T 194 Yellow Pill (Page 9) (Top voted first)
UpdatedI have a T 194 yellow pill that says it's a percocet 10mg, but when taking it, it made me feel super weird and my chest hurt. Is this a possible side effect?
Re: Poohsy (# 106)
np! I had thought she only tried her mom and pops pharmacy and not others. I guess I could call Walgreens but too busy atm. Might try later :)
Re: painnnn (# 107)
I finally called my dr about this & he said it was ok to switch pharmacies & to let him know I did so to update contract upon finding name brand no fillers Percocet. If I can’t find it I’ll find a compound pharmacy that customize meds to suit your system. . Thankyou so much for listening to my frustration which I see is all of ours. We are in this together. My heart goes out to all of you suffering as well. Lets hope we can make a difference to fix & turn this around.
Re: Fred (# 113)
Probably. They're mostly made out of colloidal silicon dioxide, croscarmellose sodium, crospovidone, pregelatinized starch, naloxone, and a hint of low grade oxycodone.
Re: joe (# 14)
It just seems much easier to change pharmacies find a pharmacy that carries the brand that you like and just tell your doctor's to change pharmacies that's simple to the fact
Leese7 (# 117) --
You should not have to suffer. There IS a huge problem w/ Camber generic & most others I’ve tried suddenly this year after years of being in Pain Mgmt this past w/ those with a dye in them as well (iodine derivative), & all the new fillers even the higher grade ENDO GENERIC who makes Camber. Camber is distributed by a company in India by co-owner Endo Pharma (ENDO makes name brand Percocet fyi, so weird!?!) I stopped Camber. I tried Endocet (generic) & so many other’s given to me all with same awful side effects as u all are having. My Dr obliged to make it medically necessary for me to get PERCOCET BRAND ONLY as hardly any fillers in comparison to all generics. Oddly, every pharmacy even private one’s cant seem to order the BRAND PERCOCET from their wholesaler’s!?! My private pharmacy (non-chain linked) is still trying to get it for me but in the meantime I switched to Rhode’s generic which is white & has no dye. So far in the last few days of taking it no nausea, headaches, itching, etc & tolerable. AMEN. Hope this helps everyone. Lets keep each other posted. In meantime keep speaking up & write to your medical professionals & your Gov’t officials. I do feel it’s time for a legal suit on our behalf. This opioid crisis to protect drug addicts & illegal use of what we GOOD PATIENTS’ the ORIGINAL Percocet was made for is slowly killing us.
Re: RAFibroBackPainPat (# 72)
I share much of what you struggle with, including the dependence issue. My scripts are for 20 days a month. I am not in PM. Oxycodone 10's, 120 for the 20 days, every four hours one pill. The downside is withdrawal each and every month. The upside is 10 days off the med allows for a bit of recovery, making the next 20 days of meds to be more effective than if I had no break from it. I accept it will be this way every month. I want to keep my primary care physician as the one to treat my pain, so this manner of prescribing keeps me from requiring more and more potency to be effective.
What is hugely disconcerting for me is what I find to be somewhat obsessive thoughts about getting my new script again. Seems to me to suggest addict behaviour. I do nothing illegal or against doctor orders to procure drugs in between, but those compulsive thoughts truly bother me. Am I an addict? I get pain relief, not high. A bit of a lift, but still, not HIGH. I count down the days before my refill. Yes, I want relief. I have trigeminal neuralgia, fibro, RA, so of course I want some comfort. I'll plan my trips and whatnot for when I will have meds, which is practical for me. I'm almost 60. Partying days way behind me, but still I feel these meds have changed me psychologically. Is that bad? Is that just what happens to a chronic pain patient? Not having had the years some here have had on oxy's, I just want some input on this. Is this normal?
Re: JMJ (# 125)
If you take 4 pills daily only instead of 1 every 4 hrs u will be just right for 30 days. 8am, noon, 4pm then 8pm. Go to sleep by midnight then a new day with same pattern dosage daily. This way no withdrawels for 10 days. 4 per day for 30 days (120/month) is a script you are blessed & fortunate to have. Hope this helps.
MeJane, Mason & Drgrandy, I truly appreciate your thoughtful replies to a post I made, most likely on the WRONG thread, lol. Probably a better place for my discussion.
