Did My Generic Adderall Cause Me To Test False Positive For Methamphetamine? (Page 2) (Top voted first)

I take d-amphetamine salt combos 20mg twice daily, and I recently had a hair drug test for pre-employment purposes. I tested positive for methamphetamine at a level of 570ng/mg, but I have never touched meth! They already did the GC/MS, and are now doing an isomer test, but they say that my adderall could NOT have cause a positive meth result! I've seen in other responses that this is possible, however I can't find any documentation to prove this. I've read over the Adderall and methamphetamine information profiles on this site, but still don't have the proof I need. Does anyone know where I can find this documentation? Please help!

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I need an Md to help with this. Never had any drug use/abuse issues. Take current med prescribed but never abused, if anything I don't take as often/as much as I'm prescribed. Not much drug test exp so this is new. I need specific practical advice re the wildly conflicting reports I'm getting re: all neg in urine-then HFollicle test ok. Then abt 60 days later, urine test negative then levels that imply/prove abuse. Wouldn't that overlap the prev test and how can urine be negative & HF be over limits. I know what I put in my body, didn't need a test,happily comply at a moments notice but now I need an indepedant/true advice re these tests. I offered my fingernails for a 1 yr test, even a spinal tap (mom's RN of 40yrs)They declined, spinal tap too evasive. I agree but inaccurate/manufactured results are worse. If you would please help with some advice/direction.

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Adderal will show up as AMphetamine, but not methamphetamines.

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First off if the doctor/doctors office "puts that on your file for every other doctor to see" you can sue them... I was going to a doctor for years getting 30mg oxycodone and 2mg xanax.... They did a ua which I had fake pee for then they decided to do a mouth swab... the results came back positive for methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and molly... the doctors office said they would not be able to treat me any longer... I called the government and there is a thing called the hippa law.... look it up and sue the s*** out of the doctor that did that to you...

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yes it will i take amphetamine salt and it always comes up positive . That is normal

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No reason for the prescriber not to (with your premising to disclose) his diagnosis, (good to mention that pt,. wasn't responsive to dextraoamphetamine or Ritalin, etc.) and date the initially prescribed Adderall IR 30mg. It's a known fact that SANDOZ (via EON, which Sandoz owns) generic Adderall 30mg IR has been proven to produce false positives for methamphetamine HCl. If your doc isn't a Dr. Feelgood and the indications are legit, he'll have no problem writing this. I have a few times and got a voicemail or two to VERIFY I wrote and signed the letter.

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I take 30 mg amphetamine salts twice daily. My drug test showed positive for amphetamine AND methamphetamine. My prescription was all I needed to show to clear up the matter.

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You're taking 20mg of d- and dl-AMPHET COMBO SALTS. D-amphetamine was originally known as Dexedrine and dl-amphetamine as BENZEDRINE. Address is a combination of the two salts. It seems that the dl-amphetamnes causes the pos methamphetamine results...we think.

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Excellent site. Sure, we could all go to the PDR, but if you're a careful researcher, it could take hours.

SANDOZ's Adderall 30mg IR has been known to show positive for methamphetamine. It's happened to one or two of my pts.

Inscription is EOE. Made by EON, which Sandoz had purchased a while back.

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Sandoz [a venerable drug company that developed d-LSD-25 and trademarked it DELYSID-25 and gave us the first drugs that were effective against migraine and tension headache (DHE, CAFERGOT, CAFERGOT-B, FIORINAL #3, SANEST, close relative to) owns EON, company that makes ADDERALL 30mg IR. The pill is married EON 303. It's notorious for causing false positives for methamaphetamine. Oddly enough this seems to be the only strength of AdderalI IR manufactured by EON that has this effect. I don't know if ADDERALL-XL 30h test pos for meth, bt. We shrinks knew about this for a while btw, but only if our patients were drug-tested.

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Adderall is a mixture of d- and dl- isomers. Period. And I'll sign my PhD in Pharmacology behind that and you won't find a lab tech with those creds! The is,res are of, course of AMPHETAMINE.

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This person is in a serious incredibly stressful situation here. So there's no reason for you to be a d*** about it to them! Saying, "you're screwed" and "say goodbye to that job". Plus on a cheap office test many things can go wrong.

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And the Eon Lab's (owned by Sandoz, a very reputable and established pharm manufacturer) 30mg IR tab very often tests positive for methamphetamine. I'm not sure about the XR. Besides. I'm betting these drug tests are U/A only and the lowest bidder got the sale. You have other alternatives, Don't let the bastards get to you. I'm an MD qwth a PhD in Pharmacology. I know my s**t. I'd never accept a bottom of the heap cheap commercial "drug test" as proof or not proof of anything. Good luck, bro! First, you ask for a redo and that can be on the original s***ty text and if you get a pos, have your union rep insist on a generally accepted as PASSABLE drug test. More money; some blood, but this will clear it up. Methamphetamine has a short half-life, relatively speaking.. IF YOU WERE DOING methamphetamine, YOU'D STOP FASTER THAN FAST & ASK FOR A DO OVER. If you're taking your Adderall daily (and the 30mg IR tab is given BID or TID; I've never written for more), you'll get a positive. There's plenty of research on this. Google Scholar is a good place, but medical research is a pain in the ass, even for me, However, more expensive drug tests can calcify the issue once and for all.

