Did They Stop Making The Roxane 54 411 Buprenorphine? (Page 5)
UpdatedI have been getting the generic Subutex Roxane brand 54 411 Buprenorphine tablets for months now from Walmart pharmacy and the past two times I've gotten my prescription filled there, I was given a different generic made by Hi Tech with an 8 and an arrow. I asked them why the change because those little tablets just are not the same and they said the Roxane ones could not be ordered. I called around to other pharmacies I have gotten my prescription filled at before also and was also told that the Mylan M 924s can no longer be ordered either. What's going on with the Roxane and Mylan Buprenorphine tablets? Did they stop making them or is there some kind of shortage? I had the choice of getting the small Hi Tech tablets which seem alot less potent than the Roxane or the Actavis 153 half moon orange tablets which I cannot stand at all. Has anyone else had a problem getting the Roxanes or the Mylans or know for sure what's happening? I did see that Roxane merged with West Ward but don't know if that has anything to do with it or when the merge occurred and the 54 411 tablets are still listed on the West Ward site as a medication they manufacturer. I've heard everything from they are not making either of the brands anymore to there is just a temporary shortage of the brands.
Re: Hannah (# 80)
Yes, Roxane Pharma unfortunately did not merge, though I wish it was a simple merger, it full blown sold its company to Himka Pharmaceuticals for around 2.6 plus billion dollars and stock. If it were a merger we would still have some Roxane products around. Roxane was around since 1885, what a shame. Yes, Rhodes Pharmaceuticals is a company owned by Purdue Pharmaceuticals and the Rhodes tablet is actually made by Purdue Pharmaceuticals and dispensed by the smaller portion company Rhodes. The Rhodes tablet is a circular white tablet the size about the same as the old Roxane Pharma 54 411 tablets. The Rhodes tablet is also the same size as a Mylan tablet. It is imprinted RP on the front and B 8 on the back. The one it sounds like you had was the generic made by Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals owned by Akron Pharma. Hi-Tech products are actually made very well and with quality but a lot of feedback seems like only people who abuse their buprenorphine hcl like the small tablets by Hi-Tech with imprint "arrow logo" 8. Roxane made quality 54 411 tablets for buprenorphine hydrochloride when they were in business but since they sold all 54 411 tablet formulations have been very lesser and would even say bad quality and bad tablets. Himka may be using the old Roxane buprenorphine hydrochloride tablet imprints "54 411" but they certainly are not using the formulation for the buprenorphine hcl that Roxane owned used and made and sold with and form. This to me has ruined Himka for me. They are a very new company and just acquired a bunch of generic companies in big pharma using their own crap formulation off of Roxane's reputation and in a way old name. Sad and messy how these combined.
Re: Hannah (# 80)
peach are imprinted with half moon 153 made by activas. the ones u had are made by hi tech owned by akron pharma. which hi-tech makes good meds not sure y lot of people dont like their bup. IV users tend to like hi tech bup. the rhodes are very potent take accordingly. they r imprinted rp b8 and owned by purdue pharma. they r indentical to brand and possibly stronger
Re: Hannah (# 79)
That's great! You should be very happy. Rhodes Pharmaceuticals/Purdue makes the best buprenorphine hydrochloride on the market today, and hoorah, getting a bottle is always good news.
Re: goozer (# 76)
Hi, I'm prescribed 8mg x 3 day..the Rhodes do not make me sleepy at all..out of all the generics I like Rhodes the best..I actually get motaviation from them and they are most definitely stronger than others on the market..I only other one I will accept is hikma brand .so the only reason I would get hikma brand IS IF my normal pharmacy didn't get there shipments and it's time for a refill
Re: goozer (# 82)
thank you for the info. The only ones I can get at the moment say M924 on them. The akron ones are available too but they aren’t horrible. This is scary since I been on these for many years!
Re: Charlene (# 84)
I guess everyone is different! I’m just scared as hell because I don’t know which brand I can even get. I think just Avitas or whatever it’s called. I thought it was Rhodes, but it’s stupid little wite ones
Re: Hannah (# 86)
As a patient, you are legally able to get whichever generic manufacturer you want and is available through Pharmacy wholesalers such as Cardinal and McKesson, AmerisourceBergen, Etc... You just need to talk to a pharmacist who cares and is willing to order in the generic you need and tell them if it cost them more money to order it in you will pay the difference. Order rhodes, they are flooded all around pharmacies and if not they certainly can be ordered by any one of the wholesalers. So go to a pharmacy or call them and inform them you have a constant prescription for buprenorphine which will be constant business for them at a high quality and you are wanting them to take on your prescription if they're willing to order the generic you need.
Re: Hannah (# 86)
*white sorry.
I don’t know if I can get Rhodes, we will find out. Hopefully I’ll be okay!