Now to respond. Yes, Dr. I probably do KNOW and SHOULD run. Rereading my own post, I think you're right! But...I have been in unrelenting pain for 25 years without relief. I didn't WANT to go down the proverbial rabbit hole. Joint replacement, both knees did nothing for my knee pain and actually increased my knee pain. I utilized each and every script for therapy. I used to run 4-5 miles every other day, right up to 52 years old. Mechanically I am better off. My first was at 42, second at 54. I gut through so much pain, but being of the mind 'use it or lose it', I never gave up. Until a large stroke stole my coordination. Then thoracic outlet syndrome with an aneurysm. They took out 2 ribs and my right scalene muscle. 7 and a half hours on the table and 6 months of therapy. Serious Damage to my trigeminal nerve due to surgery.
Those are only a few of the issues that literally sucked the life out of me. Don't want to sound like my physical issues define me, they dont, but they do seriously impact my life. Being in the golden years, I just want to celebrate my kids and their kids. You'll certainly find many on this forum with more conditions, more surgeries, more pain, more test results, etc....my sympathies go out to them, but my goal is simply functionality. I have purchased a tens machine and utilize natural remedies as I find them. These issues are like trying to tame a gorilla. The gorilla is too big for me. So I do what I can to subdue it.
4x a day. Gonna do. Only because 6 is not necessary. Thank you. Made me reflect on what I need as opposed to what I want.
Mason, I appreciate your intelligent posts. I share your mistrust of the govt. We do need to be careful.
Thanks all for your kind response to my misplaced post. :)
Everyone stay away from Walgreens pharmacy they are the ones that got the cheap generic ones that cause pains in the chest and other side effects I suggest to go to the mall and pop pharmacies that are not popular because they are better quality medication
Re: JMJ (# 132)
May I ask you if you can take Ibuprofen? I myself take 4 doses of 10 mg Percocet a day due to my pain. I'm also prescribed 800 mg ibuprofen if need be an addition for the extra pain. Or you can buy the over the counter ibuprofen 200 mg and take the equivalent of 800 mg. I have noticed it helps a lot with inflammation and if I take it in between my dosages of pain medication it does help space them out a little bit better, as sometimes I am tempted due to the pain that I'm in to take them more than every 6 hours or to take one and a half of my dosage. I have been very open and honest with my doctors to let them know both situations and do not hide anything from them. The more open and honest you are with them the more likely they are to help you. Always keep that in mind.
Re: JMJ (# 140)
I'm sorry that you have so many problems and that you can't take Ibuprofen. I know all about looking like an abused woman because I bruise very easily myself, which is probably because of the ibuprofen itself LOL but I have to do something because the Percocet alone is not enough for the pain and at this point I'm not ready to increase my dosage or even asked them to do so. I refuse to admit that I have to do that at this point in my life. It frustrates me to know what my age is and to see that there are people who are a lot older than me that can get around better than me and also embarrasses me to the point that I don't want to be seen in public a lot of times. I wish there was a cure-all pill for us so that we would not be in all the pain and Agony that we are all in. Unfortunately for me my pain doctor told me not to even get out of bed before I take a pain pill. What makes me feel like crap most days is that I feel like I can't survive without them. So in turn, for a few days out of the month I will go without my pain medication just so that I can prove to myself that I can. It proves to me in my mind that I'm not addicted to it. You're very welcome for responding to you and I wish there was some more advice that I can give you if nothing more than just a piece of advice in the future possibly. I would love to stay in contact with you so I will watch this thread and make sure that I keep in contact with you if that's alright.
Re: Poohsy (# 141)
Poohsy, I agree, honesty when relating with my doctor (actually, my doctor retired, but this is a small office and i saw the PA as often as the doctor) always, is the best policy. When I speak, I do pars my words very carefully. My PA , as of now, believes me and after 13 years of same primary care team, she actually cares about me. I can tell just as I can tell when an acquaintance enjoys or merely tolerates me. But still, I'm careful. My last appointment, I seriously needed to address the issue of chronic pain. The use of oxycodone. During this conversation I flat out asked her if she believed my use of oxy was warranted and if she has any reluctance treating my chronic pain. I needed to KNOW if she had any plans to turn me over to PM. For my peace of mind. More and more are being referred to PM, and I have no interest in yet another doctor. Another specialist. She assured me that she will continue to treat me, though she will need an UA and an appointment every 3 months, not too much to ask. I was so nervous about that visit, and so stinkin relieved afterwards. To know I can tell her a certain brand such as the kind discussed in this thread and she will work with me, is a great consolation. Honestly, this should not be so nervewracking. But, that's the climate we are living in. You have to be prepared to have these meds taken away. Prepare the mind so you are not shocked and dazed. This Camber 194 is like taking your med away. Worse, because you get sick besides withdrawl. I am married to a Marine, who believes in being prepared. I don't want to be taken by surprise and have my world crash and burn. I wish I had a good plan in place, but I dont! :(
Poohsy, I will try to pop in and look around for you to say hi and find out how you're doing. God bless.
