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I found Subutex in my daughter's room with a needle. Do people really IV this? Why do people take it that dont need it?

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hey smarty pants. The naloxone in suboxone doesnt do anything when the pill is taken sublingually. it is like insulin. it needs to be injected, and then it will cause a withdrawal.

subutex is just pure buprenorphine without the 25% ratio of naloxone.

it DOES give you a rush if you shoot it. I know. Me and many people I know do it this way because of this. There is just no high afterwards. I prefer this method (while adhering to my daily prescribed dose) as I get all the benefits of suboxone (not getting sick and not craving harder opiates and not wasting money on them because I know they will be blocked by the buprenorphine sitting on my opiate receptors) and I also get a nice rush once a day.

True knowledge comes from information AND experience bobolón!

dimorphine (heroin) gives you a rush because you shoot it just like morphine. It is just stronger in the euphoric sense. both will give you a rush and then a high when taken intraveinously and both will just give you a high if taken orally

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Yes people do shoot this up. suboxone can kill u. it has narcane in it and can send you're body into immediately having witdraws. please be careful. i know several people whom died due to this

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I was on suboxone for 2 years but there were people at the clinic where I went that will probably never come off. The doctor left it up to Each person on when they wanted off. And everyone's body handles getting off of it differently. It took about 8 months till I felt normal again. Good luck.

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This is horrible advice. First of all one never boils subutex. Secondly moving from subutex to methadone is just- There's no reason anyone would do that. It's like getting on methadone because you have a problem with vicodin. You're trading something less addictive opiod for an incredibly addictive opiod. Methadone is also much harsher on your body. The danger with IV subutex is that it is NOT heated and so if she is using dirty equipment, she could put herself at risk for septicemia or even endocarditis. If she is already injecting the subutex, the risk for overdose is low since each dose is consistently the same. I have been an opiod addict (fentanyl, heroin, hydromorphone, oxymorphone) for many years and I used all of it IV. I've also been clean on methadone program for the last two. I know what I am talking about.

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break it up in pieces like u would cut a strip and use as needed. put under tounge and let dissolve.

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The needle is for heroine or other pills such as roxy's oxy's ect. She most likely has the suboxone pill for a rainy day when she can't get dosed up. I know, I did opioid pills for 3 years then moved to smokeing heroin off foil (chasing the dragon) and after all then injecting it into veins. I am now on suboxone and have been for the past 6 months. It has never made me withdrawal by taking it too soon. I have gotten high while on the suboxone it just takes way more drugs.i got my prescription for suboxone in November of 2013, so I get the film strips that dissolve under your tounge. They now have these film strips and not the pills because the pills can be broken down and used to get high. I really doubt your doughter is getting high off of the suboxone, like I said probably for a bad day when she can't get high and gets dope sick. Maybe take the needle but not the suboxone.

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I don't understand who or what some of these ppl are talking about... I've been in the dope game for almost 11yrs. I've been on just about every thing there is to keep from being ill.. I've do.e such s, subutex, and methadone ... let me explain, this is my experience with the two types of bupes..both of them have made me withdraw horribly when i took them way too soon after doing dope... methadone is the ONLY ONE THT WILL NOT PUT YOU INTO WITHDRAWL DIRECTLY AFTER DOPE. . .AND yes i have a huge feeling it has to do with tolerance because the first time i took a sub, it had been 14 hours and boy did i regret that... i thought. i was sick...but i probably wasn't used to feeling so "awake" and not sedated ... ... i really hate reading replays from ppl saying that subs could be taken a few hours after dope... u must not have ever taken a sub before.. or had a habit cuz that's the biggest pile of bulls*** i ever seen... take it from this junkie... its better safe than sorry...wait at least 24 hrs in between dope and subs... ... cuz that's the worst feeling ever. I know, I've done it to myself enough times because im impatient as f***..

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I hate to Burst your bubble, but its been proven that subs are far harder to detox off of that methadone and heroin..reason is because it blocks receptors, your body trust to. compensate for that and produce higher numbers of receptors, in the end this causes a longer and harder detox cuz there is more to detox from..the subs aren't meant to be long term at all because of this reason..but doctors make more money this way since they are harder to kick, good luck getting a doctor to be honest about this...cuz its most pokey his money maker...

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It shouldn't be taken close to taking an opiate or the effects of the opiate, say for example heroin will not have any effect. The sub is supposed to be used for opioid addicts but often people will IV them to feel high which is dangerous if you do not know how to completely do this right. If you take a sub and then try take heroin it won't have effect. If you are an addict and take heroin and then start to feel sick so you decide to take a sub then you can go into premeditated withdrawals. If u r not really that sick or too much into your withdrawals but since u feel weak or eyes are watering or some s***, and u decide to take the sub then be aware if u take it too soon then you will be experiencing withdrawals for the next 3-5 hours or so

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Subutex is a white circle pill that says 54
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it really does help i promise and it's way better than suboxone

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Quick question..

I accidentally heated my Subutex. It's cooled for a couple of days and truthfully, I need it, like now. Is it still safe to take?

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please help my brother did methdone at 6 in the morning i can start him on a subutex today my a dr. my friend says you can take it the same day but suboxone you half to wait 34 to 48 hours if he goes on the street again i think i will never see him again i am willing to pay for hes teatment.

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Yes they will know doctors now test SPECIFICALLY for both subutex is positive for buprenorphine suboxone is positive dpr buprenorphine/ naloxone. There is a difference and since subutex has a higher abuse rate it is now determined which you are using.

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Are you in los angeles?

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suboxone will make you withdrawl if you have any significant ammount of active opiate in your system at the time you take your dose. if how ever you try to do an opiate while you have active buprenorphine and or naloxone, then you will simply not feel the effects of the opiate. the reason is that the first situation has two chemicals battling for the same receptor site ( opiate and sub) but when the sub is in your system before the opiate, the receptors are blocked by the active chemical(s) in subutex/suboxone and you will not feel the "high" from your opiate

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How did you get clean? I'm trying so hard.

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Not really good for you

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I was switched to subutex. Will I feel anything using 2mg of tex after being prescribed three 8mg of suboxone for the last year? I never abused the suboxone always took it under the tounge as prescribed

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To wrongfully take this medication is just plain stupid

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Get subtex change your number and your crowed I'm doing the same its all mind over matter

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