Adderall Backorder (Page 8)
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I take generic Adderall 20 mg for narcolepsy and there is not one local pharmacy that has it in stock. I have never had this problem before. The pharmacies are saying that it's on backorder from the manufacturer. Is anyone else having problems getting their scripts filled?

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Re: Rcma (# 1824)

I was under the impression that most insurance doesn't or won't cover it. Still good to know though, I'm def going to check my pbm. Thank you! Do you happen to know what the brand version is called, or does it have one?

The only thing I've been able to get so far has been Vyvanse, but I can't afford a $200 copay just bc its the only other thing I've been able to find. Last month my doc said patients have reported issues finding Concerta locally as well. Thinking of focalin next but at this point I'm afraid of everything being out of stock. It's never been this bad for this long. :(

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Has anyone tried Dextroamphetamine Sulfate ER as a temporary alternative to Adderall?

It's manufactured by Actavis for TEVA as Dexedrine Spansule generic.

I recently discovered from my CVS pharmacist contact who keeps me apprised of all supply status issues with their supplier (Cardinal) -- she said that the demand for Dextroamphetamine ER is coincidentally low so she filled it immediately despite Adderall being non existent... Just a heads up.

I'm not an ER or XR person, I prefer IR. I'm gonna give it a try and see...

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Re: Kayla (# 1771)

I feel for you to have suffered like this, and it is a crying shame that this society and doctors in general are so unempathetic.

No one lives in another person's body, and they should not have the right to judge if someone is "really" suffering/in pain/despair, etc.

Managed health care, big corporate takeovers of hospitals/practices, Big Pharma's shenanigans, AI/algorithm-driven merging of medicine with Big Tech, the drug war/alphabet agencies overriding patients' bodily autonomy and quality of life, and many other factors have created a Dante's inferno scenario for anyone who ever needs to seek any type of health care.

I listened to my elderly relatives (before they passed) talk about their caring doctor who did house calls and cared about their patient's welfare. What a far cry from today!

Can you name another industry where the professionals not only still get paid if they not only treat their customers with disrespect while not fixing the problem they are supposed to fix, but also get paid more when the customer comes back with the same problem, or worse? Or unilaterally tells the customer that their individual experiences re: the issue are irrelevant because the algorithm knows best, or that the customer is lying about their problem? Or that the solution to the problem is now "unavailable" just because, and it's not his responsibility, tough luck!

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Re: Ryelee (# 1816)

Let me know how it goes for your refil. I hope you are able to get your medicine! I know for me, it is so damn nerve wracking the few days leading up to my next prescription. Once I get something filled I can relax but the same thing happens every month. My next due date is march 17. So on the 16 I have to call around and try to find a pharmacy that has anything and once that happens I then have to call my doctor and ask her to put in my refil before leaving for that Thursday because she’s not in on Friday due to saint Patricks day, so if I don’t time this right or if I don’t find anything before Thursday early afternoon I’ll be screwed until at least Monday. I know other people are so much worse off and I am a grateful for having something and yes I am trying to save some to get my through just in case but my symptoms are so severe that if I don’t take my dose I literally can’t get out of bed and I’m so depressed and angry. Once this gets back to normal flow if it does (I hear in may?) I’m going to stock pile as much as I possibly can for when this happens again. Best of luck filling tomorrow please keep me posted!

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tim (# 1819) --

FYI, because of my brevity an incorrect assumption was made regarding my post, which was NOT intended to opine or comment on a person's appropriate dosage. I can see how it *seemed* that way because I did NOT include the earlier thread information, which was specifically about the online FDA dosage guidelines; and how, UNFORTUNATELY for all of us, the DEA is using THESE guidelines when they decide annual production limits. So... To be clear.... *I don't have any opinion, nor is it my business, about any dosages decided between a patient and a doctor.* Not my business or concern.

Now, what I SHOULD have said (my bad) is that *according to the arbitrary FDA guidelines and the moronic decisions or the DEA (not according to me), anyone taking over 40mg for ADHD or 70mg for narcolepsy is "over medicated.". YES, I am 100% in agreement that it's between a doctor and the patient.... and the FDA and especially the DEA should NOT be meddling in private medical decisions for Americans. So, again, my poorly stated point was that the DEA would consider it over medicated.... and the DEA establishes the annual distribution limits nationwide. By their incorrect calculations, there is enough being distributed to pharmacies. But they are basing it on 40mg max. Hopefully this clears this up. Earlier in the thread we were discussing FEDERAL dosage limits and how that is adding to the shortage. I absolutely have zero interest in other people's treatment plans.

Can we all communicate without automatically assuming the worst in someone? Yes, my message was brief and ambiguous; no I wasn't getting into anyone's business; yes I was attempting to point out how the DEA sees dosages. Peace out. May everyone including myself see an end to this Federal mismanagement of medication distribution. It's been horrible for all of us. Sending good vibes everywhere....

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Re: Ryelee (# 1816)

Just ignore him. Your medication is between you and your doctor

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Re: Ryelee (# 1816)

Thanks I needed a good laugh!

