Abuse Deterrent Xtampza Vs. Oxycontin (Page 2)

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Newly FDA approved Xtampza ER has a different abuse deterent additive than Oxycontin, however I have not tried it yet for effectiveness. I have taken Oxycontin over 10 years so I felt the huge difference when they began adding abuse additive to it. I am curious if anyone has info on this new med, how it works as compared to Oxycontin, or all info on it that may help me decide if I should switch? I always had excellent results with Oxycontin but when the abuse stuff was started it took so much away from effectiveness. Appreciate any info. Thanks.

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Re: Markemark (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

When you say "kicked your ass" does that mean in a good way or bad way?

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Xtampza er is bulls***. For 1 the prices are ridiculous.

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Re: Likewise (# 22) Expand Referenced Message

I think everyone agrees that it's expensive. Any thoughts on how it works or doesn't work for you?

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Been on xtampza for several months. Was on 30mg oxycontin 2 a day before that with 5 mg of oxycodone up to 4 times a day for break through pain. I found the xtampza works fine for me. In fact I can make it through the 12 hours and was never able to do that with oxycontin.

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Re: Lynn (# 24) Expand Referenced Message

12 hours! That's great. Is your Xtrampza er Rx equivalent to your previous Rx? I can never tell if mine's lasting the same from one day to the next. Some things I do one day I pay for it the next day or two at least. I'm trying to move around more but my muscles don't like it. When I hurt I just crawl in the bed and sleep. My pm suggested a Zumba class! He knows I'll never do it but he's trying. Just wants me to get my heartrate up and lose 'some' weight. Gotta help. Sorry I started talking about me. I ask everyone about what they take with the Xtrampza. How about you? Everyone has a different answer. Don't know if I'm doing it right. I'd appreciate your insight since you seem to have the formula right. Again, I'm really glad that you're doing well. Nobody likes to hurt. Thanks for letting me pick your brain! G'day!

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Re: Lou (# 25) Expand Referenced Message

I have been on Xtampza 36 mg.ER C12A for about five months. I also have Oxycodone 15mg up to 5 times a day for break through pain. Most days I only need two of them and some days I don't use any of them.
I have a great pain management doctor. She doesn't like her patients in pain. I have pain every day. Some days it's bad then other days it is horrible. I have new l take them for back and neck pain. I have several discs that in my back and neck that are very mean. LOL. Also arthritis along with other problems. I was on 75mg of MS Contin, but they had gone way up in price. I needed something else for the long acting medicine. For me the Xtampza 36mg works good. It is expensive, but the company will give you a discount card. The first prescription is free then they are $25.00 a month. Like I said, for me they work really good. If you don't think they are working just stop taking for a couple of days. I was without mine for a week, and wow, I hurt so darn bad. Give them about a week or two before you decide that they aren't working. I wish you luck in finding some pain relief.

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Re: Axl (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

This is called abuse of the drug if u have a tolerance that high you should be taking methadone or suboxen

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Re: Markemark (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

I hope you are right! I have to switch from Oxycontin er 30mg to whatever equivalents to Xtampza because of insurance. Also on oxycodone 15mg 4x a day. Hopefully I will not notice a difference or get more relief like you say! So tired of taking pills! But it’s the only way I can function. I’ve tried cutting down but if I do, I end up laid up because it’s just too painful to move.

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I'm having trouble getting my insurance to pay for the Xtampza. Any information on how to get the discount card? I'm really hoping this medicine is going to help me get through the days with work, and home life. I have severe chronic foot pain and I have been taking 30+ mg of Percocet everyday. (10 mg. At a time) I tried Butrans patches and they didn't touch my pain. Just caused irritation and had me nodding off every time I sat down lol. I don't need that! I need relief!! My job is very physical and wearing shoes is extremely painful! Thanks for the information! Good luck to you all!

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Re: Darda (# 15) Expand Referenced Message

Have you tried taking any type of hard to swallow medicine with pudding or applesauce something like that?

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Re: Gin1229 (# 29) Expand Referenced Message

Go to their website. They have a discount card that you can print out.

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Re: Axl (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

I'm sorry but if you're taking that many it screams addiction to me. Please be careful. You can overdose that way. I promise no judgement only caring about you as a human being

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Re: Lou (# 17) Expand Referenced Message

Have taken Percocet for 5 yrs. no problem, only 4 10 mg. a day sometimes more or less. MScontin 15mg.@ nite. My concern is that I can't even open a bottle of pills in the AM! I cannot wait hours to get relief just to get out of bed! With my Percocet tab 1rst thing and read 15-30 minutes, I'm up and about quicker. It may be abuse resistant but what about the majority of us thats aren't abusing and need to get up and go to work? My insurance Co. is forcing this on me next yr! I can control exactly what I need for different days by using 1/2 tabs, then add another 1/2 if needed. Thus taking less sometimes. With Extampra er i have to take a full dose not knowing if i need it some days!

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Re: Axl (# 2) Expand Referenced Message

I never could take anything like Percocet or hydrocodone or oxycodone which I hate because I heard it does offer great pain relief. Isn't there a kit you can buy that tells you what's in it and the fillers? I've heard of those before but I'm not sir how effective they are. It seems a good pharmacy would tell you the honest truth about it! I almost wonder if they're making more expensive drugs for everyone to try and then in 10 yrs say it's addicting like they did ultram which is a drug people used to throw away. It helps more with depression in my opinion but as others have said it's all about money! Good luck to you! I hope you get some answers!

