2012 Oxycodone 30mg Shortage In Florida (Page 7)
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My spouse, who is in severe, chronic pain, has been a customer of Walgreens for many years. We live in Pinellas County, Florida. Everyday this week we have driven from Walgreen's to Walgreen's trying to fill his prescription for Roxicodone 30mg, to no avail. I cannot get any help from his regular pharmacy. I know that it's dangerous for them to tell a total stranger which store has them in stock, but I don't understand since they know him, why they can't call around or give us any assistance. I am at a total loss as to what to do & would appreciate any information that you could provide. It is so hard to see him in so much pain. Thank you.

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Amen Brim. This so called pharmacist thinks we should suffer and obviously doesn't know anything about how all pain clinics are having to operate. Yes, I have insurance, MRI's that show damage. You should do some research before u pass judgment on cpp and pain mgt Drs. Legitimate patients are being scrutinized in every wy. I didn't choose to be on pain med. It was a last option for me, I've tried many things. If you are a pharmacist, u should know there's a site a dr and pharmacist can go to and make sure the patient isn't dr shopping and or getting different meds from different drs. We are put through enough, and I will no longer let you antagonize me or anyone else here who just wants a place where they're not alone in their suffering. To all the cpp here, God bless and to the heartless sob pharmacist, you'll be judged when it's your time. Karma comes around.

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Alright...I said the last past was going to be my last...but you asked if we have insurance. Yes, I have insurance. Does that make a difference? Why? Do you fill for people that pay cash? That's how many of the pharmacists are...if you come in with insurance, they are conveniently "out" but if you're paying cash, amazingly, they have a good supply...of course, it will cost you about $600-$800 per 100 30 mg. oxycodone.....I have insurance, don't know about the others. As I said in one of my other posts, I don't go to the the one surgeon that would prescribe my pain meds because he doesn't accept my insurance. If he accepted the plan I am on, I would be there in a heartbeat.

For all the others posting, thanks for the support. I too follow all the rules that are very stringent. If the "pharmacist" thinks anyone on narcotic pain meds is getting a free ride, he's nuts. Every month I have to bring in proof that I actually filled my prescriptions and where I filled them. I am drug tested to make sure I take them and the doctors constantly tell me how the DEA is up their butts with new regulations almost on a monthly basis. My meds were cut by 20 per month two months ago. Not because I was getting better but because the DEA thinks the doctors should prescribe over a certain amount. Maybe some of us do take more than is absolutely necessary, however, as a "pharmacist" you should know that you body becomes immune to the affects of the medication and it doesn't work as well over a period of time. I made it last month with less and this month I'm having to tough it out with only the meds I take at night and ibuprofen. Obviously, it's not going to be a good month for me. Thanks for the support from everyone and Mr. Pharmacist, you can basically kiss my a**!!!

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I'm very curious do you guys have any insurance?
if so what tYpe

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Exactly right, Paula- this "pharmacist" will lose his license once someone he refused dies from abrupt withdrawal anyway, so he may as well fill prescriptions for law-abiding citizens suffering every day. Pain management clinics are VERY regulated now, so he doesn't know what he's talking about. All doctors are scared the DEA will bust them for giving out one too many prescriptions, so they've all enacted strict rules for patients whom they prescribe string narcotics to. Monthly or bimonthly drug tests, bringing in their meds for a count, etc, etc. sound like a "free ride"?! What a vapid moron. Good luck with your condition Paula, and I hope you find a CARING pharmacist in your county. Try an independent pharmacy that accepts insurance.