Re: Big red balloon (# 143)
Some hospitals have pharmacies that you can go to and tell them that certain brands have fillers that you react badly to and will work with you since there are no mom and pop shops.
Re: FibroFighter2 (# 6)
Your Right Fibro, not as effective. Didn't like them at all.
I posted a few weeks ago (#68) about my experience w/ the Camber "Percocets." It was not good. Just to update, I went for my 3-month nurse visit at my doctor's office yesterday, part of the contract w/ my doctor to prescribe a 30-day supply at a time. I was chatting w/ the receptionist/office manager on the way out & commented that (1) my pharmacy of choice ("R"), which was recently bought out by "W", had dispensed this Camber "generic brand" last month & how ineffective they've been, and that (2) if this refill wasn't effective I would be talking w/ the doctor about compounding something similar. She said, "You wouldn't believe how many patients have said the same thing the past couple of months, and the one thing in common in most cases is 'W'." Of course, "R" is now "W," but I've had a relationship w/ the two staff pharmacists at "R" for nearly 10 years. I know them by name & they me, even the two pharmacy techs. Those folks couldn't have been nicer over the years. Never have I felt "judged" by any of them for having an opiate script filled.
Flash forward to yesterday afternoon when I simply dropped off my script (that isn't due to be filled until Monday). I had already called & asked a couple weeks ago if they could order (and actually get) something besides Camber. The lead pharmacist said they'd received some Rhodes "generic brand" which, while it wasn't the most effective I've ever tried, beat the heck out of Camber which didn't seem to make a dent in the pain. So they confirmed yesterday they have the Rhodes & will fill it w/ that "brand" Monday. We shall see.
On the way out, after being told last month that "this" "R" location would remain & just be rebranded "W", long-faced workers were putting up big posters near the front of the store that said this location would close on 3-27. I marched back to the pharmacy & asked if this is really true! Yes, they said, and they don't even know where they're being transferred. The posters (and the pharmacist confirmed) all their scripts are being transferred to the 24-hour "W" up the street. I absolutely HATE that store! It's like a zoo all the time, and the staff there is SO rude!
I can't remember if I mentioned this before, but for a few months this past summer & fall, I was literally STUCK after being referred to a PM "specialist" back in June for the treatment of RSD that developed in my right hand/arm after a severe fracture & surgery to repair it. My PCP was uncomfortable prescribing while I was under the care of a surgeon, and I'm completely open & honest w/ ALL doctors concerning what I receive & who prescribes it. My PCP backed out of prescribing pain meds until the PM "specialist" released me... which he finally did in late November. (The surgeon was done after one week.)
This PM "specialist" seemed to be using me as a "science experiment" of sorts. He wanted to rx gabapentin or other types of drugs. I've had serotonin syndrome three times. I cannot take anything (SSRIs, gabapentin, tramadol) which greatly increases serotonin. So he prescribed about 1/3 of the dose of the regular short-acting pain med my PCP was giving for the "almost daily" pain (from several sources, but chronic, w/ the fractured arm & RSD on top of all that) & even convinced me to try something called "Butrans patch" (the lowest dose made). I tried it. I had to go to three different "W" pharmacies w/i a few miles of each other to actually find one that had it. NONE were willing to order it. Rather they just referred me to "the location up the street." After all, there's a "W" about every three blocks around here! Little did I know the stupid state (TN) "flagged" me for using more than 3 pharmacies. They were all "W" locations! Their records are all connected. I'm not trying to hide anything, but that's how the state of TN (and apparently many other states) now "think." IOW, they don't THINK! And all the Butrans patch did was break me out in a rash. It didn't help w/ pain at all. (My PCP told me, after hearing about that, that the PM "specialist" was trying to "force" me into withdrawals. Apparently Butrans does that if you're dependent? Well, it didn't work, if that was his intent. My PCP says HE knows I'm not dependent, and *I* know I'm not dependent, so WTH?