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My doctor is thinking of putting me on this basically because we have tried almost everything else. If she decides to do this I will give it a try and pray it works because my current medication Kadian isn't doing anything at all. I am already on oxy 15 four times a day for breakthrough and it works so I think she believes the xtampza will help as well. I can't tolerate the oxycontin and maybe it is due to what they put in it for abuse deterrent but I'm not sure. I do know that for whoever said it is impossible to abuse xtampza that's wrong. Even the website for the drug says it has a deterrent but it isn't tamper proof. I'm not encouraging people to abuse it but thinking it can't be is incorrect. It has the same deterrent as Avinza and Focalin XR small little beads that release st different times. If I do try this I know my insurance will give me a hard time about it. And most of those Co pay cards require that your orginal insurance isn't medicare/medicaid. Now I'm lucky because my disability insurance has never let me down paying for anything even things that aren't on the formulary so I hope this goes the same. Thanks for all your opinions on how it works for you. I'll let you know how I do if I end up changing to it. I hope all of you get relief soon.

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Re: Markemark (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

Hi there and thanks for sharing your experience with this medication. I was wondering if you could please be more specific about when you say it kicked your ass? Was it drowsiness? Excessive nausea? Thanks.

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

Here's the deal, my opinion - Pharma wouldn't change original formulation until their 7 year patent ran out, even though they had the "recipe" long before patent expiration. As my Drill Sargent was fond of saying "y'all ain't gotta be no rock science" (translation is rocket scientist), to figure it out... $$$$$$$$. No law firm will touch this issue on our behalf. Even if we were able to get some form of litigation together, how many of us would fear some type of retribution from our health insurance providers or doctors? I know it may sound paranoid, but who else fears being screwed even further by speaking out about this? I can only wish for these greedy bastards to "walk a mile" in our shared misery, let's say a never-ending mile. The saying "I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy" -Screw them!! We all know they've got the money & power to be able to sidestep (exactly like the politicians) the laws of this country.

I've got more surgeries to look forward to. What will happen to us next week, month, or a year from now? In my state, guess who has a vested interest in the medical marijuana industry? For a fact, anesthesiologists, cops (no bulls***). Here, as elsewhere in the country, anesthesiologists (highest paid specialty in medicine) are our pain management "professionals". The Hippocratic Oath should be redesignated as the "Hippocritic Oath". So far I've been fortunate enough to have my Primary Care doc here to help me. I've been with him since before this clusterbomb went nuclear. Oops, look at the time!!! Time to abuse my meds! I mean take my Doctor approved medication on schedule, in the proper dose. As in the movie Blues Brothers, Elwood says to Jake, "May the Lord of Blessed Acceleration Be With Us Now", just before being chased by "Rollers". Ironic, I just now realized that John Belushi died from an overdose. This is the country I joined the Service to defend, "the incompetence of the VA being a totally different, although related subject" I'm not going to delve into at this point in time. It's nice to relate to others in my position, as sad as things are, rather than having my loving wife listen to more of my rage.

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Re: Really agitadated right shoulder Oxycontin guy (# 37) Expand Referenced Message

You are absolutely right! I wish I had my orthopedic dr... we were close for 21 years and I had to see my primary dr about all the strange things going on and my orthopedic dr warned me he was afraid I'd be sent to pain management and be screwed over in a web of deceit! He was right! I thought he was going to retire so I figured I guess I should go, big mistake! My orthopedic dr wrote out any pain meds needed but he switched out and checked on me every 3 months and he even took care of antibiotics so I should have stayed with him! He was an army dr in Vietnam then was head of surgery at our hospital for years. He told me how bad things were getting but I had to listen to my primary dr about cancer they thought I had causing pain, so I was sent to pain management. I often wonder if they trade you out too, lol. I had no idea those places existed! And the stupid contract! I often wonder if I should tell my orthopedic dr my situation since he practically saw me grow up in his office! Off that subject! so what do you really think is going on? I mean legalizing marijuana then all of a sudden deciding opiates are killing us and I'd love to see their real reports on overdoses because like I said before, whenever I worked in the lab I only saw overdoses with mixed illicit drugs. So I don't see how they can claim it's prescription drugs given to legit patients! And wouldn't pharmaceutical companies want to make money? It's like maybe they are creating a more expensive addictive drug??? Idk but it's bs and I guess one has to be held hostage to keep their meds! It's confusing!

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Re: Ktb (# 38) Expand Referenced Message

Just saw something the other day about big pharma. I'll put it out there for the rest of you. Check it out please & spread the word!!!
They are "researching" (I can't even describe how frustrating to properly emphasize with these quotation marks) in Columbia. Yup.
They've paid, more specifically we've paid to get around FDA/DEA rules in the U.S.A. If they do it here, openly, they would be prosecuted & lose their monopolies to screw/abuse us legally.

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Re: Really agitadated right shoulder Oxycontin guy (# 39) Expand Referenced Message

Ok I will be watching for it !!! Nothing surprises me anymore and yes we are constantly screwed over !

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