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There's no way this guy is a pharmacist. Not only is he unable to string together a decent sentence, but he is telling us ALL pain management doctors are glorified drug dealers and "illegitimate", and they all pass out sched 2 narcotics like water. Wrong, yet again, fake pharmacist. Most pain clinics have stringent rules in place for all patients taking narcotic medication, where they must bring in their medication to prove they've been keeping the correct dosages, do urine tests and typically their patients have a proven history that needs to be verified in order for the doctor to prescribe something that strong. Meaning the patient must have, on file, a history with physicians prescribing weaker pain meds for a long period of time, with no sign of doctor shopping and imaging proving a condition has worsened over time. See, you are not a doctor, once again, and obviously have never worked in a pain management clinic, which means you're judgmental and complete,y ignorant opinion is based on absolutely nothing. The DEA is always trying to strong arm doctors and pharmacists into screwing over patients, but if you fill a script for a licensed physician, by law, you cannot be charged with anything. Do you think people suffering from life-altering chronic pain give a crap if you're too much of a selfish jerk and a baby to fill legit prescriptions? They would rather you lose your license a million times over than live with that kind of pain, and you really should lose your license. Cruel, uncaring people have no place in any establishment related to health and medicine. Not that pharmacists do much as it is nowadays. To be honest, you're a glorified pill counter and you're probably bitter because you thought you'd be doing meaningful work, and now you're taking it out on patients. You've contradicted yourself multiple times to the point where I'm very doubtful you are even a pharmacist, however. I'd guess maybe pharmacy tech, tops. By the way, going right to an orthopedic surgeon for back pain?? Are you insane?! That is the absolute last resort. You never, ever see an orthopedic surgeon for back pain before you've exhausted your other options. I take that back- you certainly can get a consult. But that surgeon will likely recommend surgery when ut isn't necessary yet, and clearly you are clueless as to how long recovery is and how utterly debilitating it is post-surgery for a patient. If you are a real pharmacist, you're a testament to the crappy quality of the pharmacy schools littering the country right now. You need to go back. You are not only too judgmental and cold to be working anywhere near a pharmacy, but you seem utterly devoid of ANY knowledge about medical conditions and treatments. I wish we all knew where you worked, so we could all avoid it like the plague. And like another poster who also thinks you're brainless said, you need to go back to India to see the ridiculous drug free-for-all going on over there, and then tell us "this would never happen in India". Lol!! No, Indian on,one pharmacies just ship narcotic drugs without prescriptions to anyone with the money to buy them- 6 year olds, college students with no medical need for them, whoever. Your country has contributed to the abuse of narcotics in the usa by selling them openly online more than all the pain clinics in the country combined. I really do hope your superiors wise up and fire you. I know there are hundreds of pharmacists with hearts that are desperate for work right now, and would find you just as despicable as every doctor I've talked to about you and your ridiculous, callous opinion.

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Paula, Walgreens did something like that to me also. Here I am, a 50+ person, used Walgreens for years. I've gone to same pain mgt, same insurance, submit to monthly drug test that btw is sent out @ 1,800 each time of which I'm responsible for 400 out of pocket. I was filling @ Walgreens for over 2 yrs no problem. Last may, I bring my prescription, and was told" good luck with that". I asked to speak to someone in the pharmacy, and the old " were not comfortable filling this". I had never seen this one, and thought she was a pharmacy tech. I was livid, and called Walgreens corporate to file a complaint. Not 5 minite later a corporate drone called me back and said that was the pharmacist on duty, and she doesn't have to fill anything for you..and by the way, I presume this is for roxycodone, I said yes, and I've not had a problem til now. Couldn't care less,:treated me like a pos. I went to several other Walgreens, and was told to go back to my Walgreens. The the worst, and they don't care about us. Must've been a note in my records bc the whole company wouldn't help with anything from that day forward. What I find so wrong is many of us play by the rules do what they want of us and still won't help. I wouldn't use Walgreens if tjeu were the last pharmacy on earth. They send you around

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Tired of arguing....it does no good :( However, I do have this to say...when you have been taking these meds for a while (anywhere from a few months to a few years), we all know your body becomes dependent upon them. It says right on the patient information to NOT stop taking the medication abruptly. However, the pharmacies are causing us to stop taking them abruptly which then puts some people into severe withdrawal which could possibly kill them. Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong. I'm not stupid. I'm educated. I may not be a pharmacist, but I have the good sense to educate myself about what I am taking. As I said, there is a reason I take the medication that I do rather than something else. I would rather be productive than a vegetable in bed drugged and asleep. You say the doctors and pharmacists are ultimately responsible if something happens to the patients because of them prescribing or dispensing the medication.....well what happens when something happens to a patient because of abrupt withdrawal? Who answers for that one?

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exactly you said the other dr does not want to write you the medication, that would be because they are not wanting to put the license on the line so they refer you to a pain management basically a doctor who is willing to write large amounts or heavy schedule 2 narcotic.... I will be honest you have got yourself in quite a pickle and I don't really feel that you are at fault. but honestly do you expect me to fill your prescription when I have dea people visit my pharmacy on a weekly basis to see what we have dispensed understand that I have had a chance tell me you will go to jail.... but from what I understand in the next year to year and a half there will be dispensaries set up for c2 meds

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Okay, here I go again in response to the "pharmacist." The reason I and many other patients to go "pain management" practices is because many of the other physicians don't want to prescribe pain meds and send you to a pain management physician. That's what happened to me. On top of that, the one surgeon that I could find willing to take care of the pain management rather than referring me on does not accept my insurance. So what am I supposed to do? When you figure this out "Mr. Pharmacist," you let us all know okay???

