Did They Stop Making The Roxane 54 411 Buprenorphine? (Top voted first)

I have been getting the generic Subutex Roxane brand 54 411 Buprenorphine tablets for months now from Walmart pharmacy and the past two times I've gotten my prescription filled there, I was given a different generic made by Hi Tech with an 8 and an arrow. I asked them why the change because those little tablets just are not the same and they said the Roxane ones could not be ordered. I called around to other pharmacies I have gotten my prescription filled at before also and was also told that the Mylan M 924s can no longer be ordered either. What's going on with the Roxane and Mylan Buprenorphine tablets? Did they stop making them or is there some kind of shortage? I had the choice of getting the small Hi Tech tablets which seem alot less potent than the Roxane or the Actavis 153 half moon orange tablets which I cannot stand at all. Has anyone else had a problem getting the Roxanes or the Mylans or know for sure what's happening? I did see that Roxane merged with West Ward but don't know if that has anything to do with it or when the merge occurred and the 54 411 tablets are still listed on the West Ward site as a medication they manufacturer. I've heard everything from they are not making either of the brands anymore to there is just a temporary shortage of the brands.

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I wish I knew. I am scared not to get my 54 411 buprenorphine.

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A few people I know have been able to get the Roxane 54 411s so apparently they were on backorder or something. I did check the West Ward site (company Roxane merged with) and it appears they are still making the 54 411 Buprenorphine.

Also, I found the Mylan site regarding the Mylan M 924 brand Buprenorphine tablets and I did shoot them an email regarding why the M 924 tablets weren't available and they did respond to me in less than 24 hours via a phone call and left a voicemail stating that the M 924 tablets are still being made, they are just on backorder and should be available again starting the week of July 24th.

This definitely cleared some things up for me but there's still a question about the Roxane brand, I'm not sure whether some pharmacies had some of that brand left in stock and still have some to fill prescriptions with or if they have started delivering to all of their regular carriers again. I will attempt to contact Roxane/West Ward again and see if I can get any type of definite answer from them. I emailed previously and did not receive any type of response from them. I know I absolutely hate the Hi Tech brand and the Actavis brand both, neither seem to work like the Roxane or the Mylan Buprenorphine tablets.

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I have been having the same problem at my pharm. I have been super tired and sluggish taking the little white ones and I was always on the 54 411s. Please post if u find out anything about the 54 411s. I am going to try to see if I can find a dif pharmacy that will order them considering my pharmacy acts like its a huge deal that I even ask for the 54s. Total BS!!!!! Keep us posted please. Im n ohio I dont know if its any dif here. Please help!!!!!#

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Re: Struggle (# 4)

I am in Louisiana and we have got the 54 411, but not mylan m924, they have been on back order for months! Now we have sun pharma with 460 on them, and they do not do anything, i felt bad for a month when taking those! But luckily 54 411, is always on stock at 3 different pharmacies!!

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For anyone having a hard time finding the 54 411's:

I live in VA and was going to Wegmans Pharmacy. I went to refill my prescription and was informed that they are no longer affiliated with Roxanne Laboraties because they sold their brand to Westward. They did a partial fill for me of their remaining 54-411's and I went to do some research on this new manufacturer. Ive been taking the 54-411's for over 3 years and have tried other brands and they didnt work as well. I noticed in looking into corporate pharmacies such as wegmans, cvs, walgreens, costco, walmart, etc that tney have more of a strict policy when it comes to manufacturers of controlled substances. In my research I also found that privately owned or "mom & pop" pharmacies have a lot more leniency because they are not restricted by corporate guidelines. Also they do have to still follow FDA regulations. So when I started calling around to find out what pharmacies carried or could order from Westward, I called a privately owned pharmacy and they had absolutely NO issue with ordering them. They also didn't judge me. I simply explained what I needed, and they did the rest. The pharmacist even went as far as to call me personally to welcome me as a new customer. I had explained how other pharmacies had done nothing but judge me and make me feel like a druggie. I've had pharmacists refuse to fill my prescription because they "didnt think I needed to take this medicine" and even go as far as to contact my doctors and demand to have access to my medical file which is illegal because of doctor patient confidentiality. Dealing with pharmacies since taking this medication has been a nightmare but I have finally found one that is kind, understanding, and not judgemental and cruel. If you are having trouble finding your preferred meds I would def look into the mom & pop pharmacies. I self pay for my subs and they are a little more expensive with a smaller pharmacy but paying a little more for preferred meds and professional service is worth it to me. Id rather pay more, get the meds I need, and better customer service than pay less, get meds that dont work, and be treated like a junkie. Have a good night everyone!

#savethemom&popshops

#recoverychronicles

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Re: Charlene (# 73)

Anyone who says they're getting Roxanne generic is getting them illegally through the black market they are absolutely in the real pharmaceutical world now and roads are two times more potent and last two times longer so if you are making the switch to the Rhodes Pharma generic be sure to keep that in mind and only take half of what you normally would take as the potency of Roads can make you sleepy the current 54 411 are himka and if they have the same imprints as the old Roxanne formulation but they most certainly are not their old rocks and formulation they are a garbage generic and of the cheapest price and quality Made in India under the name himka

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Were you able to find anything else out about Roxane/westward? I called them and was told that they are available and being distributed so they aren't sure why the pharmacies aren't able to get them. I had a call so many pharmacies to find one that had westward. It's crazy bc I have been on it for years and have never had a problem getting it up until a couple weeks ago. I hope this is just temporary.

