a double fission on my cervical). I have been on 8-12mg of dilaudid for almost 3 years now and have had no side effects. Don't get me wrong, I want to come off if it as soon as possible, but since my last surgery was only in may, my Dr doesn't think its long enough for the pain I'm going to feel. He wants to wean me down to a drug called Norco which I was on after Mt 7th and 8th knee surgeries.

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Yes I just had surgery for a shattered knee and broken pelvis in two spots I was on suboxone before it happened and dilaudid worked better than anything else I got it IV and after in pill form which I was sent home with. I think it works great it's just that they don't send u home with enough to last till u see the doc so now I may have to go back on my subs till I hear from them which sux bc of the pain but yes it worked wonders for me.

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Ive been on Subutex for 7 years and have had an operation recently they could give me nothing for the pain . Subutex is a great drug but if you like me need medication for pain it is difficult. I'm on 24mg a day

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I had to go under anesthisia awhile ago for a colonoscopy i was also on subutrx, i stoped faking it 2 days before i went under, it sounds like hell but subutex has a half life i reallu didnt go through withdraels, i just WANTED it. But just make sure to tell ur doc AND anesthetic doctor that u do subutex, that way they kbow, thdy give u a stronger doae. I was knocked out so cold they culd hardly wake me up! No worrys, just be open witg ur docters, its private i am younger n didnt want my mother who was there with me to know, and so they asked her to step outside n stuff when talkin bout personal stuff, she had no idea just thought it was procedure.

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MY DR PRESCRIBED EXALGO(HYDROMORPHONE) 16 MG AND PERCOSET FOR BREAKTHROUGH PAIN-10/325 --2, 3 TIMES A DAY.
THESE MEDS TAKE THE EDGE OFF BUT, BY NO MEANS MAKES THE PAIN DISAPPEAR. I DON'T THINK THERE IS SUCH A DRUG.

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I've been in dauladid almost a yr. after my accident when I almost lost my right leg fr. The knee down,I had seven fractures fr. Knee to ankle And THen. The. Muscles & tendents were all moved from the outside of my calf to front of. My lower leg.From under my knee to a few inches above my ankle,the big problem is its my driving leg.I was on fentenyl taffy,THAT. Worked great but because the only test done were cancer patients after being controlled the taffys for 5 yrs ,my insurance Co.decides to stop my taffys THAT I can control &put me a pill THAT I had. To stop &take a pill &wait for it to work! !befor Horan taffy all I had to do was open & rub in my cheek.NOT RIGHT AFTER 5 YRS OF EASY PAIN CONTROL NOW I HAVE TO FIND A DRINK,TAKE A PILL & WAIT! !NOT RIGHT AFTER 5 YRS.OF PAINCONTROL

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I have taken Subutex for years as well for pain management and have had great success. Recently I had surgery and stopped my Subutex doses 4days previous to surgery and had no problems with the anestesia or pain meds. Once done, after such high quantities of dilaudid, I feared returning to my previous meds. Well, each person is different, but 12hours into some withdrawl, it worked fine, as I feared a new addiction to dilaudid. With the pain still high, I simply increased my Subutex and it is working fine. I once found it stopped working and I simply stopped my dose for 3days and the Subutex would work far better as it has a half-life of it is 3days. Happy healing ya'll.

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Can I take dilaudid then a couple hours later take Subutex? Will it put me in w/d? I take 2 8mg of dilaudid 5 times a day. I am prescribed that and want to stop so can I take subutex right away?

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Are you serious? Is that what pain meds do? Mask it you say? Hmmmm.....

Holier than thou crap! Good for absolutely nothing, just like your post.

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I agree. I have been on Methadone for 6 yrs now and I'm @ 160 Mgs and it's working perfect for me. Been @ 160 for over a year and a half. Broke my back in 4 places. My back is destroyed and will need surgery @ some point. Also found out I have degenerative disc disease. Horrible, horrible, God awful pain at times. This is not perfect but the other opioids were killing me. Destroying my life. This is the best I can hope for, however, it could be so much worse.

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Agreed to a point but you also must realise that different people feel different levels and tolerences and what not.Perfect instance would be when me and a pal were on tour in my youth.We got all shot up in the same type areas because a scout did not see a wire and stupidly walked Over it.SO we had bullet ridden knees ME worse then him.He was poping the morphine cap screaming and could not inject himself the pain was so bad. I was in horrible pain but held my head together to go stick him till the corman got there to help.I did NOT stick myself but delt with it and went to prone position after the AK47 trap quit fireing at us(went empty) to clear the area. I was shot up in the same areas as him but worse but his NATURAL pain tolerances were lower.NEITHER of us took any drugs nor ever drank or anything.We were clean whole lives.I saw his pain and he could not take it like we were trained to and keep quiet.He could not. Sorry I think your WRONG different people have different natural tolerences I have seen it.