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Re: tim (# 1800)

I’m glad you pointed that out. I haven’t checked this forum in some time. After reading the newest post I started googling to find info and couldn’t find anything that was current.

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Re: Rcma (# 1792)

Since everyone is different and I don’t get prescribed adderall for narcolepsy I’m not overprescribed. I also did not start at my current dose it was gradually increased over a period of almost 15 years. Also your not my physician so who are you to tell me anything???? Please keep your so called medical advice to yourself

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Re: Mauricio (# 1804)

I agree everyone is different and there is no one dose for everyone. I’m due for one of my scripts on Tuesday and hoping I have no issues. Due to this ongoing adderall backorder I no longer get both of my scripts on the same day.

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The plot thickens. Finally some investigative reporting that isn't just press releases from lying FDA spokespersons and pharmacies. Interesting that TODAY my pharmacist said they are told MAY will see normalization of supply... Why May I wondered? Well ... that's when Telehealth ENDS and in person appointments are mandatory. This is such an egregious and disorganized overreach by big government, undermining the integrity of doctors and mental health of patients, Their job performances, school grades, chronic fatigue and narcolepsy. The DEA needs an independent inspector general because this is idiotic:. Make a COVID policy allowing Telehealth. Then penalizing everyone and creating national mayhem.

AXIOS

The Drug Enforcement Administration last Friday moved to require doctors to evaluate patients in person before writing prescriptions for controlled medications including Adderall and OxyContin when the public health emergency ends in May.

It's the agency's latest move to curb virtual overprescribing of controlled substances, which DEA administrator Anne Milgram said in a statement will widen access "while ensuring the safety of patients."

The DEA didn't respond to a request for comment about criticisms of the policy in time for publication.
How it works: After a six-month grace period, the rules would halt a patient's ability to receive some controlled substances via telehealth if the patient has never been seen in person.

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Shire Pharmaceuticals LLC and other subsidiaries of Shire plc are responsible for unlawful motives including financial gain to induce an Adderall shortage for clinics, physicians and patients Shire also has the rights to Vyvanse® (lisdexamfetamin dimesylate). Appeals Court Affirms Shire’s Vyvanse® (lisdexamfetamine dimesylate) Patents Are Valid Until 2023.

Ruling bars generic versions of Vyvanse from entering market until patents expire. This is a desperate act for criminal finacial gain. Vyvanse is currently the only alternative to Adderall IR and Adderall XR. 30mg Vyvanse bid is 700$. 30mg Adderall bid is 57$. Insurance fraud?

Shire issued a statement disclaiming responsibility for the Adderall shortage. Saying "Adderall IR, the immediate-release formulation of Shire's attention deficit hyperactivity disorder treatment, may be running short, but Adderall XR, the extended-release version--is readily available." This is a lie.

Lexington, Mass. – September 24, 2015 – Shire plc (LSE: SHP, NASDAQ: SHPG) announces today that the Court of Appeals of the Federal Circuit has upheld the summary judgment ruling of the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey that certain claims of the patents protecting Vyvanse® (lisdexamfetamine dimesylate). I am a concerned person with a disability. Shire holds the patents to Vyvanase. Fraud against Medicare medical and the general public is reprehensible and unacceptable. If you need a person to speak out or need an end users perspective.

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Re: Terry (# 1810)

The final outcome will be interesting. Please keep this discussion updated. Also include links to news reports and court documents

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Re: Terry (# 1806)

Only class action suits work with meds. Otherwise it's all about the 4th Estate and congressional oversight. Everyone call your confessional rep.

There's a new opinion article out, see CNBC.

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1809)

Pharma comy haven't manufacturered 20mg IR tabs of dextroamphetamine sulfate in 15+ years minimum.

Guidelines are NORMS and without norms tx plans become chaos and the wild West. There is something to be said for responsible dosing.

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1808)

I studied law but chose a different route after grad school. A few friends are attorneys, one in particular took the case and felt it would be a good challenge. I totally agree though, it is expensive which unfortunately detours a lot of people from protecting their rights.

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Re: Mauricio (# 1804)

I know someone that was prescribed Dextroamphetamine 20 mg immediate release, four times a day for 25 yrs. The guidelines are only that, guidelines. It is common for insurance companies to require Prior Authorization when the dosage is high

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Re: Terry Rains (# 1806)

Pretty much anyone can sue. Unless a judge finds the suit is frivolous. You will not find an attorney that will take the case. Unless you have the mega bucks to pay for the cost. Attorneys know these suits are a waste of time and money. You can represent yourself. You will need to be able to understand the law. Lay people rarely understand what the laws mean in a court of law.

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1793)

Yes, I'm aware. I've been on this medication for 14 years. But alot of folks just started it in the last couple years, and probably don't realize it was temporary.

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1801)

I’ve confirmed with my newly retained attorney, yea you can sue the FDA and DEA under the FTCA. I plane to send the initial administrative complaint this week (step 1). If they don’t respond in 60 days I can in fact sue for negligence and proof of loss etc. just have to follow a very specific set of rules and guidelines.

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