Anyway, "R" filled a script w/ Rhodes about 3 months ago, and the first month it was fairly effective. The next time, maybe 2, that they filled it w/ Rhodes, it didn't seem as effective. This isn't a tolerance issue. I've ALWAYS been HIGHLY tolerant to any type of opioid or sedative. They find it difficult to even knock me out for surgery or "procedures," much less simply "sedate" me. I can take doses that would knock many people cold & not realize I've received anything. That's apparently just some recessive gene b/c neither of my parents was like that. A tiny dose of anything would knock my mom cold! I've never abused any type of drug... never tried any type of street drug, including marijuana, and I don't drink. It just is what it is, and I have no explanation nor can I help it. When I told the PM "specialist" that last summer he commented I shouldn't say that b/c it just tells him "I'm abusing drugs." Uh, no. It's just telling the truth, and I do NOT abuse drugs. I actually have a pretty high tolerance to pain... undergone nerve blocks w/ nothing which amazed the doctor & nurses, but at least I was allowed to drive afterwards which I would not have been had they "sedated" me. Opioids do not make me "feel good" or "feel" anything. They either take the edge off pain or they don't. Period. I work full-time, 6-7 days a week, and on the bad days the medication just allows me to function & be productive.
I shall see how this next refill w/ Rhodes works. If it doesn't, and now w/ my friendly "R" store closing & my two pharmacists w/ whom I've had a relationship for the past 9-10 years are gone... I may be looking more seriously into having something compounded if my doctor is agreeable.
Re: JMJ (# 145)
Yes, even after my experience w/ "R" pharmacy the past 9-10 years, when I told one of the two pharmacists who's been there forever yesterday that I was getting no pain relief from the Camber "brand," he kind of shrugged & seemed baffled. He didn't say in so many words that *I* was the only person who has complained, but I'm sure I'm not. After all, "R" is now "W"!
Re: Bert (# 156)
Bert that sounds like the same thing we've all been going through unfortunately there's nothing you can do until you get your new script and go to another Pharmacy. my suggestion is to try and take maybe a Benadryl with them and see if that helps or at least calms it down just a little bit. I hope you get some relief. Good luck and remember when you go to get your new scripts to go somewhere else. I don't know where you live or if there's a CVS around but that's where I went. I hope this helps.
Re: Michelle (# 163)
Thanks. I know it's not "all in my head." And it's not all in yours either.
Tonight I received a phone call from an out-of-state area code & a number I didn't recognize. It was some woman asking for me by name. I'm always leery of these kinds of calls & asked who was calling. She replied she was calling on behalf of "W" to inform me that on 3-27 my prescriptions from "R" will be transferred to the 24-hour "W" up the street. I told her I was aware of this & how I hate "W" w/ the fire of a thousand suns for them closing down this "R" location which, until last week, everyone working there had been told would remain open, just rebranded. (I wasn't rude to her. I just stated my opinion. She hung up.) Last week they were putting up the posters announcing the store is closing on 3-27. The two full-time pharmacists w/ whom I've had a relationship for nearly 10 years still don't know where they'll end up. One is the pharmacy mgr at the "R". If she & the other pharmacist are "assimilated" into "W", particularly if they're sent up the street to the zoo that's known as the 24-hour "W", do you really think she'll still be a pharmacy mgr? She sounded very worried. She's been at the same store for 16 years.
On a note (related to this whole topic), they ordered & received the former generic "brand" of Percocet they filled my script with a couple of times before filling it w/ this worthless yellow T-194 junk a month earlier. It's not great, but at least it helps some.
I still intend to check w/ my doctor about having something compounded.
Re: painpt2 (# 164)
The t194s I notice you use the "W" sometimes and the "R" sometimes. Now the "W" could be Walmart but when you say "W" bought out "R" I think you are referring to Walgreens not to be confused with "W"almart. "W" did buy some "R"s but not all "R"s. Some "R" are not "W" yet but are starting to sell the worthless t194s that make most people sick and don't relieve pain. Sometimes the "R" and the "W" are confused by people with speech impediments. Like I threw a "W"ock at a "W"abbit but you can never change the "W" and "R" in that case. In that case the "R" will never become a "W". The first amendment allows you to say Walgreen's perks sucks or Rite Aid's perks suck. Now "W"almart's Mallinckrodt 10/325 perks beat out most of what's on the market. Now Mallinckrodt's Adderall generic sucks. Doctors want it taken off the market but Mallinckrodt filled a lawsuit. Even though the FDA knows it's no good they cant take it off the market till the lawsuit goes to court. By that time they can make $millions off a worthless drug. So I'm saying the FDA f...n sucks. They don't protect people till a lot of people die or suffer a lot from bad drugs.
Jen I don't think they had that in mind of giving your pills away you are missing the point you need to go somewhere else and post something worth Wild. Don't make a mockery out of this thread grow up
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