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Re: Luxor (# 6)

I have been on hi-tech for years. Then this past weekend went to get my meds filled and was shocked to see they gave me the 54 411’s from Roxane Labs, which led me to this thread. So they are still making/distributing them. I’ve been in them for just 3 days and I don’t care for them as much as I did the Hi-Tech. I’m guessing it what you are using to. This pill is HUGE! And I usually 1/2 them, but these seem impossible to half evenly.

Good luck with everyone, I hope you get the MFG you want. I hate that the pharmacy chooses for us after years of brand loyalty!

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They still make the 54 411 but roxanne sold out to westward and westward uses their own formulation with the same imprints. That's why you see a huge appearance difference in the two since last year. Old Roxannes are shiny coated and not as crumbly as the new 54 411 and by now I'm sure most if not all pharmacies have already dispensed the remaining sealed bottles of the og Roxannes. Now you will have to take westward 54 411 which are not good. Just compare the images of the same pill from two years back and you will see a huge appearance difference. I recently heard they may discontinue bup, hopefully not though. With all that being said, I suggest getting the Rhodes generic. It is the newest put as of Oct 2017 with imprints RP b 8. They are easily 2 times more efficient than Roxanes now westward pharma and are made by Purdue. Get those and you will be very happy for the switch. They are hard to find though. Will most likely have to ask your pharmacy to order it and if they say no take your business elsewhere to a mom and pops shop that is located nearby to meet your needs like all pharmacies should as they are only in business because of us.

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I am going through the same, it got to the point I had to get the dr to write I needed 411 's, now they are on back order with to be determined !!!! So mad and those tiny things aren't the same to much filler!!! I guess it's time to be done with them since we can't order the 54-411s!

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Re: Krissy (# 16)

Try getting the Milan brand.. I get them every month and yes every once in a while they are on back order but they always usually come threw... and they are just as good as the 54 411s. Or try activist... those are my back up brands.

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Roxanne is now WestWard (they merged with WestWard and WestWard used their formula for the Subutex 54 411. Ask for either WestWard or Hikma. They’re the same company so my bottle says Hikma On it but it’s also WestWard. Weird, I know. But Mylan is no longer making Subutex because of a trade embargo and if you want the 54 411 white round sublingual tablets, ask for westward or Hikma. Hope that helps!

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Re: Charlene (# 84)

I guess everyone is different! I’m just scared as hell because I don’t know which brand I can even get. I think just Avitas or whatever it’s called. I thought it was Rhodes, but it’s stupid little wite ones

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Re: Hannah (# 104)

No the generics are not even close to the same. I'm so sick of hearing people say that or having pharmacy techs giving me attitude because I don't want certain brands because I've taken them and they are absolutely garbage. I miss the name brands and old Teva's. The generics have been getting worse and worse the past handful of years. There should always be a brand name or an equivalent using the same formula so people can choose to get quality over cheap crap.

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Re: Hannah (# 107)

Rhodes is on back order. So unless they JUST came off then those are not available. Rhodes is by far the best generic on the market in my opinion. Way better than the hikma pills. They are probably comparable to the old Roxanne pills before they changed them. The rest are garbage really. The only other one that even seemed like it was worth getting in an emergency was the actavis but it's full of fillers and the orange flavor kills me. Hi tech is way underdosed and sun was like I was taking a different medication and I had withdrawal even when I upped the dose. Mylan was the worst it had like no buprenorphine in them! Crazy.. I'm just hoping that Rhodes comes off of back order soon because this seems to happen every year with whatever brand I'm taking. I had gotten rhodes for 7 months straight then this month I had to get the hi techs and ugh jeez. This is ridiculous. They should bring back the brand name version and have it available to people who want high quality and don't mind paying more. Or sell the brand formula to a company who can release it as the brand name again. I would definitely only use the brand name if it was available.

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Yes ROXANNE SOLD OUT TO WESTWARD AND THEN WESTWARD SOLD OUT TO HIKMA. Hikma has tweaked the ingredients and they aren’t the same anymore in my opinion. Good luck. The best two on market now are Hikma and Rhodes/Perdue. Those are the only two worth a s***. The rest suck so bad. And now a new one is out called Acorn.

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Re: TexAsGirl (# 123)

Hi :),

I live in Washington, I went to Sams club and received the Roxannes for years. They closed the store and they were great! Then my stuff transferred to Walmart it was just fine for awhile, then one day they said without any notice that what they had had was on back order and then I believe they quit selling them :(. I don’t know but January 1st of this year I was forewarned that this was going to happen, all new generics and pharms were going to have changes I say that in the bs fashion. I was told by my pain dr basically what was going to happen. It’s a crock of crap! Everybody is worried About everything Pain pills this and that and this and that! Addiction etc etc. I know exactly what happened I hope you do your search!

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Re: Struggle (# 4)

It's your Rx, you can ask for any kind, brand shape, etc you want! As long as it's the same Rx your doctor store out! I had that problem, then I was told the same thing. Be confident! Not defensive! You're not doing anything wrong! I brand works better for you than another! That's all! Remember, ITS YOUR SCRIPT! You can TELL the pharmacy, "I want the big white 54 411 subutex!" If They give u attitude, calmly say, 'OK, I'm gonna go to a different pharmacy. I'll take my Rx back please!'

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Re: Struggle (# 4)

Ask for the RP brand there just as good and same size

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Re: Struggle (# 4)

I get mine In Ohio too and have been having the same problem.. if anyone out there knows if they stop making 54 411 let me know. I want to make sure pharmacies are not trying to control what medicine I spend my money on.

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