Re: Hannah (# 86)
Is the United States patient you are legally able to get whichever generic made buprenorphine hydrochloride tablet that you need. If the pharmacy refuses to order it for you inform them you will pay the difference of what it cost for them to order it for you it should not be that much. Just call the nearest pharmacy that's not a CVS Walgreens or Walmart and if asked them if they dispense the preferred generic you want and if they don't ask them if they were order your preferred generic in and tell them that it is a constant prescription and they will certainly be making business then tell them which generic you want sometimes it's easier for them if you provide the NDC number to them as well
Hannah (# 87) --
Rhodes pharmaceutical brand name buprenorphine hydrochloride tablets are everywhere and are listed under every pharmaceutical wholesaler so your Pharmacy can get them. Trust me, it's a matter of the conversation you have with them on ordering it in for you but legally they can and they should. If you need help, inform me of your location and I will see which nearest pharmacy around you can do that for you and will do that for you if they don't already dispense it, but I will say that the roads 2mg tablets are much harder to have ordered in so hopefully you have the 8mg.
Hannah (# 87) --
They r listed under all major pharma comps. that send to retail pharmas. Just stay away from big chain pharmas (i.e. walgreens, cvs, etc.). Better luck with mom n pops pharmas and inform them it is a constant rx so it will be worth their time n get em their flow.
Re: Hannah (# 85)
Yes, the M 924 are mylan which are hard for lots of people to find these days and a lot are searching for mylan pharma M 924s. They are as good as the himka 54 411s but the rhodes are double the strength of any and double potency and last at least twice as long. A half is even enough. A full one 8mg rp b8 tablet when taken is quite strong and if u dont have a body that has a strong tolerance, a full 8mg rp b8 rhodes tab can put u on your butt quick and make you sleepy as buprenorphine. But mylan is good and better than Hi-Tech quality buprenorphine surprisingly because normally Hi-Tech is quality and makes amazing medications where Mylan Pharmaceuticals is usually quite the opposite except for their buprenorphine hydrochloride.
Hannah (# 87) --
Don't be scared! The govern and big pharma are faded and its sad they make people feel this way and worry all cuz their desire for power and money. That's why we are here. Goozer is here to help! What's the generic you're looking for and want?...Where are you located?
Re: Charlene (# 84)
I agree with you Charlene that's certainly true for me as well they give me motivation a lot and definitely help me get out of bed when I suffer from a closing Spondylitis which can be very hard near impossible sometimes. I will never feel with the Himka generic again but that is just me and I can assure everybody that there is a pharmacy around you that will always have the roach generic I'm prescribed a 8mg four times a day for pain. trust me they all over and they r hrand name and within a year everyome will concur that they're the best strongest and most quality made deep enough and hydrochloride tablets ever made on the market yet. It is strange though because everybody's tolerance can be different to chemicals for example my tolerance to all types of drugs is very high even if I haven't tried the drug before whereas my wife's tolerance is very low to all types of drugs even if she has tried them before so some people just have weak tolerances to all drug types and some people have strong tolerance is to all drug types going along with the one size does not fit all and also going along with the fact that some people could weigh the same be the same height and need a much higher dose of a medication compared to a person that is the same way and I as them as well who maybe even has a tolerance to them everybody's body tolerance drugs is different
Re: goozer (# 92)
So Charlene when I see people saying that the roads Pharma makes them sleepy it is just simply because they're very potent to their body type of tolerance to drugs and they probably should just be taken half and saving the others.
Re: goozer (# 95)
Thx for the reply. So as noted I am very happy with Rhodes. My question is, could all these lawsuits against Purdue with the oxycontin hurt our supply of the Rhodes? Well now after I write this I'm thinking no...not unless they go under or something.
Re: Hannah (# 86)
Just like goozer has said most everyone agrees with Rhodes being the best..he also has helped me out with all different types of medications to..and guided me how to find and ask for Rhodes..my best luck was at a mom n pop shop. Now even when you order your buprenorphine before they even fill it I always ask ..what brand they have in stock before hand.that way you don't end up with something your not going to be happy with for the whole month.. he has tought me so much about this medication and how to only accept the best
Re: Charlene (# 96)
Apparently Roxanne is not done with because I got some today at the pharmacy... I live in a very tiny town and they only have the peach ones or Roxanne... I hope I can order Rhodes when these Roxanne’s stop coming in. Thank you and Goozer for the replies!
Re: goozer (# 93)
Thanks so much for answering all my questions. I’ve been taking the Roxanne brand for 5 years now, and I’m scared to switch over, but I have to since they won’t be making them anymore. I’m in a small town in Oregon in the coast. (Tillamook) I used to drive almost 2 hours to get them at Walmart because there are no Walmart’s near me. We have Fred Meyer and Safeway. The Walmart that I was going to before switched to the M ones. I don’t think I i have access to Rhodes. My only other options would be the crappy high tech ones! Thanks again, I won’t have to switch until next month. Hopefully it wont be so bad! It’s scary that people have to go through this type of stuff when they are just trying to live a better life!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I am having the same issue. I remember last March the M923 went on backorder and never came back now the 54 411 the same thing....ugh
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