10/325 Quailiest Verses Watson Verses White Or Yellow (brand Name Norco) (Page 4)

Hello Hydrocodone world:

My experience is this. You can not beat Name Brand scored NORCO 10/325. However, my experience is Watson is a softer compound, & works faster. Now, the other generic NORCO 10/325 (36 01) scored other side. This is made by QUAILITEST: many people say they suck, because in fact, it is a harder compound to digest/desolve, therefore not getting a good feeling,but the slight slower release makes Quailiest (NORCO) actually kill the pain more so than Watson (GENERIC) 10/325. The watson have the edge, however the Qualitiest last longer & are so dang close, only a Dog may know the difference. Personally me, & all the 4 companies that make generic NORCO can stick it. Your/My Dr. is going to request the yellow dye, I do get allergic reactions minor,but enough to b**** about. So I will be getting a lot of paper work, and I will end up getting Yellow NORCO, as long as the Dr. request patient has allergic reactions, not to the dye, but rather various fillers, as well. And me & My g/f have Identical insurance plans for meds. And the G/f got the real deal NORCOS. My Dr respects me & I respect my Dr. And dr.'s know the difference between spinal issues & hop heads or some of us have both. LOL (JOKE).

Now the HOT tip - NORCO Now makes two Brand name NORCO 10/325 , some will be yellow & or white. Watson makes NORCO ( BRAND NAME) wich are yellow. Also Watson now makes the 1/325 NORCO it is white.

Bottom line (brand name 10/325) you will start to see in white & yellow, as we are now seeing, allergic reactions to the yellow color dye. Also 10/325 NORCO are usually yellow, again they are moving to white tablets, and are currently selling both colored (WATSON GENERIC) norcos. Same goes for Brand name NORCOS, Yellow & white.

They are taking the yellow dye out both Name brand & watson brand NORCOS. You may see yellow & or white in your Watson 10/325 also Brand name 10/325

Ask your Dr for a over ride due to alergic reactions, most insurances will cover , if the findings of the request are found to be true. But now they are making the same company, same drug, Brand name & generic & in both white & or yellow (watch out for (CVS pharmacies) they carry s*** loads of s***, that is totally the s*** of all s*** & works like s***. Request brand name to your Dr & ask nicely & all the above will not apply. Watson's are etched in most peoples mind, however the Quailitest & watson are just how fast or slow the absorbtion rate/time to get into the blood stream. If you really want this Norco in your blood stream like instantly? LOL Check in to a 28 day drug rehabb & ask this? what is the fastest way to get any drug into my blood stream? Than youll be safe for 28 days, if they let you out. (JOKE).

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A new study finds that rising placebo responses may play a part in the increasingly high failure rate for clinical trials of drugs designed to control chronic pain caused by nerve damage. Surprisingly, however, the analysis of clinical trials conducted since 1990 found that the increase in placebo responses occurred only in trials conducted wholly in the U.S.; trials conducted in Europe or Asia showed no changes in placebo responses over that period.

In a paper accepted for publication in the journal Pain, researchers at McGill University in Montreal analyzed the results of 84 clinical trials of drugs conducted around the world from 1990 to 2013. Over that period, the pain inhibition experienced by patients in the placebo group increased steadily, reaching an average 30% decrease in pain levels by 2013. Similar increases in placebo response have previously been observed in studies of clinical trials of antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs. Those studies, however, didn't pinpoint the U.S. as the source of the trend.

The authors examined reported features of the clinical trials to determine what factors might be responsible for the changes over time. They found that in the U.S., but not elsewhere, trials are becoming longer (from an average of four-weeks long in 1990 to 12 weeks in 2013) and larger (from an average of fewer than 50 patients in 1990 to an average of more than 700 patients in 2013).

"The data suggest that longer and larger trials are associated with bigger placebo responses," said Jeffrey Mogil, the E.P. Taylor Professor of Pain Studies at McGill and senior author of the new paper. "This, in turn, tends to result in the failure of those trials - since it makes it harder for pharmaceutical companies to prove that the drug being tested is more effective than treatment with a placebo."

"It remains to be determined why the United States is an outlier with respect to its clinical trials," added Alexander Tuttle, a doctoral student in psychology at McGill, and co-first author of the paper. He and his co-authors note, however, some potentially important differences between the U.S. and other countries. These include the existence of direct-to-consumer drug advertising in the U.S. (New Zealand is the only other country in the world that allows this), the greater spread of for-profit "contract research organizations" in the U.S., and perhaps greater exposure to the placebo concept in popular media in the U.S.

"The greater the improvement in patients treated with placebo in clinical trials, the more difficult it can be to demonstrate the beneficial effects of pain-relieving medications," said Robert H. Dworkin, Professor of Anesthesiology, Neurology, and Psychiatry at theUniversity of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry. Prof. Dworkin, who was not involved in the McGill study, said "This important study increases our understanding of these placebo-group responses, and thereby provides a basis for improving the design of clinical trials and accelerating the development of analgesic medications that can bring greater relief to patients suffering from chronic pain."

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Question; for anyone has anyone out there ever tried the McLintock, may be spelled wrong, but that one, brand of hydro 7.5/325?

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I'm looking for pain management in San Diego. Anyone??

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Has anyone had the hydrocodone generic
Amnal or something like that!? Once again some off the wall generic of my hydro, that a chain store pharmacy got in.

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To be honest I love Walgreen's Watson white hydro it works better than the yellow one that I believe to cause severe back pain the white one"s actually control my back pain but I must take 3 /4 times a day

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I live in Florida and cannot find the other ones anywhere so could someone please tell me which pharmacy has the yellow ones?