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You don't get immunity from working under the influence of street drugs under HIPPA. You have some skewed notion of the confidentiality provided by this law. Is I had hired neurosurgeon and we had to do an all-out tox screen because of some false positive along the way. If the screen showed bootleg meth, non-prescribe opiates and tons of benzes, I'd be violating the law hiring this guy to join our surgical staff— and no Court would void our decision to withdraw the job offer on the grounds of HIPPA. I don't know where you get your legal information, but my kid sister is Admitted to Practice Before the Supreme Court as well as every other Court down the line. If you don't mine, Id take her $800/hour advice over that of your Public Defender.

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The same thing just happened to me!! Did u ever find any factual documentation since your post was March? Im looking now and will let u know if i find anything!

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I failed a drug test for methamphetamine while taking my Adderall. They sent it off to the lab and it come back as amphetamines.

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I also had a false positive test for meth. I am a retired cop and honest as the day is long. I pleaded with them to do a confirmation test but they said it had been to long of a time frame, 2 weeks, for it to make a difference. Now on the report from the lab, it did differinciate between the adderall and the meth. But it stated that the positive could be an illicit drug OR, certain nasal decongestion sprays. I have been using one for years, and the rest they gave me that day was a saliva test. They wwouldn't even consider that might be the cause. It took me almost a year to find a new pain Dr. But I did, and actually that first Dr did me a favor cause my new Dr is just incredible.

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I second this response, I'm a RN and former Navy Medic who suffered a TBI during thee war. I've been taking Adderall XR for about 7yrs now.

I was assigned a new PC and he did his initial tox screen, got a letter a few days later saying I'd tested positive for Methamphetamine, and he could help me in my recovery etc.... I blew his phone up he wouldn't return my calls, I needed this headed off ASAP because if it makes it into my record it would adversely affect my future medical treatments and my career. 2 weeks went by and nothing was able to get an emergency type appointment w/ him.

Don't do drugs, drink, smoke etc... So I did my homework prior to going to my PC and found that methamphetamine breaks down into amphetamine and a lab should be able to do an additional test to determine between the 2, here's a blurb below:

"Methamphetamine actually breaks down and metabolizes into amphetamine. There are many other drugs in methamphetamine and a wide range of chemicals that can make this drug extremely potent and dangerous to use. Because of the way that methamphetamine breaks down into amphetamine, drug tests which show a presence of amphetamine are often considered a positive indication of methamphetamine use."

Now when I finally got to my PC he came in the office saying he was surprised I wasn't screaming etc etc. I told him that wouldn't get me anywhere but I think I knew where things went wrong lab wise, he stopped me, said he called the lab and they verified the Adderall. It's more a procedural issue most places see the amphetamine and they just stop there vs doing the extra step, I guess because those having it in their system are more likely to be taking methamphetamine vs having an RX for amphetamine?? I tried for answers as to why this wasn't automatically done in labs and was stone walled.

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Generally, we've found that ADDERALL 30mg IR - SANDOZ (generic) - tests positive for meth. If that's the Adderall a pt is taking, the issue quietly disappears.

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In conclusion from my original post, I really want doctors and labs to stand up and take notice. (I realize that most people will try to say they are the victims of a false positive, but I am speaking for those of us who are are honest, have integrity, and a spotless medical record). Now, at the time I tested positive for methamphetamine, I was being tested at 2 different Dr's offices every month for the past 4 years, so how STUPID would I have been to start using after all this time. Also, I had just had a pain pump implanted by the same Dr that dropped me 2 weeks later. This Dr refused to talk to me, and his staff said to me, "methamphetamine is methamphetamine", after they had just handed me the lab report, (BTW, that took me a month to get out of them) that absolutely refuted that ignorant (ignorant is not stupid, it's simply un-knowing) statement. It stated, "The positive results could be EITHER an illicit drug OR certain OTC nasal sprays". I had been using an OTC spray for years, and I used it just before them giving me a saliva test. I think common sense tells us that the spray running down the back of the throat would be all over that saliva test strip. I went thru almost a year of HELL trying to find a pain management Dr that would accept me. They turned me down due to either my positive test or they wouldn't manage a pain pump implanted by another Dr. Basically I was BLACKLISTED. As an aside, they also failed to advise me that the medicine (morphine sulfate) in my pain pump MUST be drained and refilled at least every 6 months. I went almost a year and my pump was within DAYS of going dry!! Plus, what was in it was very unstable and dangerous to my system, and could have caused severe withdrawal symptoms.

DOCTORS, PLEASE, PLEASE!! Realize that you are not perfect, but that patient is placing their life in your hands, and you need to be SURE that you are doing what is best for THEM. If a patient tests positive for a non-prescribed drug or an illicit drug for the first time, give them the respect you expect to be afforded to you, and give them the chance to at least explain the test, take another test, etc. I think it has been shown, at least in an anecdotal sense, that no lab test for drugs is considered 100% infallible. My lab report, previously mentioned, proves this.

Patients: If you are completely innocent, push your Dr for a second chance, perhaps volunteering to be tested randomly as many times a month as is necessary. Or volunteer for a more accurate test such as a hair follicle test, at your expense. (that's better than being dropped and being blacklisted in the medical community.)

I worked for a very large law enf. agency, and their policy for a first time positive test was an immediate confirmation test and mandatory counseling. I am now asking any doctor or lab tech trolling this site that may have additional info on this please respond. There are countless folks out there needlessly suffering because a Dr was either jaded toward pain patients and did not heed their pleadings of innocence, or he feared sanctions by the DEA, or the lab simply made a mistake.

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What do you mean that it quietly disappears? It hasn't disappeared because I am facing a probationary revocation. What can I do ? The lab tells me they do not perform isomer tests, a local lab that DOES perform them does not conduct tests on samples from other labs.

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