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you are absolutely right I am NOT a doctor, but when the Florida Board of Pharmacy & the DEA let all of the pharmacists know that we are facing prosecution if we dispense this medication and something should go bad. or they simply do not want us filling medication for pain management clinics ........ guess what I'm not going to put my ass on the line goto a legitimate doctor.
if you have back problems; go to an orthopedic surgeon or if you have brain cancer go to a neurosurgeon or an oncologist. anyone coming in with prescriptions from them we will fill your medication with no problem whatsoever, to give you an example I filled a prescription on Thursday for a 39 year old patient that's was being treated by an oncologist 720 tablets oxycodone 30 mg you people do not understand it is not the medication that is the problem it is who is prescribing it pain management clinics will not get prescriptions filled in Florida .

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You are a callous awful person. Thank God there are good pharmacists left out there that are still willing to help chronic pain sufferer's. You're a travesty to the medical field. I wish no one harm. I hope someday you suffer like the dog you are and need pain meds and try to get them filled by someone like yourself. You're evil, and yo judge everyone as you do, you will be judged. Thank God I have developed a relationship with my pharmacist and he understands my need for 1 medication that gives me some quality of life. My insurance covers my Dr visits and my med. Now go rot somewhere until judgement day cones for you. you're less than human, you're an animal.

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Lol, right, YOU are out for the patients best interest but ALL doctors only care about money. You're a joke and an embarrassment to the medical field. I'm going to earn my doctorate in a few months and I will tell you that I would NEVER hand out schedule medication if I did not have imaging proving excessively painful and degenerative conditions. Again, you're not a doctor!! And if you were, you would be a horrible excuse for one. You're cold, callous, selfish and completely uncaring- four characteristics that are completely unwanted in the medical community. I feel terrible for everyone who comes into your pharmacy with their legit prescriptions.

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okay...haven't posted on here in a really long time mainly because I finally found a pharmacy to help me out and I've been going along just fine. However, I'm posting today for two reasons. 1) I stupidly went to a different pharmacy (Walgreens) because my usual Walgreens was low. My regular pharmacist said to have the pharmacist at any other store look up my profile and I should be fine. NO!! I went to a different Walgreens with a pharmacist that thought she was God and she said my prescriptions (the one I've been filling now steadily for 2-1/2 years at Walgreens) did not "qualify" under their guidelines and she was not comfortable filling it. Okay fine....she has a right to her opinion and to do what she wishes in her own store. I don't think it right, but everyone has what they consider their "ethics" so fine. HOWEVER, she put something into the Walgreens system that basically prohibits me from filling my script at ANY Walgreens ever again!!!! Are you kidding me??!! I spoke to my regular pharmacist about this and he said it's a new rule that Walgreens just put into place and once a pharmacist does that another cannot undo it. I think that's a bunch of crap. She doesn't know me...I'm not her patient and she hasn't been filling my meds for over a year. How can she make that call for everyone??? It doesn't make any sense. My pharmacist tells me the only way to fix it is to either change doctors (which we all know is a bad thing) or change medications (which again is not the best plan). I take oxy because it works for the pain AND allows me to still function rather than lying in bed in a stupor not being productive. If I could take Vicodin or some other drug that works AND allows me not to be stupid all day, I would...obviously much easier to come by. Anyway...that's that problem.
2) To the "pharmacist"....a) We're not in India!!! If you are, stay off this board...if you're not, then who cares what happens in India???? This is America and this is a problem here...we don't care about there. b) You are not God! You are not a doctor! If your "ethics" or laziness (not wanting to fill out paperwork or whatever) keeps you from wanting to fill narcotics, then so be it. But don't assume you know how anyone else feels...EVER. You don't. I will admit there are other drugs that work for my pain. However, again I will say it's all about quality of life. I would gladly take something else that is easier to come by and I wouldn't get looked at like a criminal or a drug addict. However, I would have partial pain relief and I would be laying in bed like a bum all day instead of up working like I should be doing. I suppose going on disability is a better think than working to support myself though huh??? You just might want to think before you say stupid stuff. I realize and agree that everyone does have their own opinion and as an American citizen you have a right to that and a right to voice it. However, you cannot go assuming everyone is like you and that everyone is either an addict or a dealer. We are not!!!! I'm just saying. You can have your opinion, but I really don't think this is the correct place to voice that...unless you want people ranting at you :)