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I take 5/325 more often to try and get relief, same thing. Less effective. I was told by Dr. That FDA took out Tylenol in all pain meds across the board a couple years ago because of people overdosing and damaging their liver. Well........if that's true it's because there was no pain relief!! Something else changed sometime after that too. I also read that the formula changed to take out euphoric feeling to deter drug addicts. What they've essentially done is deprive probably a million people in chronic pain that really need relief of a better quality of life. Watson brand of Wellbutrin that I take for fibromyalgia also gave me terrible side effects when called into wrong pharmacy and received their brand. No. It's not all in our head. Everyone knew at the same time because we all started hurting. Something needs to be done but I don't know where to even start.

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It's not in people's minds.. I talked to a pharmacist that told me the truth and yeah the yellow are better. And this is coming from a pharmacist

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I have the opposite effect with the yellow narco made by PAR or Qualtest. I'm breaking out in a rash, having tachacardia, and it lasting maybe two hours on me. The white actavist or Watson 853 &-even the ones marked with IP 100 last longer and I have no problems..I was on Vicodin..all last yr and yrs before..worked great was named brand but my pharmacist stopped carrying them for me because he said he was losing $100/rx..my insurance pays very well..I may pay $2.65 but he was getting over $300 from my insurance company..I guess he didn't snap I get a run down in what they pay for and how much...but, back to white vs. Yellow...give me any brand of white and it works longer and better with out an allergic reaction bcuz of dye vs no dye...my Dr writes as Narco but my plan his with generic if no name brand..I can't switch pharmacy due to my Dr is out of town and the poedunk pharmacies won't fill from specialist of any kind from the 3rd largest city in the US even if it's a RA med. The pain drs here and the pharmacies have a nice little arrangement going...keep the outside on the outside..and in this 3rd largest city they say they take your insurance but when it comes to a pain med they want $225 & your first born, forget it..I'm lucky I have the one close to home to fill for me, but he does go to church with my brother lol..

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Hi Deb, I realize your post was quite some time ago, but has the brand name been quite effective for you? I just had a similar issue after having taken qualitest for years, but do not want to go through all the extra trouble and money if they're not really worth it. Thanks.

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So I'm having trouble too and trying to find out who actually manufractuers Name Brand...with the lack of pain relief my ability to function to read through all of this is difficult

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DO NOT ACCEPT THE MALLINCKRODT Brand, it is INFERIOR and NOT EFFECTIVE. I notice a huge difference between Mallinckrodt and Waston, Watson being a superior brand.

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I can't find WAtson yellows anymore. What choices are available?

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Going to have my Dr do a "DAW", I cannot believe there is a 20% delta, always on the downside i'm sure, allowed with generic meds, especially with Norco 10/325, where it would be closer to 7.5/325, this is not acceptable.

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This is a late post post to your comment but it very true. I was at my primary Doctor talking who I don't get my pain meds from. He told me since Prince death his office is going to stop giving pain meds to there patients for long term. So Prince may of had a problem the rest of us who need pain meds for our pain and take them for that are going to suffer.

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I seem to be in the minority here lol but I came on these pages to find out why the hydros are all of the sudden "whacking me out". This month I was given the yellow 7.5"s compared to the white 7.5 last month and these are kicking my butt. Are they making my pain better? No. Are they flying me higher than a kite? Yes. I'd rather have the white as I'm looking for pain relief and not a feel good drug.

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AMEN Ed!
I was in three auto accidents, all of our 8 children are grown, except two. I was pregnant during the second accident which disrupted 5 disk in my spine(2alreadymildly damaged prior). I refused meds during my pregnancy. I refused meds because I choose to breast feed. So, after 16 months 1&1/3 years I finally asked for help this little "Doctorling" because he wasn't nearly of age to be taken seriously. He wrote "drug seeking". I have no " history " of ANY kind, but he put that in my med. file and it followed me until I went to the neurologist that wanted to know if I believe in God. I said, "How can you tell?" He said, "Because, that's the ONLY possible reason you're able to walk!"

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You are not in the minority. I think they are now being changed to have that effect. Although I can't say that to me it is a feel good drug - more like a feel really bad plus no pain relief! But "whacking me out" is a good description. (mine are/were the 10's)

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Prince was on the patches from hell..I tried those as I was tired of taking pills. After two patches; know you change these out every three days, I was in rigors! My fiance came home from work and found me on the couch in a ball screaming! I told the anesthesiologist to take me off and put me back on Vicodin..I was so sick on Fentanyl besides the rigors. And it was a low dose. I think its time for you to find a pain management Dr that knows the diff between an anesthesia drug used as a pain med vs a drug like hydrocodone..good luck!!

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It's the pharmacy I have probs with ordering white norco, not the Dr. My insurance ok'd my use of Vicodin, but the pharmacist refuses to order it bcuz he says he lost $. My insurance pays well and I know how much they paid him. He's being a horses azz. The only reason I use him is, I've had so many of my pain pills stolen from pharmacies that I've gone to him, since he graduated with my brother and the rx count is always correct. Also, the pain management Dr's in this hick town have control over the all the other major non mom and pop pharmacies. No filling from Dr's out of town, that even goes for my brothers RA med!! Basically it's about the buck. Plus the Dr's in this area are anesthesiologist, want you to go thru shots, which I can't as told by another anesthesiologist yrs ago due to the place in my neck where I'm fubard. They only give #90 pills, no muscle relaxers, and with fibro, nerve damage, ya need a Damn good one. It's all about thier controlling the area and the $ they get coming into thier office..I've worked with these Dr's, so..Yea, I know them..and wouldn't take my dog to them. Most smart ppl in my area go to the third largest city in the US for thier medical needs, OB, GYN, dental, etc two hours away..so it's just not pain docs..I just need to move back home...less BULLS*** to deal with and laws aren't as crazy on this medication..Now there is a methadone list tho..sa la vè as the cajuns say ;p

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