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Will anyone ever learn the simple difference between "milligrams= mg" and "micrograms=mcg" (usually a 'µ' on computer bc not even computers are nerdy enough for science, but we adapt. So people, hope this helps.

MICRO = 1x10^-6 = 10^-6 = 0.000006 = small (ten times ten to the negative sixth power!) holy hell. small number, but there are number milllions and millions more small!

That's my rant about decimals, fentanyl is given in micrograms cuz it's stronger than everything else. 75mg/hr, would in fact, make you puke more than age 21 and the night you turned it. Just sayin jo. Peace out I am jealous of u all Plllllease throw me a bone and maybe we can be pen pells???? I tell stories about all my goodies and i'm honest and easy to work with. And I am 9999% more normal than that.

Bye All tty soon, feel BETTer!

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I have been taking hydromorphone 4 mg to relieve back pain due to degenerative disc disease. I am awaiting a call back from my doctor, but I'm impatient....do you need to taper off/stop taking pain meds prior to surgery? If so, how many days, hours?

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I guess you are not on Buprenorphine then are you? If you were you'd understand the concern. THey should switch to a short acting opiod instead, Bup INHIBITS any pain med by attaching to your mu receptors and doesn't let any other pain med attach, hence no pain relief...Reap what you sew? not a nice think to say to people you don't know.

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I feel sorry for all you guys going through this, but why? I have had surgery while on my normal pain meds, the docs were able to up them during recovery and lower after. Not all of you, but some sound like you are reaping what you sowed, abuse pain pills for fun and when you REALLY need them you have these sorts of problems. I have been on a Fentynal 75mg for 3 years, switch from Narco to Percs for break through pain. When they did my lung surgery they left the patch on and added Fentynal by I.V. to get thorough the worst of pain. My doc never said I had to come off my pain killers for this very serious surgery, was in hospital for a week. Am I ever out of pain, no, but no one is, the pain meds just mask it.

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yes they do i been on them for a min now and they work just like the iv but it takes longer to feel it

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I would doubt that would be enough to compete with the meds taken in the past. I used only oxycodone at HIGH doses and it really took minimum16 mgs to feel better. The first couple days can be rough but once your body adjusts, it will feel so much better. I don't know what it will do for your pain, as i find it doesn't do much for mine, but it did get rid of having to take a gazillion pills a day. It does help, but give it sometime. Let us know how you are doing now, it's been a bit since your post. I didn"t see any replys but wanted to let you know my experience. The one problem with subutex or suboxone is if you are in chronic pain, they will BOTH block narcotics from giving you relief of your pain.It's the buprenorphine that holds so tight to your mu receptors it's hard to get them to let go and allow other narcotics in. You'd need to be weened off or given HIGH amounts of meds. I heard diluadid works the bes ..I don't know that though, I just read it. I wish you the best.

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I take subutex.ALL the surgeons, anesthesiologist know and I have brought all the dr.'s involved in this. The anesthesiologist said to take it 24mgs a day until the day before surgery?? I KNOW this is incorrect. I becan weening knowing I only have a short time to do this. I took 8mgs for about a week, felt ok, today 4mgs, then tomorrow plan on 4mgs and stop. Surgery is MONDAY! I am going to sleep as it is major surgery. I have meds to help with withdrawl. But NONE of these dr.'s seem concerned. EVEN the Anesthesiologist. I KNOW it's the bup that blocks the pain meds from working. That's why I am weening myself. If I take no subs fri, sat, sun and mon afternoon is surgery, I should be able to be relieved of my pain post operativley, I would think. I have been as high as 24mgs but not for some time. This drop is easy now since it stays in your system so long.
Also, I know I'll be in Withdrawl by Monday. I have percs to take ativan, valium and clonodine. I should be able to get thru this. Just wondering if anyone has any advice...Should I not take any subs tomorrow? Or will I be too far into withdrawl to go in for the operation? PLEASE ANY advice would be appreciated.

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after 4yrs on oxycotin 6 80 mg aday plus 30 mg oxycodone the effects were being affected by higher tolerance. the dr took me off and put me on subutex 8 mg and i am stlll habing depression and chills runny nose diareaha and weakness in legs due to neuropathy and now they have found thru mri crushed discs inlower back and want to try anerve block. i am fine with this, also stage three HIV .my question is , 8mg enough to compensate for all the 4 yrs of oxy? i feel better with the morning dose of 8mg of sub plus adderal bit it doesent last long enough i am afraid to leave the house late afternoon cant even walk my dog would an omcrease help this problem?

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