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"pharmacist": to say all pain management clinic are illegitimate and every doctor working in one is basically a drug dealer, perhaps you should stop profiling and actually research each and every pain management clinic in the country. Guess what? I am a pain management patient who has no interest in taking prescription drugs and my doctor never offered one. In fact, he is extremely reluctant to prescribe anything stronger than vicodin to any of his patients. And this wouldn't happen in India?? Lol! You mean the country that ships millions of strong prescription drugs to other countries every year without so much as an online consult?? See any us online pharmacies shipping Xanax and 200mg tramadol anywhere? Nope. If you're so prejudiced against Americans, go work in an Indian pharmacy.

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what you fail to realize my friend is is the 1 that is trying to prescribed medication, is not interested in your well being he is interested in his wealth being it is all about the money in India we do not have this problem.

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By the way, a real pharmacist woul never say "you may think your pain is unbearable to the point you need these drugs, but it's not". Again, who are you to step in these patients' shoes and start diagnosing?? You are not a doctor; you need to get that into your head or change jobs. Your mentality has no business in the medical field. We are supposed to be empathetic and compassionate, not selfish, cruel and judgmental. Get over yourself and do everyone in your county a favor- retire early.

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For a pharmacist, you sure sound uneducated.... You sure you're not a pharmacy tech? Every pain patient I've spoken with go to pain management clinics to manage their pain with as little strong narcotics as possible, so uh....NO, they're not all "asking for" narcotics. A d you obviously have never had severe pain, seeing as you seem to think no one but people who have just had surgery a day prior need these drugs. Hopefully one day you'll learn how wrong you are. Hope it's not the hard way. What a compassionate "pharmacist" you are, thinking no one, not even cancer patients, need strong pain medication to live normal lives. This is why you're not a doctor. Leave the prescribing up to those who have been trained to do so.

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I have seen the quote unquote narcotic contracts that is the doctors draw up in there office. so yes when you ask to be treated with narcotic therapy, uh you are asking to be getting drugs now I understand that some of you think your pain is so much and so on bearable that you have to have this but that is simply not true you have to climb a dependency latter before you can just start off with extreme doses of medication and it can't be climbed within a 6 month period. but here in Florida pretty soon the government is going to mandate and controlled by their own privately owned dispensaries.
so your local pharmacist will not have to deal with a person with such a huge narcotic physical and mental dependency. I am along with pretty much every other pharmacist in the state with the exception of the mom and pop stores will not fill any medications for a pain management clinic.... now a surgeon yes.
you have to understand that we are being held liable for what happens to you and that is not fair. A very good friend of mine lost his license in Sanford Florida for simply filling prescriptions that is not right well I can tell you I'm not losing mine and that is why all of you cannot get your medication filled you are not going to a reputable doctor not a pain management clinic.
when our technicians look and a prescription they look for PMC usually printed on the prescription once we see that we kindly tell you we do not have that in stock or we do not carry that, that is a nice way of telling you that we will never fill that prescription I am only doing what the DEA in the Florida Board of Pharmacy has told us to do.

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TO BETTERDAYS..... i sent u my email address did u get it.. they might have removed it??? i do not know how to get in touch with u??? I do not which place u r speaking of.. delray and i95???? oMG

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@the 40 year old pharmacist: Im sorry, did you just gleefully (and cruelly) post the sentence "no more Medicare paying for your medications"?? As if that's a good thing? Who the hell do you think these medications were created FOR? You need to go back to one of the million pharmacy schools popping up every year if you don't know. And you need a reality check and to be knocked down off of your high horse if you think you think you've been educated adequately. Sorry to be rude, but you are obviously on an ego trip, bitter that you aren't as respected as doctors. It's clear by how big a pay cut pharmacists have taken and by how few jobs there are out there. You are a prime example of a pharmacist who does not deserve a job. There are thousands of CARING pharmacists out there looking for work who aren't on a power trip. I truly hope you lose your job and I say that because I believe you are a dangerous candidate to hold the position you do. You are not THE "local pharmacist", buddy. There are many more in your town, no doubt much more intelligent, and much less ignorant than you.

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